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	:::There are articles specific dealing with this topic of her being special as journalist on CNN, and BBC, I think that settles it from my point of view. : '''"Friends pay tribute to Kim Wall: 'She is more than what happened to her'"''' and BBC '''"Kim Wall: An ‘exceptional’ journalist remembered"''' Best regards --<b><font face="Verdana" size="2"> ]</font></b> 16:37, 24 August 2017 (UTC)		:::There are articles specific dealing with this topic of her being special as journalist on CNN, and BBC, I think that settles it from my point of view. : '''"Friends pay tribute to Kim Wall: 'She is more than what happened to her'"''' and BBC '''"Kim Wall: An ‘exceptional’ journalist remembered"''' Best regards --<b><font face="Verdana" size="2"> ]</font></b> 16:37, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

			::I agree that her life is notable well beyond her death, which is why the current ] especially troubles me. ~]]<sup>]</sup> 22:52, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

	:For expansion of the article, here are some links about her life, and collections of some of her articles: , , ] (]) 16:43, 24 August 2017 (UTC)		:For expansion of the article, here are some links about her life, and collections of some of her articles: , , ] (]) 16:43, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

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Removing merge template

Proposal to merge the article into UC3 Nautilus removed as explained on Talk:UC3 Nautilus#Kim Wall.

Best regards -- Neozoon 13:08, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

The lead

From the lead:

disappeared in a submarine

Disappeared after being last seen in a submarine?

She was later found dead prompting a murder investigation

As the murder investigtion started about 12 days before she (the torso) was found dead, it's not accurate to say the find prompted the investigation.--Nø (talk) 15:50, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Layout adjustment proposal

Proposal to include brief biographical information on both Wall and Madsen in the "background" section.

Best, Sebastian — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:3021:1A00:F680:D056:9D2:329D:D6DE (talk) 16:49, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

As I said in the edit summary we should follow the layout of Disappearance of Natalee Holloway as that is a featured article (highest quality article here on Misplaced Pages). - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 16:51, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Against Renaming the article from "Kim Wall (journalist)" into "Disappearence of Kim Wall"

I think this is not a proper way to rename the article from an article about a person into an article about the subpart of "disappearance".

Kim Wall was a person and an awardwinning journalist. All the other wikipedia-articles about her in other languages (german, danish and norwegian language) are about the person, also dealing with the topic of the crime.

Same for Wikidata item Kim Wall (Q36519983), which is linked with the article, its about the person not the crime. I will rename the article back to Kim Wall (journalist).

Best regards -- Neozoon 18:14, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

@Neozoon: She is most notable for her disappearance though as demonstrated by the reliable sources. We should go by WP:COMMONNAME, I know there is WP:OSE but as I said above we have Disappearance of Natalee Holloway which is a featured article. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:53, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

I suggest simply waiting and let current editing develop the article(s) before making further title changes. Events are occurring these days, changing the content - mostly about her death, but also about her life. Articles about women are commonly misjudged as "Not notable". As seen in the other languages, additional sources are available; there seems to be enough material online to warrant an article about her life. There is a big overlap between the three articles, and a separate article may be created at some point. TGCP (talk) 15:27, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Natalee Holloway was absolutely non-notable except as a victim. Wall was a journalist published in The Guardian, New York Times, Harper's Magazine, Time, The Atlantic and South China Morning Post among other publications. --85.194.2.168 (talk) 15:56, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

There are articles specific dealing with this topic of her being special as journalist on CNN, and BBC, I think that settles it from my point of view. : "Friends pay tribute to Kim Wall: 'She is more than what happened to her'" and BBC "Kim Wall: An ‘exceptional’ journalist remembered" Best regards -- Neozoon 16:37, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

I agree that her life is notable well beyond her death, which is why the current state of her infobox especially troubles me. ~Eliz81 22:52, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

For expansion of the article, here are some links about her life, and collections of some of her articles: South China Morning Post, 1, 2 3 TGCP (talk) 16:43, 24 August 2017 (UTC)