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::::::Nisman's charges against Cristina Fernández de Kirchner have also been dismissed (March 2015). "Terrorism experts"? Laughable, perhaps only in a Jewish state. As I said, you can blame Iran and Muslims even for the idea for the Holocaust (like PM Netanyahu did), but as I said, keep such pathetic fantasies for yourself. --] (]) 20:56, 16 September 2017 (UTC) ::::::Nisman's charges against Cristina Fernández de Kirchner have also been dismissed (March 2015). "Terrorism experts"? Laughable, perhaps only in a Jewish state. As I said, you can blame Iran and Muslims even for the idea for the Holocaust (like PM Netanyahu did), but as I said, keep such pathetic fantasies for yourself. --] (]) 20:56, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
:::::::: Now replying via IP? Please maintain ], and note 1RR (which you exceeded) on ARBPIA. Iranian officials have been charged, international arrest warrants issued, and a trial did not take plae only since they were fugitives from justice. .] (]) 21:02, 16 September 2017 (UTC) :::::::: Now replying via IP? Please maintain ], and note 1RR (which you exceeded) on ARBPIA. Iranian officials have been charged, international arrest warrants issued, and a trial did not take plae only since they were fugitives from justice. .] (]) 21:02, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::Loging issues. There's no doubt you can find 10 articles about alleged "Iran/Hezbollah involvement", but you can also find 10 articles which refute such claim. Since you're insisting on first part, you're obviously a POV pusher. Article is already deeply one-sided and you further want to make it worse, by excluding American investigate journalists who challenge accusations. --] (]) 09:24, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6089788.stm In case anyone feels like integrating it, some good stuff.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.252.103.11 (talk) 23:39, 26 October 2006‎ (UTC)

POV

Respectfully to all involved in this article, I think the word martyrdom (about the suicide bomber) is POV. For this reason, I've put that word in quotation marks.

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Part of South Lebanon conflict (1982–2000)?

The infobox states that this article/event is part of the South Lebanon conflict (1982–2000). I don't think it is appropriated because it assumes that the attack has its origins in the Lebanon conflict; while the reasons behind the attack are -to my humble opinion- far from clear.

I would like to read your opinions before removing it.

Fernando A. Gimenez (talk) 16:11, 1 November 2012 (UTC)


New info in July 2013

It is reported that the former interior minister of Argentina, a Jewish fellow named Carlos Vladimir Corach, is being investigated for his ties to the bombing. Seems he paid $400,000 to one of the bombers. I'll leave it to the WikiGatekeepers to decide whether or not to report this terribly unfashionable development. There's more info on the Jewish Telegraph's site. http://www.jta.org/2013/06/30/news-opinion/world/jewish-ex-argentina-govt-official-to-be-probed-in-amia-bombing 38.115.185.4 (talk) 15:11, 2 July 2013 (UTC)HelenChicago

Just a correction. Corach didn't pay to "one of the bombers". He supposedly paid $400.000 to Telleldín, the car dealer who allegedly sold the car which ended up being used for the attack. --Fernando A. Gimenez (talk) 17:10, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Question: Would it be relevantly important to make a mention in the main article regarding Carlos Vladimir Corach's Jewish background? Because should the 400K payment be proven, this blows this case wide open to the suggestion that this was a Mossad "false flag" event... Please advise — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.130.172.43 (talk) 21:58, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

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Ridiculous claims by lobbyists

Claim that Hezbollah claimed responsibility is absolute nonsense, since they denied any involvement and condemned the attack, and inserting book by Matthew Levitt as a reference is a balant POV itself because he comes from Israeli lobbyist group WINEP. --MehrdadFR (talk) 17:19, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Suspected Hezbollah involvement, via their proxy at the time Ansar Allah, is well sourced.Icewhiz (talk) 18:43, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Suspected perpetrator is already inside infobox, although it is not certain was bomber Berro or not. Field "perpetrator" stands for clear responsibility for the criminal attack, not for speculations, accusations and suspicions. Officially, the case is unsolved and ongoing. There are numerous sources which state contrary to your claims, and also about foreign pressures, changes in charges during the presidency of Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, and so on. --MehrdadFR (talk) 19:49, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Academic consensus is Hezbollah involvement, as does Nisman's investigation. Kirchner's political manueavering years after the attack, have little relevance - they are relevant to her article or to Argentina's various law and order articles. The status of the case, in a country such as Argentina, has little bearing on anything.Icewhiz (talk) 19:59, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Do not lie, it is not. As I said Levitt is writer and member of lobbyist group WINEP, not any kind of reputable academic. Nisman's charges based on misinformation by one pity MEK member has been dismissed years ago, today it's relevant only to biographical article about him, legal it's a past. You're manipulating, that's oblivious, sticking to past and some fringe figures of zero importance. Please keep in mind Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, not outlet of a Jewish state. --MehrdadFR (talk) 20:14, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Nisman was assassinated, after performing an in depth investigation and drafting an arrest warrrant for CK on grounds of obstruction. The sourcing here is well beyond just Levitt. Consensus amongst terrorism experts is to state suspected Iraan\Hezbollah involvement, and this is done in just about every serious coverage of this attack.Icewhiz (talk) 20:21, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Nisman's charges against Cristina Fernández de Kirchner have also been dismissed (March 2015). "Terrorism experts"? Laughable, perhaps only in a Jewish state. As I said, you can blame Iran and Muslims even for the idea for the Holocaust (like PM Netanyahu did), but as I said, keep such pathetic fantasies for yourself. --5.115.149.91 (talk) 20:56, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Now replying via IP? Please maintain WP:CIVIL, and note 1RR (which you exceeded) on ARBPIA. Iranian officials have been charged, international arrest warrants issued, and a trial did not take plae only since they were fugitives from justice. .Icewhiz (talk) 21:02, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Loging issues. There's no doubt you can find 10 articles about alleged "Iran/Hezbollah involvement", but you can also find 10 articles which refute such claim. Since you're insisting on first part, you're obviously a POV pusher. Article is already deeply one-sided and you further want to make it worse, by excluding American investigate journalists who challenge accusations. --MehrdadFR (talk) 09:24, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
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