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	Islamic State (ISIS): Controls and governs its territory; at war with Iraq and Syria (along with many others); Internationally recognized as a terrorist organization.		Islamic State (ISIS): Controls and governs its territory; at war with Iraq and Syria (along with many others); Internationally recognized as a terrorist organization.
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			== ISIS ==

			Shouldn't ISIS be included? ISIS is Islamic ''State'' of Iraq and Syria.

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Principality of Hutt River

I notice that the list of nations does not include the Principality of Hutt River(PHR), a 75 kilometre square nation established in 1970 on the Australian continent, recognised by Queen Elizabeth II, and which has all of the attributes required by the Montevideo Convention (1933). PHR is independent and greater in area than several other nations. By what standards is PHR excluded? PHR has existed as a sovereign entity for almost fifty years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.144.96.38 (talk) 00:45, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

In order to demonstrate that a putative state belongs on this list you would need to demonstrate either:

that the putative state is often considered by reliable sources independent of the subject (e.g. scholars or international lawyers) to meet the standard of the declarative theory. The sources need to be explicit on this point. What Wikipedians might think is not relevant. Or,
that the putative state has been recognised as a sovereign state by a UN member state. Again, this needs to be explicit. The notion that the use the words "Principality of Hutt River" by a governmental agency counts as recognition is a typical micronation claim and does not meet (or even come anywhere close to) the standard we require.

The difference between a sovereign state and a micronation is well understood in the literature. It is very clear that Hutt River is a micronation and thus does not belong on a list such as this. Kahastok talk 17:53, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

China's recognition

The article (protected so I cannot edit it myself) states that "China is not recognised by 21 UN member states and the Holy See, which instead recognise Taiwan." This should be "20 UN member states and the Holy See" and the note about Taiwan should be formulated as "which with the exception of Bhutan recognise Taiwan instead." - — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drieakko (talk • contribs)

@Drieakko: To be fair, you are an autoconfirmed user so you can actually edit the article if you'd like. - SantiLak (talk) 04:00, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Indeed, fixed. Drieakko (talk) 04:09, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

@Drieakko: The article is wrong as quoted by you. It should say that the CPC is not recognised by 21 UN members as the legitimate government of China. I don't know of any UN member that does not recognise China as a state. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 08:16, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Vatican City

The Vatican City is not sovereign, as noted in the article. I propose that it is moved down to the list of other entities at the end of the list, where it better belongs. Comment? Roger 8 Roger (talk) 21:29, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Other Unrecognized Countries

These groups control territory in one way or another and have a declaration of independence: Donetsk People's Republic: Controls and governs its territory; has a ceasefire with Ukraine. Internationally recognized as part of the Donetsk Oblast of Ukraine. Luhansk People's Republic: Controls and governs its territory; has a ceasefire with Ukraine. Internationally recognized as part of the Luhansk Oblast of Ukraine. Islamic State (ISIS): Controls and governs its territory; at war with Iraq and Syria (along with many others); Internationally recognized as a terrorist organization. Sovereign Military Order of Malta: Governs extraterritorial areas in Rome and Malta; Recognized by the Vatican City State (Holy See) as an independent sovereign state. Internationally recognized as a sovereign entity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A601:98D:BF00:4D2E:1C8F:B562:CB9F (talk) 22:34, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

ISIS

Shouldn't ISIS be included? ISIS is Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.

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