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			== Image Makeover ==
			So here's a fellow who prided in posing with red-necks and ex-KKK types and photographic evidence of that is all over the internet. And turns out he is half Jewish - that must hurt, you know where.

			Then he is accused by his ex-buddies that he routinely used N-word in his younger years; lo and behold - turns out since his mom is from Tunisia (in Africa); he is himself half African-American in literal sense of the word. That must hurt too - ouch!!!

			What happens next; please stay tuned. I propose a section int he article about the wierd symbolism of ] ( more than 37,000 references on Google).

			Amen! ] 14:17, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

	== Comments on Islam ==		== Comments on Islam ==

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So here's a fellow who prided in posing with red-necks and ex-KKK types and photographic evidence of that is all over the internet. And turns out he is half Jewish - that must hurt, you know where.

Then he is accused by his ex-buddies that he routinely used N-word in his younger years; lo and behold - turns out since his mom is from Tunisia (in Africa); he is himself half African-American in literal sense of the word. That must hurt too - ouch!!!

What happens next; please stay tuned. I propose a section int he article about the wierd symbolism of George Macaca Allen ( more than 37,000 references on Google).

Amen! George Macaca Allen 14:17, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Comments on Islam

Something should be added about Allen's support for James Dobson's claim that we are at war with American Muslims, an allegation Dobson made at the 2006 Values Voters Summit, where both were in attendance. http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/9/24/110949.shtml?s=ic (Anon) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.33.185.185 (talk • contribs) 16:05, 24 September 2006.

I don't think we can infer that at all from the link you've given us. First and foremost, the claim that Dobson is against American muslims is entirely unsupported. Also, we only have that Allen was attendance, not that he supported that specific statement.--Rosicrucian 00:10, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

The "N-Word" Controversy

How is it relevent to this page when 16 out of the 19 teammates in that story allege allen didn't use the n word? Do we put it in there when there's only 3 out of 19 alleging it (one of whom is a democrat donor) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by GoBolts (talk • contribs) 03:11, 25 September 2006 .

Because it's a story, reported on by a major news outlet, that could have major ramifications for the campaign. If we're going to be basing Misplaced Pages articles based on whether someone has disagreed about a historical event, then we should be deleting half of the political articles here. -Senori 03:52, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Salon's known for left-wing bias. This is just another hit job, and needs to be removed.--Bedford 03:55, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

3 out of 19 alleged it. The remaining 16 didn't all refute it. Salon explains this well - the allegation and refutations should be presented together. The story is relevant regardless because of both longstanding and recent allegations of racism. (Salon is as acceptable a source as any reputable online magazine, left-wing bias and all). --AStanhope 03:57, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I suppose we should remove anything by the NYT and any comments by a Democrat, too? The fact of the matter is that first, Salon is fairly reputable, and second, that it's an allegation made with a reasonable amount of basis behind it and with the knowledge of the Allen campaign. We don't remove the Swift Boat stuff from John Kerry's article because it was done by a right-wing group; it's a part of the campaign, and of the current events. -Senori 04:01, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

As a matter of housekeeping, can someone take the link out of the section heading. Thanks. 64.42.209.81 20:26, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Um, since there has been a rebuttal, shouldn't it be in there as well as the claim: Allen's response? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.185.18.207 (talk • contribs) .

Yes. Feel free to add something in. Just link to the reference in the text you add, please. --StuffOfInterest 22:01, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Soz, it's semiprotected. Can't do much myself. --198.185.18.207 22:07, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I've put in an unprotect request, so it will hopefully be opened back up soon. Would be much easier (especially in the long run) if you create an account. --StuffOfInterest 22:38, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I added a very short paragraph; it could certainly do with some work, but it's there for now. -Senori 22:42, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

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