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This is a talk page. Please respect the talk page guidelines, and remember to sign your posts by typing four tildes CrispyGlover (talk) 20:28, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

A Brigadoon editing pattern

I met CrispyGlover at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Murder of Georgios Tsibouktzakis , and am reposting here what I wrote there:

• A Brigadoon SPA? Due to shenanigans by 2 sockpuppets above, I looked at this unfamiliar editor (although there are unfamiliar keep voters here, most of the keep and almost all of the delete ivotes come from editors who regularly edit I/P.) CrispyGlover joined about a year ago with a familiarity with our terminology, aplomb, and random-appearing range of interests rare in a new editor. On his first day he made a series of smooth edits to the article on Allentown, PA, and other neutral topics, weighing in with the vocabulary of an experienced editor at a series of AfDs. He has since appeared about once a month, always with a similar pattern: a series of rapid edits on disparate topics and a range of AfDs. Could he be a sockpuppet of one of the 2 sockpuppets who weighed in above but were blocked during the course of this AfD? Sure. He could be a sockpuppet of anyone. I don't know how to bring him to book because I have no idea whose sockpuppet he is. What he does not appear to be is a "normal" user. Posting this here in case his editing pattern rings bells with another editor.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:58, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

I welcome any and all sockpuppet investigations. I started out editing as an anon IP years ago. When I discovered the deletion discussions, I realized it was time to register an account. I use the registered account mainly for deletion discussions, and sometimes I'm still logged in unintentionally when I make edits to articles. I expect an apology from E.M.Gregory (talk) for automatically assuming nefarious activities just because I don't agree with his point of view on one particular topic. That's bullshit. CrispyGlover (talk) 19:02, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

• I've been watching edits by unfamiliar editors on both sides at that AfD.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:07, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

• I see that you your are familiar with sockpuppeting, at:Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Samia Shahid there was a sockpupped who also edited ans was blocked.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:07, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

What's your point, that I'm the same user as one who was blocked? I'll tell you what - start the sockpuppet investigation. You'll find I have nothing to do with whatever user you think is connected to me, and when that happens, issue a public apology on this talk page and on the deletion talkpage where you started this. Otherwise, stop attempting to silence me with vague threats. Put up or shut up. CrispyGlover (talk) 19:11, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

doncram has invited you to smoke a peace pipe together! Smoking peace pipes promotes WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day happier. Spread the WikiLove by offering someone else a peace pipe, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend who just likes to smoke.

Spread the peace by adding {{subst:Peace pipe}} to someone's talk page! You can use a parameter to insert the name of the recipient and add your own text to the message with a second. Smoking this wiki-peace pipe does not affect your health.

I saw your posting at User talk:E.M.Gregory, and read the above, and visited one of the AFDs in which you participated (where i thought your comment seemed reasonable). Hey, you have to understand that editors do naturally evaluate others, maybe for both good and bad reasons, but it is very natural. And that it also is naturally difficult to come to very satisfactory judgments. There are lots of policies/guidelines about not attacking other editors and commenting only on content rather than editors, but in my opinion there is some hypocrisy involved in that preaching, because what really is true is that that there are subtle practices which allow experienced editors to comment about other editors. Less practiced editors get in trouble for commenting in ways only very slightly different.

In this case, editor E.M.Gregory's comment seems good for you...at least he is sharing directly to you...and I wouldn't read it as trying to shut you up. I happen to appreciate their perspective in AFD discussions and often agree with them. Here I think he expressed a reasonable concern, based on your editing patterns. He did not come to a final judgment like you suggest; he suggests possibility. I appreciate that you state "I use the registered account mainly for deletion discussions, and sometimes I'm still logged in unintentionally when I make edits to articles." Why not log in all the time? I encourage you to do so, as in general it will allow others to be come familiar and to drop their negative suspicions. It also gives advantages like enabling you to watch your contributions and built up your watchlist of articles you are interested.

By the way, I never use "cookies" the way you mentioned, and I don't recommend your using them if you mean it sarcastically (sarcasm really rarely works here), but i looked up "cookies" and found my way to Misplaced Pages:WikiLove essay, which includes "Wikilove templates" at bottom offering cookies, coffee, etc. Cheers, --doncram 21:00, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

No, I wasn't being sarcastic. I've learned more about Misplaced Pages today than any other single day in my life, by far. CrispyGlover (talk) 21:05, 1 May 2017 (UTC)