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	:*] applies. She was a holocaust survivor and all the media is driven off that. <span class="nowrap" style="font-family:copperplate gothic light;">] (])</span> 02:56, 15 August 2017 (UTC)		:*] applies. She was a holocaust survivor and all the media is driven off that. <span class="nowrap" style="font-family:copperplate gothic light;">] (])</span> 02:56, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
	::*'''Comment''' The subject was a Holocaust survivor who, according to news sources, was a Holocaust educator. Over the years she was recognized for her service toward that effort. So, no, the media was not driven off of only surviving the Holocaust. If you read the sources, you will see that media was driven afterward by her Holocaust education efforts. Thank you. -] (]) 08:05, 15 August 2017 (UTC)		::*'''Comment''' The subject was a Holocaust survivor who, according to news sources, was a Holocaust educator. Over the years she was recognized for her service toward that effort. So, no, the media was not driven off of only surviving the Holocaust. If you read the sources, you will see that media was driven afterward by her Holocaust education efforts. Thank you. -] (]) 08:05, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
	:::*Do you what? I've tried four times now to draft a response to that and each time I have had to stop because I just know someone will be waiting to shout "anti-semitism". Let's just say that your sources seem to be pretty poor: almost entirely one local newspaper that simply churns out what it is fed by people wanting publicity for a cause/event etc. That's the same the world over. She was a "local hero" as an educator, whoop-de-doo, but so is the headteacher of every primary school and their frequent mentions in local papers don't create notability. It is the event that fascinates in this instance, not the person. - ] (]) 08:44, 15 August 2017 (UTC)		:::*Do you know what? I've tried four times now to draft a response to that and each time I have had to stop because I just know someone will be waiting to shout "anti-semitism". Let's just say that your sources seem to be pretty poor: almost entirely one local newspaper that simply churns out what it is fed by people wanting publicity for a cause/event etc. That's the same the world over. She was a "local hero" as an educator, whoop-de-doo, but so is the headteacher of every primary school and their frequent mentions in local papers don't create notability. It is the event that fascinates in this instance, not the person. - ] (]) 08:44, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

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Rose Van Thyn

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Fails WP:GNG. Yet another Shreveport-related figure who might have local notability but nothing beyond that. One of many Shreveport bios created/maintained by a rather niche group of contributors - several others have recently been deleted. Sitush (talk) 00:55, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

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Delete Two articles in The Shreveport Times does not notability make. Chris Troutman (talk) 01:00, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

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Keep. Article has eight sources, not two. Was a "Did you Know" in 2009. Subject fully notable.97.105.163.82 (talk) 12:40, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

And your geolocation + interests suggests you are a sock of the banned Billy Hathorn The sources you reinstated were blogs etc. - Sitush (talk) 12:48, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Keep An oral history interview with Van Thyn is on file at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, she was an Attaway fellow, was awarded an honorary degree, an annual Rose and Louis Van Thyn Holocaust Lecture Series is held at Centenary College, and she was given a National Conference of Community and Justice award. Passes WP:GNG. -AuthorAuthor (talk) 19:48, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

You're going to have to explain this to me. I don't see the significance of an oral history interview, nor an honorary degree - neither have ever counted towards notability in any article I've seen. The significance of other things you mention are just plain meaningless to me, perhaps because I am not in the US. - Sitush (talk) 19:56, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Keep I found plenty of news sources in LA that document her life and achievements significantly. She passes GNG. Please see the article. I cleaned it up and added sources. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:50, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

WP:BIO1E applies. She was a holocaust survivor and all the media is driven off that. Chris Troutman (talk) 02:56, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Comment The subject was a Holocaust survivor who, according to news sources, was a Holocaust educator. Over the years she was recognized for her service toward that effort. So, no, the media was not driven off of only surviving the Holocaust. If you read the sources, you will see that media was driven afterward by her Holocaust education efforts. Thank you. -AuthorAuthor (talk) 08:05, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Do you know what? I've tried four times now to draft a response to that and each time I have had to stop because I just know someone will be waiting to shout "anti-semitism". Let's just say that your sources seem to be pretty poor: almost entirely one local newspaper that simply churns out what it is fed by people wanting publicity for a cause/event etc. That's the same the world over. She was a "local hero" as an educator, whoop-de-doo, but so is the headteacher of every primary school and their frequent mentions in local papers don't create notability. It is the event that fascinates in this instance, not the person. - Sitush (talk) 08:44, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

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