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"Breitbart has made moves that signal a desire to shift away from its renegade roots and mature into a more established news outlet." http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/07/media/far-right-abandons-breitbart/index.html ] (]) 03:13, 9 June 2017 (UTC) | "Breitbart has made moves that signal a desire to shift away from its renegade roots and mature into a more established news outlet." http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/07/media/far-right-abandons-breitbart/index.html ] (]) 03:13, 9 June 2017 (UTC) | ||
:https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/is-breitbart-news-veering-away-from-the-farthest-far-right/2017/06/06/35f91160-4ad1-11e7-a186-60c031eab644_story.html?utm_term=.75efcb0a1b59 Here's a similar article from the Washington Post. ] (]) 00:30, 13 June 2017 (UTC) | |||
:No need for updating on this basis -- we can wait until something actually happens. ] (]) 07:50, 9 June 2017 (UTC) | :No need for updating on this basis -- we can wait until something actually happens. ] (]) 07:50, 9 June 2017 (UTC) | ||
:The story is that Breitbart (which is and has been a mainstream outlet for some time) is moving to a slightly more center-right position, and that the far-right reacted with predictable melodrama. I'm not seeing anything in there that's going to add any value to the article. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;">] ]</span> 13:55, 9 June 2017 (UTC) | :The story is that Breitbart (which is and has been a mainstream outlet for some time) is moving to a slightly more center-right position, and that the far-right reacted with predictable melodrama. I'm not seeing anything in there that's going to add any value to the article. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;">] ]</span> 13:55, 9 June 2017 (UTC) |
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How Should this Article Be Updated in Light of Recent Changes?
"Breitbart has made moves that signal a desire to shift away from its renegade roots and mature into a more established news outlet." http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/07/media/far-right-abandons-breitbart/index.html Técnico (talk) 03:13, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
- https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/is-breitbart-news-veering-away-from-the-farthest-far-right/2017/06/06/35f91160-4ad1-11e7-a186-60c031eab644_story.html?utm_term=.75efcb0a1b59 Here's a similar article from the Washington Post. Marquis de Faux (talk) 00:30, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
- No need for updating on this basis -- we can wait until something actually happens. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 07:50, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
- The story is that Breitbart (which is and has been a mainstream outlet for some time) is moving to a slightly more center-right position, and that the far-right reacted with predictable melodrama. I'm not seeing anything in there that's going to add any value to the article. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 13:55, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
- I don't think the source (or other related sources) even suggests that Breitbart is moving from far-right to center-right. It sounds like they're simply trying to move away from some of the more overtly race-related content that they started publishing after Bannon took over. (There's a recent PBS Frontline about this.) --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 18:45, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
I don't think the source (or other related sources) even suggests that Breitbart is moving from far-right to center-right.
That's why I qualified it with "slightly more". As in, if I walk ten feet North, I'm slightly more "in Canada" (I live in Florida). Maybe I should have said "slightly closer to". That would have been clearer. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 18:54, 9 June 2017 (UTC)- The article suggests that Breitbart is becoming or has already become right-leaning. The source says, "Its editors have talked about becoming the Trump era's paper of record .... And some new hires have come from more established right-leaning news outlets, such as The Wall Street Journal and Fox News." One correspondent seems to say that Breitbart is moving to the left of the Gateway Pundit and Drudge: "'They are leaving the island occupied by the Gateway Pundit and Drudge Report and a few other news sources,' Wintrich told CNN." Técnico (talk) 02:54, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
The article suggests that Breitbart is becoming or has already become right-leaning.
If you are suggesting that Breitbart is not right-wing, then you need to stop editing political articles on WP, because you are not competent to do so. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 17:34, 10 June 2017 (UTC)- I don't think someone who identifies himself as a "male feminist" should be calling out someone out on their ability to be neutral. Your bias is clearly visible.Thismightbezach (talk) 23:06, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
- I am suggesting, in light of recent changes ongoing at Breitbart, that no adjective at all be used to characterize Breitbart until after those changes have stabilized. Técnico (talk) 04:58, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
- I'd oppose that. Breitbart is verifiably far-right and will remain so until reliable sources expressly indicate otherwise. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 18:36, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
- Verifiably far-right to all your left-wing sources. Don't bother wasting your time, Técnico. The far-left editors on this page will never be convinced otherwise. They'll continue to slander Breitbart with scary adjectives like "far-right" for the foreseeable future.Thismightbezach (talk) 23:00, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
- There's nothing scary about "far-right." Lots of organizations are happy to be described as far-right. (Please stay constructive and avoid personalizing content disputes.) --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 23:27, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
- Verifiably far-right to all your left-wing sources. Don't bother wasting your time, Técnico. The far-left editors on this page will never be convinced otherwise. They'll continue to slander Breitbart with scary adjectives like "far-right" for the foreseeable future.Thismightbezach (talk) 23:00, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
- I'd oppose that. Breitbart is verifiably far-right and will remain so until reliable sources expressly indicate otherwise. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 18:36, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
- The article suggests that Breitbart is becoming or has already become right-leaning. The source says, "Its editors have talked about becoming the Trump era's paper of record .... And some new hires have come from more established right-leaning news outlets, such as The Wall Street Journal and Fox News." One correspondent seems to say that Breitbart is moving to the left of the Gateway Pundit and Drudge: "'They are leaving the island occupied by the Gateway Pundit and Drudge Report and a few other news sources,' Wintrich told CNN." Técnico (talk) 02:54, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
- I don't think the source (or other related sources) even suggests that Breitbart is moving from far-right to center-right. It sounds like they're simply trying to move away from some of the more overtly race-related content that they started publishing after Bannon took over. (There's a recent PBS Frontline about this.) --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 18:45, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
- @Thismightbezach: If you can't wrap your head around having a POV but not editing by it then you really have no business at this project. Also, making bad faith accusations of POV pushing is a violation of our policy. Given that you are coming off a series of escalating blocks for your editing in political areas, I strongly suggest you remain civil, focused on content and most importantly; helpful. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 23:56, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
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