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September 29

Admitted deleter of wiki pages regarding New England

A fellow lover of the New England coast has deleted most of my additions to this page http://en.wikipedia.org/Chebeague_Island%2C_ME . Reasons given were lack of sources, though obscure data I created was left in, unsourced. Another was bad wording, but the whole entry was deleted instead of just grammatical correction.Data that was well known and sourced was deleted, though an important commentary on the spirit of the inhabitants.

I am confused about this "no non-sourced data" thing... my family has lived on this island for many years. Being an island, there are VERY few websites that verify the things I've added. We're talking about data from our personal experience here, such as wildlife & nature, the unique geography, etc. But the external references are either non-existent online, or written so small as "asides" so as to not be worth citing.

So the only way to have my data NOT deleted on this wiki by this guy is to build my own website first, say the same exact things I typed into wiki last night, then link to it as some official "source"? PS... the deleter in question admits in his profile that he deletes alot... might be time to tone him down, as the data I and likely others add to this subject are HARD to find sources for, if even possible.

It's in our heads. Once we die, it's gone. And that's why I came to wiki. --JINZONINGEN 73 05:11, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

WP:Verifiability, Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources and WP:NOT. The Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia first and formost, not a home for anecdotes and "common knowledge". There need to be credible sources behind anything added here, or else it can be removed at any editor's discretion (see the first link, that's the important one). -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 05:33, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, as I said. Other obscure data that likely only the islanders could verify was kept, no sources, while well documented info with sources, was. The deletion seems a bit nonsensical, or as he says in his profile, "fun".

Oh well, guess I'll have to scrape up some money so I can create my website, then be considered as a "reliable source" lol.

X D --JINZONINGEN 73 06:05, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Discuss it in the article's talk page, possibly? -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 06:11, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Even that idea won't hold. Your website is highly unlikely to be considered a reliable source. Perhaps you should scour for some books, newspaper articles or government sources. I would start by referencing those asides you mentioned though, something is better than nothing. Consumed Crustacean is absolutely right about info being removed at any editor's discretion. The burden of proof lies on you (as the person making the claim), not on the person deleting the info. Zunaid 16:13, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Can't believe my eyes: first hand info is not good enough? It's the best. 169.132.18.248 19:26, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

But it isn't verifiable. I can say that the Empire State Building is 6 feet tall, but that doesn't make it true. — Dark Shikari /_contribs 16:39, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

login doesn't hold

I would dearly love to become part of the Misplaced Pages community but my login doesn't hold. I read FAQs "Hey! Why was I automatically logged-out?" and "Log in problems"

I log in. Get success result. Then when I go to any other page I find I am NOT logged in. I work on a macbook. Checked the FAQ. I do have cookies enabled. Misplaced Pages cookies are not disabled. In fact wikipedia remembers my login info correctly. But yet the login does not hold through a change of page within wikipedia. Have tried another mac. The problem is the same there. Is there a bug in the site?

Would welcome suggestions.

ditworac 69.19.14.29 02:28, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

How strange. You may want to try clearing your cache, since you might be logged in but it showing an old cached version of you not being logged in....although, it seems more widespread than that. You sure the login is on Misplaced Pages and not some other Wiki? I can't imagine what else it might be... —Keakealani 04:34, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

• Have you tried the "Remember me" checkbox? - Mgm| 11:17, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestions. Emptied cache. 'Remember me' checked. Still asked to login on next page after getting message 'login successful'. I am stumped. I had hoped to provide some flash motion graphics for article on Random Walk. I could never find out whether they would be accepted because I could never get to upload a file. Whenever I got to Upload File page I was requested to login even though I had already just logged in 'successfully'. Guess I am barred from contributing due to uknown technical error.

Well, for the time being if you'd upload it to a free file-sharing site, and then place a link here, someone would gladly take care of that for you. We'd of course want any help to the wiki that we can get so if you're willing to put a little more effort into getting your content on here while someone figures out this problem, I'm sure we can go the extra step to get it on here too :). Chris M. 22:00, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

One possible solution to the problem may be to go via the alternative connection https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/Main_Page (the https is a workaround that sometimes helps in these situations). --ais523 16:18, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

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What does the above do? Thanks.100110100 06:30, 25 September 2006 (UTC) <pre><br clear=all /></pre> What does this do? Thanks.100110100 06:30, 25 September 2006 (UTC)"> ">

The "<br>" is HTML. It creates a line break in the text.

The "clear" is an atribute for moving down past floating images. If clear=left or right it will only move past images on the left or right side. When it is set to all, it will move past both left and right sided images. —Mitaphane _talk 07:39, 25 September 2006 (UTC)"> ">

Thanks. '...move past...'??????100110100 03:38, 2 October 2006 (UTC) What does that mean?100110100 03:38, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Question about where find info.

Good morning!

Do you have info. about www.commercehub.com?

Please let know and thank you for your help!

My E-mail: <e-mail removed (we don't reply by e-mail, we reply here>

As Misplaced Pages is not an indiscriminate collection of information, we unfortunetly do not have an article on every website or company in existance. However, if you really do want to find out more information on the site, you could always use either the Google or Yahoo search engines. You can also start a new article on it or request for its creation if it manages to pass Misplaced Pages's notability guidelines.--TBCΦtalk? 13:51, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

How best to improve Misplaced Pages

I've been trying to figure out how to best improve Misplaced Pages since I registered but I am coming up blank.
My problems are

• School takes up most of my time
• I don't have much background knowledge so I probably couldn't edit something like Economy of Armenia without spending a bunch of time learning about economies and Armenia
• Although I have access to the best local library (UCSC) I can't check out any books unless my mom comes with me (she is faculty and thus has the library card)

However I actually managed to find a bit of time (this entire weekend in fact) where I don't have much school related obligations so I can try to dedicate my time to Misplaced Pages

I can check out some books tonight but what is the best way to make a list of articles that I can check out books on and vastly improve? YoBub 15:54, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

There are various categories on Misplaced Pages that contain articles that can be improved; if you're interested in vastly improving articles, Category:Articles to be expanded will contain articles that need extra information; or look at Category:Stub categories, choose a sort of article you like to edit from the list, and try lengthening it from a stub to a full-length article. You may also want to look at Template:Opentasks for a short list of articles that need improvement, sorted by the sort of improvement needed. --ais523 16:04, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

You say you couldn't edit the Armenia article but that's not totally true. You don't need to know a thing about Armenia itself in order to correct stuff like grammar, spelling and style. Every day I edit articles where I know absolutely nothing of the article's subject but my English knowledge is good so I can correct what I mentioned above. Good Luck - Adrian Pingstone 17:10, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

The best way for me to know what to do is just to hang around. I like to read the articles, so in doing that, if I find a factual error, or grammatical, syntaxical, etc, I just fix it. If I know anything about the subject, it would also be easy for me to expand a stub, add references, graphics, and more. If you know a lot of trivia, or just know a lot about a certain field (say, science), then you can hang around the Misplaced Pages:Reference_desk to answer questions and participate in discussion. You can go to the community portal and check out the tasks that need doing if you can do those. — X (SUPERDESK|Help me improve)18:00, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

We can always use more help on the Wikification project. There's plenty of info and links to resources on the project page. Every little bit helps push back the 7000+ article backlog. As for other things to do, I'm a big fan of rolling the dice. JubalHarshaw 04:11, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

New page

NEED HELP. Recently the Levy family uncovered information about Abraham Levy in the family archives and in the Historical Archives of Mexico City. With that informatio, I am creating a page for Abraham Levy. In doing so I get a message about a template and I included the information and now it appears in red. Also I inserted an info box and a code for the picture still appears. Need help in eliminating or understanding the template aspect of setting up the page and how to eliminate the 200px code that appears in the info box. Also how do I get the name of Abraham Levy in a spot color box on the info box? ~~Otooledupree

Need advice about a possible Wikitroll

A user called Potomacfever has been stalking my edits on two articles over the past few months and, I believe, has a political agenda in his edits. The first article is The Hype about Hydrogen. I did not write this article, but the author of the book happens to be a friend of mine. When I first saw this article, it was not well written, and I tried to improve it. Also, I split the author's biographical information into a separate bio article and expanded that using information available on the internet. Today Potomacfever put the author's bio up for AfD. Potomacfever continues to make accusations about me, and any responses I give just prompt more discussion about issues that are not central to the articles. Indeed the talk pages of the articles are mostly devoted to arguments between Potomacfever and me (and a few others) about issues that have little to do with the article. I would be grateful any advice. Regards, -- Ssilvers 23:53, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

If you have any solid evidence that he is stalking/attacking you, feel free to report it to an admin. However, after going through his edits, from my point of view he doesn't seem to have made any attacks or stalked you per se (see WP:STALK and WP:ATTACK), though neither has he been very civil .--TBCΦtalk? 13:40, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

September 30

Reverse Table Of Contents

Is there a magic word to show the table of contents in reverse order? Or possibly some setting I could add to user .js file? Thanks. Sparkhead 19:57, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

As far as I know, this is not possible. Equendil Talk 21:42, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Can I make it a multicolumn box so it's wider and not so tall? Sparkhead 22:35, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

What's the case in question? We can suggest alternatives if we know what we're dealing with. ☢ Ҡi∊ff⌇↯ 03:52, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

It's not an issue at the moment, but in particular it's talk pages. If would be useful, if on talk pages, especially the longer ones, the TOC displayed in reverse order. Sparkhead 20:48, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

How do I enable cookies?

Please let me know in simple words so that I can registre.

I suggest downloading and installing either Opera or Mozilla Firefox. Equendil Talk 21:41, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

• It would help if you told us what you are currently using. I'm using IE6 and my editing and cookies are working fine. - Mgm| 09:41, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Main page search

I am a Misplaced Pages user and I would like to know how to make my page pop up directly when I type in my name on the search, rather than having to look it up in the index.. For example, when you type in "Snoop Dog" in the search, an article about Snoop Dog comes up, but my name, "Vstyle" won't even though I've created a page... What do I do?

You can type "User:Vstyle" in the search field, or you can click on your name on top of the screen while you're logged on if you want to access your user page. Equendil Talk 22:38, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

What about when someone who is not a user wants to find me? and they want to easily see my page, how can someone find me without having to search the index? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vstyle (talk • contribs) 01:07, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

If you Sign Your Posts, people can click on your name and go to your User Page. --After Midnight 01:34, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

This is an encyclopedia, become famous and someone will write an entry about you. Misplaced Pages is not the right place for self promotion. Equendil Talk 12:40, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Image of magazine cover

It says on the upload page that images of magazine covers can be uploaded only to articles about the magazine. What about to the page of a short-story author, who has published primarily in that magazine (and whose name is on the cover in the image)? PaulLev 23:35, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Under fair use, images of magazine covers can only be uploaded to articles about the magazine. In my opinion, uploading to the article about the author would not be fair use as you would be using an image copyrighted by the magazine on an article not about that magazine. However you would get a better expert opinion if you ask at the talk page of Misplaced Pages:Fair use 61.2.23.74 16:48, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I was thinking it over, and, given that the author's page prominently mentions the magazine - indeed, almost all of the author's stories are indicated as having been published in the magazine - a reasonable case could be made that the author's article is also an article about the magazine. So I put in the image for the time being - but also asked the question on the talk page of Misplaced Pages:Fair use, as you suggesged.PaulLev 17:10, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• I'd say that's more illustrative than informational, which wouldn't be allowed by fair use policy. You don't need an image to show where they published. - Mgm| 09:37, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Fast access to recently listed,new third-party articles

Is there a quick wiki-link to recently listed new third-party articles? Bardwell 00:58, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean by "third-party articles", but you can view recent changes here —Keakealani 01:03, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

And the newest pages are available at Special:Newpages. -- Rick Block (talk) 16:44, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Rick, Just what I wanted! (Thanks also to Keakealani.) Bardwell 00:18, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Icon

Yes, even established Wikipedians can have questions. What is that little person icon next to one's username in the upper-left corner of the page when logged in? --Gray Porpoise 01:48, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

I speculate it's just to help one realize that the links up there apply to you personally and your account, but I'm not sure... Maybe mine should be changed to a contemplative face now. Dar-Ape 02:03, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. It would be neat to be able to change the icon in your preferences, or have special icons for administrators, bureaucrats, and normal users. --Gray Porpoise 02:05, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

I think that it only appears in the Monobook skin. When I preview the other skins in prefs it's not there. --After Midnight 02:10, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Essjay's MonoMonobook gets rid of it also. —Daniel (‽) 20:25, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages e-mail address confirmation problems

Hello, In response to the link below, I only got the following message: Invalid confirmation code. The code may have expired. Do I have a problem in registering my account? Best regards, Rob Endert <email removed>

> De: wiki@wikimedia.org > A: Dutchguy > Objet: Misplaced Pages e-mail address confirmation > Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 06:37:45 GMT > Someone, probably you, from IP address 62.202.47.23, has registered the > account "Dutchguy" with this e-mail address on Misplaced Pages. > > To confirm that this account really does belong to you and activate > e-mail features on Misplaced Pages, please open this link in your browser: > > href=http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Confirmemail/49133c2b47eefda01a27d > b6f4687ffad>http:/ /en.wikipedia.org/Special:Confirmemail/49133c2b47eefd> a01a27db6f4687ffad > If this is *not* you, please do not follow the link. This confirmation code > will expire at 06:37, 8 October 2006.

If you request your password multiple times, only the most recent code confirmation email will be valid, probably for technological/security reasons. Not sure if that's your problem, though. —Keakealani 07:06, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Err, you shouldn't have used the "reply" button or whatever to look at the e-mail? Or are you using some text-based/CLI e-mail reader? The link was split across two lines by the happy triangles. Fixing that, I clicked on the link and apparently confirmed you. Hope that didn't just violate some sort of rule :O. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 07:10, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

wrong email address

I just created an account (Evalpat), but I wrote the e-mail address wrong, so I can't confirm it. The address I wrote was evalpat@***.com; I should have written epat@***.com. I hope there's some way to fix this.

Eric Patterson

Simply set a new email address in the Special:Preferences, and you should receive a new confirmation mail. Cheers, Tangotango 09:07, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

finance

what is swap agreement? discuss the various risk may arise from such agreements.

The Help desk is for asking questions about Misplaced Pages. Use the Misplaced Pages:Reference desk for knowledge questions. However, please note that you will not get help with your homework there. Cheers, Tangotango 11:59, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

being added to the Native American artist list,

I am a new member and want to listed as photographer under Native American Artist—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rezfoto (talk • contribs) .

Every user has a userpage (yours is here) where you can describe yourself including that information. You can also place yourself in the category Wikipedian photographers by adding to your userpage this code: ]. The category Native American artists is not a user category, but classifies articles in the encyclopedia article space which are about Native American artists. In order to be added to that category, you would have to have an article posted about yourself. However, most people are not notable enough to be the subject of an article. Please see WP:BIO for our inclusion guideline criteria for articles on people. Note also that it is generally a bad idea to write an article about yourself. Please see WP:AUTO for more on this prohibition. Hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit 13:44, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

how to find projects related managment studies with case study

Hi

How to find projects related managment studies with case study.

You will not find such projects on wikipedia as we are just an encyclopedia. Please try searching google or go to your school library 61.2.23.74 16:44, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Help

Hi, I have a question--What ranking do you have to have to delete a very contriversial and very degrading userpage? And how do you delete it compleatly? I am very busy but please let me know how on my talkpage--Seadog.M.S 15:45, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to not reply on your userpage but degrading userpages are not allowed on wikipedia. If its someone else's userpage, you may seek admin intervention at WP:ANI and request them to take action. 61.2.23.74 16:52, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Such pages can probably be speedy deleted based on the attack page clause. You can use the {{db|type your reason here}} tag to inform a administrator to delete it. - Mgm| 21:20, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

sections in tables.

Is it possible to make the first column in a table be a section?

Placing the section code so that the TOC for the article links to the line on the table where that code was placed.

shadzar|Talk|contribs 15:58, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

The "===" has to be at the start of the line (per above). This creates some vertical spacing issues. Depending on the context there are other techniques that might work just as well, but if you really want links from the automatically generated TOC I think this is your best bet. -- Rick Block (talk) 16:33, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

That didn't quite do it as you can see by my attempt in the List of Avatar the last Airbender Creatures arcticle. It does funy things to the edit link for the section. shadzar|Talk|contribs 20:54, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Question about Cairo

24.118.130.217 16:12, 1 October 2006 (UTC)natalie

Why is the city cairo not as important as it used to be??

You might want to ask this at Misplaced Pages:Reference_desk/Humanities, and you might want to provide some more context (for example, if it's a homework question what kind of class you're taking). -- Rick Block (talk) 16:33, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

DSP-1 disambiguation?

The DSP-1 page currently redirects to DSP (Nintendo).

DSP-1 is also the title of the world's first digital audio mixer, made by Neve in the 1980s.

The Institute of Broadcast Sound web site (www.ibs.org.uk) contains two Wiki sub-sites, one of which is the Audio Compendium. This includes an article describing the Neve DSP-1, which I have compiled from personal knowledge, documentation and interviews. There will be further articles dealing with the histories of other audio consoles and manufacturing companies.

My question is, would it be acceptable to insert a disambiguation page in Misplaced Pages with a link to the DSP-1 article in the IBS Wiki - and potentially to other future articles - or is it better Wiki practice to copy and paste my IBS article into Misplaced Pages?

It seems like a waste of web space to do so....

--GOMJohn 16:21, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

The other wiki is not related to wikipedia and the content on wikipedia needs to be released under a free license such as GFDL. Hence its better to write a new article on the topic if it adheres to the Misplaced Pages:Policies and guidelines. But copy pasting is not a good idea as it may be a copyright violation which is not allowed on wikipedia. Also make sure that the article is not just an advert. 61.2.23.74 16:39, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Is English compulsory?

Hi, while editing articles relating to Turkey recently, I noticed that many Turkish editors communicate in Turkish on the articles' and their own talk pages. This means other editors cannot understand what they are discussing. Are these wiki-communities common? Is it appropriate for me to ask them to speak english, or are they entitled to communicate in the way they want? Any guidelines relating to this (I can't find a specific wiki-law)? Thanks for the info. Yandman 16:36, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

It is considered good wiki etiquette to converse in english on the english wikipedia. You can ask them to converse in english especially if they are discussing an article so that others can participate in the discussion too 61.2.23.74 16:41, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

They are certainly entitled to use Turkish on their own talk pages; on article talk pages, common sense should apply. If two Turkish speakers are trying to resolve an issue that has arisen between them, I don't see why they shouldn't use Turkish, but clearly if they want their arguments and conclusions to be taken into account by other users they would be better off using English. Palmiro | Talk 22:10, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

User

Why can't you be a Misplaced Pages user when your not logged in to Misplaced Pages?

You can definitely be a user when not logged on. You can edit just like I am and you can read any article. However logging on gives you many advantages such as creating new articles, uploading images etc. 61.2.23.74 16:50, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Missing Contributions to Misplaced Pages

I have been contributing for months on a wikiepedia webpage for months with a few other users on Local media outlet personalities. Just today I came to check on it since I hadn't been notified of any activity on the subject only to find it missing. There is not even a deletion or edit log pertaining to the subject. It has been deleted/censored as if it'd never been there in the first place. I only get redirects to disambiguation pages. The topic was in line with the Wiki guidelines for posting and had been in use for months. It has now since disappeared. The links in my contributions page lead to disambiguation or not found pages. How do I revert back to when my page was not deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by User144233 (talk • contribs)

So, Special:Log doesn't show it at all? You still have some contributions in your contributions list, like one on Cubby Bryant. Are you sure you're not mistaken? Things don't just disappear on the Misplaced Pages. What's the article in question? -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 18:19, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

All my other contributions are untouched. It is a single article that is missing. "Bartel_DJ" or "Bartel DJ" which now no longer exists and I can not access the history log for it. User144233 18:56, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Contributions to deleted articles are removed from 'your contribiutions list'. The article DJ Bartel has indeed been deleted. See Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/DJ Bartel for a discussion on it. Garion96 (talk) 19:06, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Note

I accidently deleted several questions on this page earlier today, which was pointed out to me just now. I've added them back, please make sure to check them, starting with section "PLEASE READ". Sorry about that. Equendil Talk 19:02, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Google Links OK?

Is Google considered a valid source? In the Freddie Mercury article there was a link to an article in CNN which is no longer there www.CNN.com. However, I Google'd it, found it and replaced the now dead link with this: . It shows the CNN article in full. Is there a standard on this? Sparkhead 21:00, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Google itself is not a valid source, but a cache version of a now dead link like the one you described is perfectly fine as long as you provide the entire URL and don't just say source: "google.com" or "google cache version". - Mgm| 21:16, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Generally, google cache links should only be used when they provide a HTML version of a PDF or other non-HTML format document. And note that yahoo search also provides cached pages, and often has ones that don't show up on google. Archive.org links are better used for pages that have gone away, as google cache links vanish for missing pages after a time. If you have further questions, please ask. JesseW, the juggling janitor 21:22, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Thumbnails not working for this image

For some reason, I can't get thumbnails to work for this image: Image:Full_24bit_RGB_palette.png (4096x4096 file). My guess is that it is too small in size (about 80 kB), so the thumbnail is considered "unecessary"? Either way, the height of the thumbnails show up as -1, and the image used is the full sized image.

Does anyone know the reason and a workaround? ☢ Ҡi∊ff⌇↯ 21:43, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Well one workaround is you could manually resize the image with an image editor. Use that small image for the article and on the smaller image's page put a link to the full size version. It's not very elegant, but it will get the job done. —Mitaphane _talk 02:59, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

edit shows under IP address, not user name

A couple of minutes ago, I logged in and made an edit to a talk page: . The edit was recorded as having been made by an IP address - mine, I assume. When I then went to change the signature manually - without logging in, which didn't seem worthwhile as I was not planning to do any further editing - the edit was recorded with my username.

Why would this happen, and can it be fixed, as one of the benefits of logging in is meant to be that your IP address isn't recorded? If the edit is going to show as being made from an IP address, should you not be guaranteed to get the "not logged in" notice above the edit pane? Palmiro | Talk 21:54, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

This probably happened because you were logged out while editing. There could be a number of reasons for this such as having your cookies disabled or opening a new window. 61.2.23.73 03:19, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

travel

how many sets of locks are there between the Ottawa River and The Falls at Hogs Back?

I think you may want to ask this question at the Reference Desk. This Help Desk is specifically for questions about using Misplaced Pages. —Keakealani 22:52, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Toolbox issues

I wrote an article in english, and a parallel article is also featured in the spanish-language Misplaced Pages. How do I make the "In other languages" tab appear in the toolbox, so people can read both articles? Thankies in advance

--Rodrigo Cornejo 22:51, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Use a Misplaced Pages:Interlanguage link, of the form: ]; where the language code is the bit between the http:// and the wikipedia.org in the URL, and the title is the page title. Hope this helps. JesseW, the juggling janitor 23:01, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Would like to improve an article

There is an article on memory foam, and seeing as I've been in the furniture industry for 15 years, I consider myself very knowledgable on the subject. There are a few minor things that are missing from the article which I think need changed. How can I go about changing it myself or sending the appropriate information to the right person so they can edit it? It appearsthat it wason the cleanup list in January which is probably I can't go about changing it like a normal article.

Thank you matt

Your contributions would be most welcome, and you are particularly encouraged to edit articles that someone has tagged with a cleanup tag. To edit any article just click the tab marked "edit" at the top of the page and make your changes in the editbox. Feel free to remove the cleanup tag if you feel that the article no longer needs it. If you intend on making substantial changes, then consider leaving a note for other contributors on the discussion page for that article first (click the discussion tab to access it). --Kwekubo 00:19, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

October 2

maps

208.131.169.233 00:12, 2 October 2006 (UTC)why doesnt wikipedia have aps or diagrams. I need one right now an its getting fucking late and my project is due tomorrow. This is bullshit!

The Help Desk is an area to ask questions about using Misplaced Pages. If you need helping finding a specific map or diagram (which are actually quite prevalent across Misplaced Pages), try asking with a more polite tone at Misplaced Pages:Reference desk/Humanities. McMillin24 _contribs 00:15, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

• We do have maps and diagrams, but if you don't tell us what kind you're looking for, it's hard to help. Also, you probably should've started looking a little earlier to avoid this situation. - Mgm| 09:20, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Stubs

What exactly is the difference between a stub and a full article? Is it pretty much up to the writer to decide, or is their a minimum number of words for an article? Thanks S.dedalus 02:15, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

There is a great deal of overlap - but at least my definition of a stub is an article which doesn't cover the full scope that it could (and probably should). So, the number of words doesn't matter as much as the content and the article itself. Some articles just don't have a very broad basis of information, so a very short article might not be considered a stub. On the other hand, an article that covers a large subject (such as an entire country) needs to be quite fleshed out before I would consider it to be a fully-fledged article, even if it had more words than a smaller subject. But that's really just my opinion. —Keakealani 02:19, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

You might also find this helpful as a guidline. Generally, I consider a stub article to be at most a paragraph in length and not doing much more than giving a dictionary definition of what the subject. —Mitaphane _talk 03:06, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

• I would consider the thing Mitaphane described a substub, and I would nominate anything that isn't more than a dic def for deletion. I think a stub is a relatively short article that misses key information to be optimally useful. - Mgm| 09:19, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

__NOTOC__

What does the above do? Thanks.100110100 03:38, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

It removes the table of contents from the page it is written on. __TOC__ allows you to move the table of contents to a specific place in the article. MediaWiki automatically puts in a table of contents on pages with 4 or more sections, before the first section. Harryboyles 03:45, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Also, for more information, see Misplaced Pages:NOTOC#Table_of_contents. --MCB 05:10, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Technical problem

What's wrong with the search engine and login engine today? They keep failing. Even editing is a problem. When will it go back to normal? Frankie goh 05:56, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

We are having a technical problem at the moment. Hopefully, it will be alright in sometime. — Nearly Headless Nick 06:10, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

inserting a photo

I am creating a new article. I don't know how to get a photo of my subject from my documents to the create page site as I cannot do this with the usual email address. Is it copy and paste? I see that there is a toolbar option...Insert a Picture Gallery. How does that work? Thanks. Andrew

• You need to use the Upload file link in the menu to the left, but make sure you read the instructions on that page careful. A visit to Misplaced Pages:Image use policy and Misplaced Pages:Image copyright tags is also useful. The gallery button can only make galleries for already uploaded images, but use it sparsely. Articles rarely benefit from having entire galleries of images attached. - Mgm| 09:16, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Warning people

When you warn someone with one of the warning templates, are you supposed to sign the warning as well?

--Yaksha 08:25, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Signing warnings seems to be common practice. --ais523 08:32, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, you should always sign your messages, whether automated or not. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 12:13, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

how to move photo from wikipedia uploaded file to the subject (article) page

Hello again. I have successfully uploaded the photo I want to use for my article...it is on a wikipedia Image page. All fine and good, but how do I get it to the top of the page for which I want to creat a new article. I know I can't use email. I'm sure it is an easy process but this is unknown territory to me. Andrew

Put the image's name between double-square-brackets, like this: ]. It's common to float the image at the side of the article as well: see Help:Image for some examples of the way you can place images more precisely. By the way, when commenting on Talk pages and similarly-structured pages (like the Help Desk), please type ~~~~ at the end of your comment (your signature). (Don't place your signature on articles, only on discussion pages). --ais523 11:01, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

• I'm not sure if it points to the same place, but also see Misplaced Pages:Image tutorial. - Mgm| 11:12, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Question

Some days when I search on Misplaced Pages it is so slow and even sometimes IE can't show the page. What causes this--Seadog.M.S 12:11, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

This usually means that resources are overstretched. To ensure that Misplaced Pages can continue to operate as snappily as you've come to expect, please consider a donation to the Wikimedia Foundation. Thanks, Tangotango 12:15, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

HI There...

Hi there... my name is Sari, i am 14 years old and I'm from Indonesia... I'm Imoeng's sister Imoeng... My brother asked me whether I want to join Wiki... So I decided to try. But I have a problem... I have no idea how to make a new article... So I was just wondering maybe you guys can help me

Thank you very much!!

pleeeeaseeee answer my question.. thanks once again...VenderBlue SS 13:05, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi, please read our list of Very frequently asked questions. Thanks! - Tangotango 13:08, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Add brackets to every entry on list

Hi, I want to check a list to see if an entry has a corresponding wikipedia article. If I highlight one entry and use the ] on the wikimarkup box the entry is automatically between brackets. The list however is 34 pages. Is there a way to automatically put every entry between brackets? Garion96 (talk) 12:51, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Use a text editor with support for regular expressions. Search for ^(.*)$, and replace with ]. Make sure it's set to one-per-line mode. You may need to change the actual settings for your editor. Cheers, Tangotango 12:54, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

ADMISSION

Sir,I have been trying to know when you admit student and how to apply - i mean the next admission, which dates does it comes up,but met a brickwall as your website has no info on the amission requisites, processes and in what manner.

thanks Ezeonu Anthony

Hi, you've likely hit the wrong site. We're Misplaced Pages, a free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, so you're unlikely to find anything of relevance here. Please find the website you want using a search engine. Good luck! - Tangotango 13:07, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

using wikipedia articles in my website

I would like to know whether it is possible to use certain articles in my website and what is the procedure for requesting permision and how would I reference it on my website?

All text on Misplaced Pages is licensed under the GFDL license, which basically means you can use an article for whatever you want as long as you give full credit to the article's authors (a disclaimer saying that the text came from Misplaced Pages and a link to the article's history is generally considered sufficient), and you must include the full text of the GFDL license on your site (which can be found here). -- Ferkelparade π 14:29, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Untitled question from User:69.250.187.194

Who is checking to verify edits that users can make to articles? If an error is found, how quick is it removed?

The changes are checked by RC patrollers, and show up at Special:Recentchanges. Some changes can be corrected very quickly; for instance, see http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages&action=history (the Misplaced Pages article is watched by many users; watching articles is a second way in which vandalism and erroneous edits can be caught). There are also several bots (such as Tawkerbot2) which watch out for and reverse obvious vandalism (for instance, see Special:Contributions/Tawkerbot2 and click on the 'last' links over the left-hand-side of the screen). Also, anyone viewing the site (including you) can correct an error if they find it. --ais523 15:57, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism (band)

Vandalism (band) appears to have been nominated for deletion, although the reasons for this are not clear. The article seems to have been marked for deletion in a clumsy fashion, so no place for discussion regarding this nomination exists. Can the tag be removed? Tug201 16:23, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

The nomination seems to have been by a user who wasn't logged in, and therefore couldn't create a discussion page. They don't seem to have mentioned their reasoning anywhere else (I've checked Misplaced Pages:Articles for creation and their contribs around that time), and that IP also has vandalistic edits (but it may be dynamic/shared, so they may have been by different physical people); I think removing the AfD tag is the only practical option here, as there isn't any nomination reasoning. The alternative is to complete the listing yourself as a procedural nomination (nominate as normal, but then abstain in the nomination). --ais523 16:31, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

• Perhaps they submitted a reason to WP:AFC for creation? - Mgm| 17:58, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

How to request an article to be watched

Besides tagging an article (for references, wikify, cleanup etc.) and hoping for some editors to have a look-in, is there any other way to bring the community's attention to an article? I picked up an article on the band Aashiq al-Rasul on NP Patrol last week and cleaned it up as far as I could. My main concern is that the author may be a band member (see his talk page for the concerns I raised with him, to which he has not replied). I don't know anything about nasheed, to know if this band is significant in any way. I'd like someone more familiar with the topic to make a judgment call on whether this article is okay, or whether it is deletable vanity and bandcruft. Zunaid 16:32, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

There are two possibilities; if you're really doubtful, use the Articles for deletion process (instructions), or alternatively use some of the templates here (which will attract the attention of editors via categories). --ais523 16:45, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Hmmmm...I don't want to trample on the guy's first article by dragging it through AfD, and I have tagged it already....maybe a dispute tag will get more attention. Thanks! Zunaid 11:33, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Help Me - Kenya flag

I am trying to download the flag of Kenya from the site. When I click on the .svg file to open the larger image, it doesn't appear. I have downloaded other flag images this way and have no problems.

Thank you in advance.

One possibility is that your browser doesn't support .svg files (what format were the other flags in?). Other than that, I'm not sure; it seems no different from many of the other images. --ais523 16:48, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Help me - Get a new password with the same user name "Best Gamer"

Someone logged me out automatically and (I'm just a male person, not a female) when I was unable to remember my password and tried to submit a new password which it says E-Mail New Password, it denies me from sending a new password. Please, I definately need your help. And this history thing mistakenly put User:70.45.55.254 and I am not this user. This has got to be a mistake. Is there any solution? Best Gamer 2 October 2006

Your IP address is shown if you're not logged on. Please report the error message you get, as it's rather hard to help you not knowing why you're being denied a new password. Equendil Talk 20:27, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Pictures

Hi!!

How do I add a picture to an article?

First, login and click "Upload an Image" in the sidebar. Upload the image. Then add ] to the article.Wooty 18:35, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Also see Misplaced Pages:Picture tutorial. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:49, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Archive a Discussion

I was wondering how I could archive a discussion on an article's talk page? It's gotten rather long, and we discussed and agreed it should be archived. I just wasn't sure of how to technically do it. Thanks! --Bill.matthews 18:49, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Check out WP:Archive for that procedure. Cheers! Tony Fox (arf!) 18:52, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Perfect, thank you! --Bill.matthews 20:08, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

IP Of User?

I suspect that a user is creating new logins to make adverse comments and loading votes. Is there a way to find out a user's IP? Thanks. Americasroof 18:53, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Only a handful of administrators can do that, check Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser, however, please try to sort out the problems by other means first. Equendil Talk 20:24, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick response. It's unfortunate some folks will hide behind such actions. Americasroof 20:59, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

help!

how do i let people know that a few of the asp skill level templates are missin

i've only found this one {{User_asp-4}}

Honestly, I don't think this is important for the encyclopedia, you can use {{User asp-2}} though. Equendil Talk 20:21, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

how to find medical terms and their break downs

i was just wondering if you can find any break downs of medical terms on this site if so please get back to me. thanks!

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking, but I imagine if you look up the term you're confused about a definition will be present in the article.... Remember, though, Misplaced Pages is not for medical advice. Failing that, you may be able to try the Reference Desk; this Help Desk is specifically for questions about the use of Misplaced Pages. —Keakealani 20:41, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

You might want to check Portal:Medicine. Equendil Talk 21:17, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Tabs

Is there a way to use a tab or something to space lists, the lists on my user page are long and they would work better as a two or three column list.A mcmurray 20:34, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

You can make use of tables, see Help:Table. I formatted the list on your user page on two columns. You can change it to three if you want. Equendil Talk 21:14, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

October 3

Warnings on my User Page

Not sure where else to ask this, so forgive me. I add a link to the Derek Acorah page verifying a particular existing statement made there A user, Topov, has now added warning symbols to my page accusing me of inserting spam, even though the linked page is not commercial:

http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Paulmoloney

The user themselves has no user talk or identification page. They have repeated reversed information critical of Acorah. Who do I complain to about this illegitimate use of the warning system? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulmoloney (talk • contribs)

Please create new sections at the bottom of the page else they will most likely be missed. Adding external links is generally not considered good unless the link has matter that is very useful to the article and cannot otherwise be added to the article. If you were verifying a particular statement, do it by means of references. Topov seems to be a new editor. Just explain to him what you were trying to do -- Lost 15:17, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually, it turns out that Topov is a user who has been reverting all critical information on the Derek Acorah page. Now they have resorted to adding spurious warnings to the user pages of people who have added such critical information. They accused me of adding spam to the page, when the only thing I added was a reference to an external website backing up a particular statement. I have now reformatted all such external references (including those not by me) using the Misplaced Pages footnote system. The user Topov has refused to engage with any other editors either on the article's talk page or on their own personal talk page; a message I left for him/her there was deleted by them. Since I consider their warnings on my page to be false and done only to scare me into backing down, I have deleted them until such a time as they engage with other users in mature discussion. Can anyone tell me how I can escalate this situation if needs be?

P. - --Paul Moloney 11:00, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Protecting Pages

How do i semi protect pages. I Put up the template but others can still edit. I am trying to do this to the Jew article. Please let me know on my talk--Seadog 01:29, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Answered on Seadog's talk. NielsF 01:30, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Counting articles in a category

Is there a tool somewhere that will count all the articles in a category, including all subcategories? I'm trying to work out the size of Category:Lists but just counting some of the subcategories by hand is an enormous task. Confusing Manifestation 01:54, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

This is actually more difficult than you might think since categories don't necessarily form a tree (i.e. there may be cycles). There's a list of tools on the toolserver here. CatScan can be used to generate a list of articles to some "depth" from a given starting category (which is close to what you're looking for). -- Rick Block (talk) 02:08, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

can't find my contribution. How to move text up on page

Thanks for your help. I contributed an article yesterday but can't find it in wikipedia. Also I am wondering how I can move the text up so there is not so much space between the picture and print. How do I enter it for categories (i.e. flag, anglican, etc)? Fredericton 03:33, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

• Can you give us the names of the articles you're talking about? = Mgm| 04:37, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Display defect?

Since morning, after logging in, I do not find the top most line which shows my name, discussion, my watchlist etc. I closed the browser (IE6) again and again and started fresh but in vain only. Any solution? -- VMO 03:42, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm getting that too, it moves to the extreme left of the page when my cursor passes over the "my talk, my preferences" etc bar. It just seems to have started now... Bronzey 09:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

That sort of thing has been happening to me for ages. Some workarounds which sometimes work and sometimes don't:

• Press Ctrl-F5
• Visit a different Wikimedia wiki (like commons:) and then return to Misplaced Pages
• Log out (if you can't find the logout button use this link) and then log back in again

These solutions have been known to both solve and cause the problem in the past; yhe problem seems to be IE-specific. --ais523 09:29, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

I've tried all those things and nothing works. Would it help if I delete cookies? This has literally just started in the last hour or so, and it's never happened before. Bronzey 09:57, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

If I remember correctly, this is a known bug in IE. It happens to me on hi: There was talk sometime back of writing to microsoft. Dont know what finally happened though. -- Lost 10:00, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

To my great relief I just now found the missing top most bar when I clicked View in my IE6 and went to Text Size → Medium. In Larger or above the bar is no longer visible. − VMO 16:43, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Numerical Values for Alphabets

Dear Sir,

Can i get the Numerical values for the Alphabets A to Z?

Waiting for ur reply.

Cheers,

Somas.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean. If you're referring to quoted HTML characters like &#65;, try looking at ASCII; otherwise, you probably want to ask at the Reference Desk, which will answer factual questions about anything in the world (the Help Desk is only for questions about Misplaced Pages). --ais523 09:38, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

How to download Database of Wikimedia

Hello, How to download our wikimedia database.Please send me the links to (email removed to prevent spam)

Thank You, Shiva Rama Raju.

Try reading Misplaced Pages:Database download, which has the information that you need in relation to Misplaced Pages; if you're referring to your own wiki, you may want to check the MediaWiki website, or meta:Database dump, for the answer. --ais523 09:48, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

where is my article, etc?

I posted a question today...where is my article, how do I move the text up so it is closer to the picture at the top and how do I insert categories. You wanted to know the name of the article it is Compasrose the International Flag of the Angllican Communion. Fredericton 10:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Here's the link to the article: Compasrose Flag of the Anglican Communion. The categories need to be inserted at the bottom. For example if you want to insert the flag category, simply write ] at the bottom -- Lost 10:30, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

The reason the text is so far below is because the bottom half of the picture is white but very real. Equendil Talk 12:06, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

IS SEVIS FEE REFUNDSABLE

i had paid for the sevis fee through western union in kenya but never managed to get a visa, so is it possible to be refunded the money back and pay for the next sevis because am planning to school in america

You are asking at the wrong place. This help desk answers queries related to wikipedia only. But you could try the reference desk. They attempt to answer other questions -- Lost 10:32, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

How long before a contribution is posted?

Hi - I contributed an article and I can't seem to find it :-) After submitting, how long does it take for an article to become viewable? I understand that new items are reviewed for acceptable content, but is this done before it's posted, or is the article posted and then judged?

Also, is there any record in my own account that I have made a contribution? 'cause I can't seem to find anything...

L brophy 12:04, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

It becomes viewable immediately. What was the name of your article? Daniel.Bryant 12:18, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Your contribution record shows that this is the only edit you made with this username. If you had saved an article, it may have been deleted according to Misplaced Pages:Deletion policy -- Lost 12:32, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

If we're thinking about edits here, it may have been made while you weren't logged in. Therefore it will be inder your IP address - the only way to find this (depending on your ISP) is for you to make a logged out edit somewhere (just leave a message on here, or my talk page), signing it with four ~'s - and then click on the IP shown in the signature, and then you should be able to look at the IP contribs, which may include yours. Hope this helps! 81.159.71.84 20:32, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

java

just hoping you could help me find information about java. thanks

Try Java ? Equendil Talk 13:49, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Collyer Brothers page

Hello!

At the bottom of the article, there is a link to a book by Marcia Davenport - "My Brother's Keeper". Clicking there, however, takes you to some cartoon-program page. I've done little edits like fixing typos, and sometimes restoring pages after vandalism, but I really don't know how to re-direct a link.

Hopefully someone can fix this! (The book is a great one,and has stayed with me for forty years).

Thanks!

Juggins

I have now created a red link there (My Brother's Keeper (novel)). Please go ahead and create the article. You will need to be logged in to create a new article however. -- Lost 14:07, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

How to create an Infobox

I would please like to know how to create an infobox for Manchester is their anyone who can tell me how? King Konger, 15.:52, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

The easiest way is to copy an existing infobox and replace its contents. -- Lost 14:57, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

colleges and universities

I am trying to download a listing of all colleges and universities in the United States. Is there a way that I can do this using wikipedia?209.51.48.71 15:12, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

You can browse Category:Universities and colleges in the United States. -- Lost 15:21, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Coordinate help

{{coor title dm| | |N| | |W|type:city(8,104,179)}}

Can someone insert this information -- Latitude 39.98 & Longitude -76.10 -- into this template, and place it into Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania? I've been trying insuccessfully. Thanks! -- Zanimum 15:23, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Requesting an article

How to request an article?

Misplaced Pages:Requested articles. --ais523 17:13, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

How to download only golf course related pages

Hello,

I am designing a golf course web site.I am using wikimedia services for golf course details search items.Please any know the download database dump in this site http://download.wikimedia.org/ which link is used to download, under that all xml page links or all link pages need to download.If any one know these details please send me to <email removed>.

Thank You, Shiva Rama Raju.

This help desk is specifically for questions about how to use Misplaced Pages, not the Wikimedia software. I'm unsure as to exactly where you need to ask your question, but I can tell you with some confidence that here is probably not the place, sorry. —Keakealani 18:31, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

why is this doing this?

i am a unlogged user, (i don't feel like logging in), the thing at the top of the screen, link to the user's page, user talk page, user watchlist, contributions, etc. sometimes, i move my pointer up to it and it moves to the left side. why is that? --66.218.18.134 20:04, 3 October 2006 (UTC) (unlogged user)

When I'm not logged in, all I get is "Sign in/create account". I don't get the "my talk/my preferences/my watchlist...". --Kainaw 20:08, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

that's not what i mean. when i'm logged in it does that, rarely, but it does. --66.218.18.134 20:12, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

That's happened to me sometimes, too. Not sure why, though. -- TheGreatLlama 20:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

It seems to be a bug in internet explorer. See here. Garion96 (talk) 20:20, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Interesting... I get that sometimes. --Yancyfry jr 02:06, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

help template

Hi all. how does one read about the template which a user can add to their own talk page, to summon help when they have a question? I know that it is the template entitled help me, because i used this once. I just have no idea now how I inititally found it. Where is it described, documented, etc? thanks. --Sm8900 20:54, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

You're probably thinking of {{helpme}}. You can find out more at Template:Helpme. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 22:21, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Downloading Tomeraider file: cannot access page

I'm trying to download the latest Tomeraider dump but am getting a "page not found" when I click on the "download here" link on the page. What link should I use?

--Welmoed Sisson

Yep, you're right, the link to "Misplaced Pages in TomeRaider format" on TomeRaider does in fact seem to lead to nowhere. The page m:Data dumps#Where to go for help gives a couple options for obtaining help, though. Sorry I don't have an answer, but I hope that's of some use to you! ~Kylu (u|t) 22:20, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

referencing an article

My name is David C Saidoff. Would someone kindly instruct me in those steps involved in referencing an article?

<email removed>

If you mean adding references (cites) to articles, please check out Misplaced Pages:Citing sources, chock full of helpful information to article writers. If you're interested in citing Misplaced Pages in another work, however, you'll want Misplaced Pages:Citing Misplaced Pages instead. Thanks! ~Kylu (u|t) 22:12, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

I've removed your email to protect you from spam; Misplaced Pages is heavily published and making your email address public here is making it very public. —Keakealani 23:04, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

I want to know

Hi, I am in my final semester at uni and am doin a presentation on how to write business letters. I was wondering if i could get permission to put a link on my powerpoint to you website

No problem. Please see the above question where it shows how to cite Misplaced Pages, for your convenience. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 22:59, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Excel spreadsheet

Hi

How do I creat a link to an excel spreadsheet I have uploaded? Is that format supported?

thanks, Jockosaurus

The list of file types that can be uploaded is at Help:Images and other uploaded files, and it does not include .xls files (so, no, excel spreadsheets are not supported). Unless you renamed it while uploading, I don't think you should have been able to upload it. -- Rick Block (talk) 00:12, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Creating an article

Where would I go to ask for comments on whether a particular website would be notable enough to have an article about it. I realize that users shouldn't create articles about their own site, or about themselves, ect. for the natural inability to be unbiased, so I'm looking for a place where I can get a lot of comments on it. Chris M. 00:33, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

You could create an article in your userspace (UserMason11987\Articletest) or read WP:WEB for the guidelines. Wooty 01:19, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

• Try the start now link at WP:AFC or perhaps Misplaced Pages:Requests for feedback. - Mgm| 09:03, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Naval Officers

I would like to add my brother Captain Robert E. Claytor (Lexington, VA) to the list of Naval Officers and cannot do so. Can you do this for me? Do you need some verification of this fact? He was, in the mid-late 80's the Commander of the Naval Air Base in Guam.... Rita (Claytor) Royce

I'm not sure why you can't edit the page - mind being a bit more specific? Yes, verification is always a good thing - it would be best to cite a published source either on the internet or elsewhere that argues its notability. Generally, we don't do edits for other people, except in the case of articles to be created, so I'm not sure if that's plausible. —Keakealani 04:40, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Youtube

Are links to youtube allowed? 68.149.157.248 01:53, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Sometimes. The relevant guidelines are at Misplaced Pages:External links. -- zzuuzz 02:02, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

something else

I have read the current Misplaced Pages entry on the NYC Astor Place Riots. It has one citation (NY Tribune). I like some parts of the article (very vivid details). On the other hand it does tend to ignore some details (the Macready-Forrest dispute) and at least according to sources I cite, has some of the details wrong. I see my suggestions were ignored. Fair enough, but it does seem that something, if only the citations which you did ask for, might be included. Also the setting for the discussion. The Astor Place Riot was not some theatrical business, but a mark of the turbulent, immigrant, class-conscious moment which was to erupt more spectacularly in the Civil War Draft Riot.

I append my suggestion: The Astor Place Theatre (opened 1847) was a focal point of Anglophile New York society. Patrons were required to wear kid gloves. There existed some rivalry between the English actor, William Macready, and the American actor, Edwin Forrest. Forrest had been hissed by an audience in London while playing Hamlet. He, in turn, hissed Macready at a performance in Edinburgh. On May 7, 1849, the aristocratic Macready was to appear at the Astor Place in Macbeth. The more coarse, populist Forrest was opening in a different play further downtown that same night. Two Americans set about to create a disturbance on the opening night. Isaiah Rynders, who was involved with the Five Points gangs (largely Irish, and thus, anti-English), and E. Judson , who wrote cheap novels under the name Ned Buntline, spread the message that this was an occasion to assert American pride. Although the police were armed and ready, backed by the militia, the crowd grew. Macready’s performance was disrupted, but did finish. By the end, the building was being attacked by a stone-throwing mob of 10,000 workingmen and gang members. The soldiers fired on the mob, killing 22. A general source for this is Edward Robb Ellis, The Epic of New York City (1966). A specific source is Richard Moody, The Astor Place Riot (1958). The riot is referred to as illustrative of the violence of New York in the period of Irish immigration, and a prefiguring of the Civil War Draft Riots of 1863 (see Binder and Reimers, All the Nations Under Heaven (1995)).

I think you might have the wrong place. This Help Desk is to answer questions about the use of Misplaced Pages. If you want to change an article, you are welcome to...anyone can edit. Be bold and make the change. If you want to generate consensus first, you can post on the article's Talk page. good luck! —Keakealani 04:37, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

UTC Template

On my page, I want to dipslay the time in my time zone (MDT). And I put the right template (and it shows 01:41). It shows kind of what I want, except how do I make it show in a twenty-four hour format (or for it to say AM or PM if the 24-hour format isn't possible)? Thanks — •The RSJ• 02:40, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

template:utc generates a 24-hour format. MDT is -6, not +6 if that's your issue. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:47, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

• I'm probably missing something but 15:02 is already in a 24-hour format. - Mgm| 09:05, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

  The difference between -6 and +6 is 12 hours. At 02:04 UTC (the time of the comment) {{utc|6}} displayed 08:04 which is what time it was in Bangladesh and Kazakhstan, on the exact opposite side of the world from MDT, where it was 20:04 (i.e. {{utc|-6}}). -- Rick Block (talk) 13:05, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

• Oh, whoops, I did do +6 instead of -6... testing it... 13:41, k it works... thanks everyone! Cheers — •The RSJ• 22:18, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

wikipedia database

i'd like to browse wikipedia offline.. can i download wikipedia database? (i familiar with mediawiki, i just need the database :)

Misplaced Pages:Database download has the information you need, I suppose. tiZom_(2¢) 05:14, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Citing video...(and using potentially copyrighted video)

Hi there. Two questions...one, how do you cite a video clip using the "cite web" template? I am wanting to do this because there is citable video media related to an article I want to edit. Two, am I legally allowed to cite it if it is on YouTube? I want to edit the article on the Immaculate Reception to reference a video clip of the play that was originally created by NBC Sports (which, for an article like this, is EXTREMELY necessary...plus it helps source a fact listed at the end of the article) and I'm somewhat unclear about whether using footage from there is a violation of copyright. I know a YouTube question was brought up a few questions ago, but I couldn't really tell from those guidelines whether this sort of video was allowed or not...even if it is, I still wouldn't mind knowing how to properly cite the darn thing.  :) Thanks in advance. -- transaspie 05:41, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

{{cite web}} on a video looks something like this:

{{cite web|url=http://en.wikipedia.org|title=(its title)|
accessdate=2006-10-04|author=(author)|format=ogg (or some other format)|
publisher=(publisher)}}

which produces (author). "(its title)" (ogg (or some other format)). (publisher). Retrieved 2006-10-04. {{cite web}}: |author= has generic name (help). The 'format' field is the important one when citing a video, because it indicates it as a video. For information about which sources are reliable, see WP:RS. --ais523 08:30, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

• There's also a {{cite video}} template. Citing YouTube films can be okay as long as they don't clearly break copyright. If the video is available on the NBC Sports website, that one would be preferred, but seeing as they probably aren't trying to make money of it, the video would disappear if it wasn't on YouTube. Especially in cases were videos are otherwise impossible to track down, YouTube is a acceptable alternative. - Mgm| 09:09, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

external diff and edit

In your preferences, you have the option of checking "external edit" and "external diff". I tried this once and as a result couldn't edit pages any longer (my brower kept wanting to download the index.php file instead of process it as it normally would) so I had to revert it. I assume there are offline editing tools for Misplaced Pages which would use this feature. I have browsed around a bit without much luck. Can someone please expand on what the "external" options are for and perhaps recommend a few good editing tools ? Zunaid 10:04, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

There's a page about this on Meta at m:Help:External editors. It seems pretty complicated to set up, though, and doesn't have any recommendations about what editors to use. m:Help talk:External editors may be more useful. --ais523 10:08, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Good grief! Almost seems more trouble than its worth. I suppose in the long run it pays back in terms of having MUCH quicker previews of your edits and saving bandwidth. They should seriously get around to writing a Firefox extension or Windows installer/Linux package for it. Thanks for the help! Zunaid 10:26, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Image editing

Hi guys how are you? Just a short question. Can I edit the existing images on Misplaced Pages to make a new image? It is like combining some images into one. Probably I will need it for an Indonesian-related article. Cheers -- Imoeng 13:15, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

What you can do is to download an image (via its image-description page; click on the image), edit it, and then upload it again; you can either upload it as a new image or overwrite an old one if it's an improved version. Be careful about licensing; it's simplest to use images which all have the same free licence to create the edited version, and upload the new image under the same licence, mentioning the original sources (using tags like {{GFDL-retouched}}; see Misplaced Pages:Image copyright tags). --ais523 13:26, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! Imoeng 13:30, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Font size...

Hi wikipedia team.....can you please help me by telling how i can increase the font size in the wikipedia main page?? I guess this question is a bit funny but i am unable to increase the size and due to the small font size iam unable to acces to the information wikipedia is providing...so plz help me. Thankyou.

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This is probably due to the browser you are using. On Internet Explorer, go through View and Text Size on the menus to correct it. --ais523 14:31, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

In Mozilla Firefox, hit Ctrl-+. — Dark Shikari /_contribs 16:42, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

how to become an administrater

How do I become an administrater?

In order to become an administrator, you will need to create a username, and then go through a process in which community consensus is gathered to determine whether or not you are trusted to become an administrator. Some sample standards used by the community for this are in a list at Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Standards; it is extremely unlikely that you will become an administrator unless you have at least 2 months experience and 1500 constructive edits with the same username. You will also probably need to demonstrate knowledge of Misplaced Pages policies and not offend too many people, as well as showing a need for administrator priviliges. --ais523 14:44, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Unable to access several pages

I believe my ISP is encountering connectivity problems to one (or possibly more) Misplaced Pages servers, here's a list of pages that I'm unable to access:

• Ulm Campaign
• David Gemmell
• Fantasy writer
• Emmanuelle Vaugier

Can any admin help me out by pointing out what servers these pages reside on? I can view the pages through a roundabout process (such as adding ?action=purge to the back of the URL).

--DeAceShooter 14:54, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

How to Create a User Box

How can i creat user boxes, and where can i find a list of current user boxes and how can i creat a info box. thanks.

The information you need is at Misplaced Pages:Userboxes. --ais523 15:24, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Is it database download of wikimedia database necessary

Hello,

I am designing one site in that i am using wikimedia data displayed results in my web site.Is it database downloading is necessary using.If it is complesory how to display the updates on wikimedia results with our web site.Please any one know this Please send me <email removed>

Thank You, Shiva Rama Raju.

How do you apply to study from another country? Yvonne Mutua, Nairobi Kenya

AUSTER aircraft

I have several photos of Canadian war-time Mark V AUSTER aircraft operating over England and the English Channel that I believe should go into the Misplaced Pages 'AUSTER' page, as the Lycoming HO engine types (and subsequent aircraft profiles) are completely different from the post-war AUSTER gipsy-major-equipped aircraft listed on Misplaced Pages. How can I e-mail these photos to you? All info is verifiable.

Provided those images are not under copyright, you can upload them on Misplaced Pages and add them to articles, anyone can be an editor here. (See WP:IMAGES for information) Equendil Talk 20:08, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

For sale by owner

I posted my home for sale online and I have asked them to take it off after it was sold. But they won't. It says in their agreement that it follows the act on your web site. I have had to chang my phone number because they will not take it off of their site. Please help me get it taken off. My house sold 8/1/2006 and they won't take it off.As of today there is around 3800 or more hits on it. Rita Goodwin

We are Misplaced Pages, a 💕. Please find the correct website on which to post your query. Thanks, Tangotango 17:59, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Procedure Codes as opposed to Revenue Codes

I have been tasked with the job of creating a cross reference between Procedure Codes and Revenue Codes. What I am looking for is really very simple. A downloadable list of currently active Procedure Codes with descriptions that I can look at and know that it is nothing but Procedure Codes. Also a downloadable list of Revenue Codes that I know are nothing but Revenue Codes with descriptions. These two I could then cross reference in order to build a cross reference that would show for this Revenue Code you match this Procedure Code. If anyone can respond to this my email address is .

thanks

Unfortunately, I don't believe we are able to assist you. This is an encyclopedia, and does not provide software or databases for personal or professional projects. --MCB 21:27, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Thumbnail generation error

I'm not being able to get thumbnails for Image:Gyroscope.gif. The server returns:

Thumbnail generation error
Error creating thumbnail: convert: Corrupt image `/mnt/upload3/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Gyroscope.gif'.
convert: missing an image filename `/mnt/upload3/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Gyroscope.gif/300px-Gyroscope.gif'.
srv##

This happened with all other animations I've recently uploaded, but after a few refreshs the servers did generate a thumbnail, so I find it hard to believe the image is corrupt. They seem to work fine, and in fact, the file in the server is bit-to-bit identical to the one I have in here. But for some reason, I can't get the thumbnails to work at all with this image. Anyone knows if there's a problem going on with the servers, or what should I do about it?

The animation is large (1.4 MB), so thumbnails are very important in order to include the image in article without abusive file sizes. Thanks for your help. ☢ Ҡi∊ff⌇↯ 18:36, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

(if the following thumbnails work, you may delete them from this page and ignore the question)

Thumbnails here don't show anything for me either. I've seen a similar problem once, but it was just *one* thumbnail of a picture that wasn't properly generated (file had the header but no picture data), other sizes worked, and so did uploading the file with a different name. Most likely a random error. This however, seems to be a little more serious. I don't think anyone here will be able to provide answers, let alone fix the problem. This is something that should probably be brought up to attention of the wikimedia team. Maybe a bug report here : http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ Equendil Talk 19:13, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

When you did get that error message exactly by the way ? Equendil Talk 19:14, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Never mind my question, I tried to access the thumbnails on the server directly and got the error. Equendil Talk 19:16, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

I'll upload again under a different name. Hopefully it'll fix the problem. ☢ Ҡi∊ff⌇↯ 20:06, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Nope, same thing. See commons:Image:Gyroscope_wheel_animation.gif... Maybe it's because of the size of the animation? (almost 200 frames, 480x360?) :/ ☢ Ҡi∊ff⌇↯ 20:13, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Using a possible copyrighted picture from within Misplaced Pages.

There is a picture within Misplaced Pages (google: Posthuman_Future and click on images), that I would like to know if a copyright exists on. I work for a Non-profit organization and wish to incorporate this picture within a program for an upcoming event, but do not wish to engage in any copyright infringement by using.

Please e-mail a response to: .

Thank you for your time and attention to this query.

L. Rhodes

For information, Image:Posthuman Future.jpg is the picture being refered to. Equendil Talk 20:04, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

The image referenced is copyrighted and not under a license permitting it to be freely re-used. It appears on Misplaced Pages only under fair use criteria. Therefore, you will need to contact the image's owner, via the web site listed in the answer above by Equendil, in order to obtain permission. Permission cannot be granted by Misplaced Pages. --MCB 21:34, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

getting new password

It appears that this template ({{Help me}}) is being used somewhere other than a talk page. Please remove this instance of the template. This template is meant for use on talk pages. Your user talk page can be found here. If you added this template, please remove this template and re-add it on your user talk page. If you did not add this template, please remove it from this page.

My original user name was "engsfra" My password didnt take and i could not get a new one for that account as i did not have my email entered.

 i was forced to create a new name "healthprof" so i could get in. How do i get the computer to send

me a password for "engsfra" which i prefer to keep. i really dont want two accounts. Please answer on "healthprof" talk page. Healthprof 19:37, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Fair use justification

What do I have to do to prove Image:Headshot America Ferrera.jpg is fully and wholeheartedly fair use?

The image is from a folder on IMDb that can only contain publicity images for actors. It can not contain commerical photos, such as red carpet pics, which have a seperate folder.

To prove that this was America's official image, I contacted her brother, her official site's webmaster. He talked to her, she agreed that indeed this was her official image for the time being.

I've done everything I can to prove the image was fair use, and eventually had a full extensive list of fair use justification on the image description page, yet Nv8200p, DVD R W, Quarl, and Abu badali all seem intent on killing it permanently. Until there is a resolution, the article for the lead actress in the highest rated new show of this US television season will have her character represent her, instead of her genuine self. -- Zanimum 20:21, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Done. —Centrx→talk • 20:57, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

helpme

i edited a page before signing up and so my ip was registered - can it be deleted?

hoa

looking for a page to start a hoeonwers assocation—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.35.172.5 (talk • contribs) .

Have you tried Misplaced Pages's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Misplaced Pages, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. Note that if your questions is related to starting a homeowner's association on Misplaced Pages, this would not be an appropriate site for that organization. I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit 22:23, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Help with an article Nose grease

I don't know where to post this; a lot of the info in the article looks dubious. I tagged with fact and tagged the article with a sources template but if it really is rubbish it would be great to get it fixed. Where would the best place be to list the article for checking? I'm actually tempted to flag it for deletion, but I'm a little bit chicken. :-) Anchoress 22:13, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Don't do that yet, there are some sources to be found. Google does turn up "only" 500-some results for "nose grease", but if you do "nose grease" photography you get 900, and nose grease gives you completely different results (and a helluvalot more, many or most of which are actually relevant). Honestly, I don't understand how Google generates its results any longer, but that's besides the point. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:21, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and don't forget nose oil and "nose oil". -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:22, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Link problem... just me?

I was editing the article on *batteries not included and tried to fix the link to what should look like '']'', but the link would not pick up. Instead, it is displayed in red as if the article does not exist.

Is there a known problem with the parser which causes this, or did I just do this the wrong way?

I left the link as '']'', which is wrong in this context but the link works.

Thanks!

Marc W. Abel 22:22, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

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