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Dozoretz inclusion

Please don't delete the information regarding Knoll/Dozoretz. Dozoretz is perhaps the biggest pioneer of the field, more or less starting it in earnest with work in Mission Impossible and using it extensively to essentially create a pre-viz cut of the entirety of each of the Star Wars prequels before filming began. He was also the first person hired for the prequels, with good cause. He's been cited as one of the top three pre-viz artists in the world by a noted FX publication. His interview with PC Magazine also clearly establishes his place central to the blossoming of the field. That he doesn't have an article on WP yet is an omission that hopefully will be addressed in the near future. Girolamo Savonarola 19:21, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Your edit is nonsensical - Lucas didn't previz the films. Furthermore, while discussing Dozoretz's role in an article on the film may indeed be a "minor player" mention, bringing up the name of the guy who created the field of modern previsualization is plenty germane in an article on Previsualization. If you have further problems with this, cite something to the contrary. Girolamo Savonarola 19:38, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

So why not mention the other "TOP THREE" pre-viz artists? Why not mention Ron Frankel? I know previz people that could run rings around David. What is the point in mentioning his name where it does not belong. He is/was a minor player.

The fact that the inclusion of only one artist's name (and not any others) is why the omission should be enacted. In your previous discussion piece, you mention that he is ONE of the top three previsualization artists (from an article dated from 2002). This leads us to the question of "Why not mentuion the other two?" So he was the first previz-artist hired at the 'Ranch. Should we not also mention the first previz artists hired at Warner Brothers?

I mean, really? There is no mention of hardware and software used, techniques, or even a brief description of the process- and yet you see fit to "drop names." The sad thing is this is all too "Hollywood." The awesome thing is, that people are going to see this discussion, and realize what a crock the name dropping is anyway.

Enjoy!

Perhaps you could actually open an account here instead of sniping from the sidelines. The notion that Dozoretz is a minor player is laughable when he pretty much started the field and supervised the work on the most previz-intensive films yet created. Why was Frankel omitted? I didn't write the Dozoretz section to begin with, so I don't know. I'm guessing that the other two were chosen on the merits of their work, which I'm not qualified to judge; however, Dozoretz was chosen not only for the films he worked on, but the amount of influence he's had in the creation of the field. I don't think it's unreasonable to include notable founding artists when discussing the history of a field. This is an encyclopedia - we are supposed to cite names when they are relevant to the article. If you want to add Frankel and Green's contributions to the field, please do as I am not familiar with the specifics of their particular work. I'm going to do a more thorough edit of this page in the next few days, with references. If you have sourced information which negates Dozoretz's involvement with the creation of modern CGI-based previsualization, cite it, otherwise future edits may be regarded by other editors as vandalism. Girolamo Savonarola 21:57, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

name dropping is not information

Cite what??? How do you 'prove' something that DIDN'T HAPPEN? You are asking me to cite articles that proves David Dozoretz is not the single handed "founder" of previsualization? Are you on crack? The fact of the matter is this: You (or the original author) cited Dozoretz name like three times in the article. Please get his flacid penis out of your mouth, and consider a well written entry like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/Storyboarding

Yes, they mention a few artists- nothing wrong with that. But, your account is more of a fairy tale, describing the "GLORIOUS HIRING" (LMAO) of the magnificent DAVID DOZORETZ as the king of Previz. Cut us all some slack, remove your puckered lips from his anus, and make a useful entry instead of worrying about who's "sniping" your beloved post.

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