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::Thank you! Don't have any experience with writing medical content yet but will propose changes here first. have a great day. --<b>]</b>]<b>]</b> 08:52, 16 September 2017 (UTC) | ::Thank you! Don't have any experience with writing medical content yet but will propose changes here first. have a great day. --<b>]</b>]<b>]</b> 08:52, 16 September 2017 (UTC) | ||
Mickey, I do not necessarily think the differences between your experience and other's experiences is down to a 'single strain'. Your experience is a 'single case' and we are all biologically different people; single case reports are one of the weakest form of evidence. All psychoactive drugs have a side effect profile and I've never seen it described where 100% of persons get the exact same side effect or withdrawal effect profile or lack thereof. There is also the issue with long-term use where side effects will diminish for some people (tolerance) or increase or appear for others (toxicity or withdrawal). I am not denying that there are some subtle or not so subtle differences between strains of cannabis. There is additionally many controversial viewpoints on cannabis reflected in the academic literature.--] | ] 11:27, 16 September 2017 (UTC) |
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New study
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28734078 --Mikeschaerer (talk) 11:12, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- Interesting, but it appears to be a primary source. We'll have to wait for a review that covers it. Sizeofint (talk) 17:49, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
Overall Tone of Article and Veracity of Information
Wow. Just wow. Is this Misplaced Pages? This article is so obviously slanted against cannabis use that it rivals governmental and treatment-industry propoganda. I direct your attention to such obvious lies as "...and in the US 10 to 20% of consumers who use cannabis daily become dependent." Really? A 20% dependency rate? That's laughable. And the one accurate fact cited - the zero mortality rate - was only done so begrudgingly, surrounding it with weasely language suggesting that a lack of sufficient research renders that fact as suspect. 184.98.96.86 (talk) 20:12, 4 March 2016 (UTC) MrNaturalAZ 20160304
- I do not believe that the general public will take much of this article seriously. While most claims are properly sourced, its tone is approaching that of NIDA propaganda. Much of the article mentions claims that are inconclusive, out of context, rarely occur, etc. Confounding is rarely eliminated and evidence is weak for many claims. Some claims are likely simple associations, yet many readers will interpret this as implying causation. These points are not always made clear to the reader. Psyden (talk) 15:59, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Our recreational drug articles in general leave a lot to be desired. Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better... it's not. Sizeofint (talk) 17:53, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- I have to agree - it is hard to take this article seriously. Someone should balance it out at this point. 71.237.26.253 (talk) 00:45, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
- Our recreational drug articles in general leave a lot to be desired. Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better... it's not. Sizeofint (talk) 17:53, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
Bad Article
Why is there no information about the health benefits assoicated with use? And also that studies that allege some harmful effects---this fails to mention that its the smoke, not the cannabinoids themselves, which have any known links to cancer. In fact, studies have shown they have strong anti-cancer/anti-tumor properties. Came to this article and only found one sided, slant ed, and bad info. This article needs expansion. 2601:645:8302:842F:C06:55B2:F8B:716 (talk) 22:42, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
- Well, psychoactive drug articles are pretty crappy in general on Misplaced Pages. I agree it needs work. When dealing with medical content we use the WP:MEDRS sourcing guideline. This restricts some of the sources we can use. You're welcome to improve this article as long as it stays within MEDRS. Sizeofint (talk) 02:23, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
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Am I smoking the same cannabis?
I just wanted to say I am a long term cultural user of cannabis and whenever I read the "claimed" side effects I want to ask what the hell were they smoking during these studies. Seriously some of the findings seems absurd when you have been using this plant on a daily basis for years. I mean it's like how a coffee drinker can tell you that you don't experience a moment of insanity when you drink a strong cup. Although that is the findings of coffee well if my dagga brains serves me correctly.
I would like to point out a simple oversight made by most of the studies and research on the negative side-effects of cannabis and that is they are using a single strain of cannabis or do not account for strain type at all. (especially older studies)
There are probably thousands of strains of cannabis. Each one unique with it's own unique cannabinoid profile exerting different properties and physiological changes on the human body.
Cannabis is not a single strain where you can generalize short & long term effects as if it each study or finding applies to all cannabis strains.
How is the accounted for, has this been anticipated?
--Mickey ☠ Dangerez 00:53, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
- Reference: The 2nd paragraph of the Effects of cannabis highlights the problem with outdated research. References must be re-verified as accurate to current scientific consensus.--Mickey ☠ Dangerez 01:06, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
- The best course of action would be to find some WP:MEDRS compliant sources and WP:FIXIT. If you don't have much experience editing medical content yet, you may want to post proposed changes here first to get feedback. Sizeofint (talk) 04:02, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you! Don't have any experience with writing medical content yet but will propose changes here first. have a great day. --Mickey ☠ Dangerez 08:52, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Mickey, I do not necessarily think the differences between your experience and other's experiences is down to a 'single strain'. Your experience is a 'single case' and we are all biologically different people; single case reports are one of the weakest form of evidence. All psychoactive drugs have a side effect profile and I've never seen it described where 100% of persons get the exact same side effect or withdrawal effect profile or lack thereof. There is also the issue with long-term use where side effects will diminish for some people (tolerance) or increase or appear for others (toxicity or withdrawal). I am not denying that there are some subtle or not so subtle differences between strains of cannabis. There is additionally many controversial viewpoints on cannabis reflected in the academic literature.--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 11:27, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
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