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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thank you for helping protect Misplaced Pages against fraudulent content, undisclosed paid editing, and COI. These things represent one of the largest threats to the integrity of the project and would surely have long since destroyed Misplaced Pages if were not for individuals such as yourself maintaining the front line. ]] 20:18, 12 July 2016 (UTC) | |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thank you for helping protect Misplaced Pages against fraudulent content, undisclosed paid editing, and COI. These things represent one of the largest threats to the integrity of the project and would surely have long since destroyed Misplaced Pages if were not for individuals such as yourself maintaining the front line. ]] 20:18, 12 July 2016 (UTC) | ||
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Revision as of 14:37, 10 January 2018
"...be mindful of...how the opposition will stalk and target your articles, try to get you involved in an edit war, and make up a rationale for blocking you. Don't be fooled by this game. To avoid falling for this trap...Understand that some editors have antisocial attitudes, others are drunk or on drugs, and still others have psychological problems that we can't address. Above all, remain true to yourself and stay above the fray..." -- written by a wise Wikipedian (who shall remain anonymous)
"You are a sloppy editor with little knowledge of either editing policy, sourcing or writing." -- A assessment of me offered by a former administrator that gives a perfect example of non-AGF behavior and totally violates Misplaced Pages's policy on "no personal attacks". This is the kind of thanks volunteer editors have to put up with all too frequently, and yet, we trod on.
"It's dressed up a little nicer, definitely has appeal to those with education and a desire to help others, but all-in-all, Misplaced Pages is still just the internet. Never forget that the internet can be a cruel, heartless place where even the most educated and seemingly decent of humans can act like total assholes and treat their fellow humans like shit. And they do it because they're just a bunch of nameless, faceless anonymous individuals online who use this medium to take out their hidden anger and inner ugliness on the world. In real life, they're probably well-liked and respected. If their friends only knew." -- written by another wise Wikipedian (who shall also remain anonymous)
On 1RR: "You see an edit that is vandalism. You revert it - not an issue The vandal re-reverts You can revert again and repeat these last two steps ad infinitum (though it might be an idea to log this at WP:AIV) That's one scenario. Then there is:
An editor posts a note on your talk page saying "my edit was right and yours was wrong" You revert it - nice to keep a clean talk page The editor puts the note back You revert it - okay because we give users enough leeway on their talk pages The one to watch out for is:
You see an edit that changes a word from US to UK spelling You revert it - that's your one revert gone The editor re-reverts You stop and use the talk page, or find one of the other 5 million articles to edit. STOP HERE. Otherwise.... You revert it - aaargh, 1RR violated Drmies blocks you for edit warring and violating your restriction You're now screwed because 1) Drmies is always right and 2) When Drmies is actually wrong, refer to rule 1" -- Thanks to Ritchie333 for the concise, clear, specific explanation
Where am I in the food chain? |
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I've been here a while, and there are plenty who have been here longer. I don't always get it right, but I always try to be right. The service award you see here is just indicative of how many edits I have made, not how good I am at making them or whether I feel "more important" than those who have fewer edits. We all can contribute - hopefully we do it in a constructive manner - after all, that's (supposed to be) the point of being here. |
If you've had any kind of issue or misunderstanding in your dealings with me, there is an excellent article/essay on Misplaced Pages editors with Asperger Syndrome found here that might help.
About me and editing | ||
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If you're here because of an editing issue or a revert I've made to one or more of your edits and you feel I've made an error, please leave me a civil message on my talk page. Because being on the Autism Spectrum uffects everything I do (typo intentional), think, and say, whether it be in real life or on the internet, and since the reason why most people come to an editor's user space is to find out more about 'em, (typo intentional) I ask that you read the "The Autie Pact". Written beautifully by long-time editor User:ThatPeskyCommoner, the pact should be read by all neuro-typical Misplaced Pages editors in order to better understand how to work well and peacefully with non-neurotypical editors (such as myself). The pact is very complete, however, there are a couple of things I would add to them thar words frum Pesky (typos and grammatical errors intentional):
Those of us on the spectrum who enjoy editing Misplaced Pages want pretty much the same thing the neurotypical editors want: to add to Misplaced Pages and have fun doing it. And to edit in peace. Because unwanted drama and the stress that goes with it sucks. |
Bullies and sharks |
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A disturbing trend |
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I'm noticing more and more a very disturbing and encroaching trend among editors -- mostly newer editors and young editors: no one seems to understand what an encyclopedia is, what encyclopedic tone is, what makes for encyclopedic content and what doesn't. It seems to me that with most reading outside of school being done on the internet these days, people under 30-or-so have no concept of the difference between tabloid content and true encyclopedic content is. More and more, new and/or younger editors think because it's sourced, it should be included in Misplaced Pages. Some believe (and this includes editors who have been here a while and know better) because it's news, it's article- or inclusion-worthy. Anything in the news belongs in Misplaced Pages. Anything that is quoted from an online source or a celebrity is reliable. They think anything found in a reliable source is automatically trustworthy and inclusive. This is what will continue more and more to be a real problem with Misplaced Pages and keep its reliability factor in the toilet. And all because some folks just don't know the difference between a true encyclopedia article and People Magazine. |
Another disturbing trend |
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An almost robotic recitation of "We only go by what the reliable sources say" when the reliable sources are really, really wrong. This, in part, is due to "news" being available anywhere on the internet and each news group vying to scoop the other. In the rush to post that news scoop, investigation for completeness and truth is lacking. That's on the news agency, of course, but it is also up to the Misplaced Pages editor to realize that just because a source is deemed reliable for Misplaced Pages purposes, they aren't infallible. This indicates not only a lack of common sense but a lack of honesty in editing. One would hope that with talk page discussion a compromise could be reached with the common sense solution prevailing. That is happening less and less in Misplaced Pages from what I can tell. Political agendas, personal agendas that are about opposing editors at any cost... the integrity of content in Misplaced Pages is forgotten or intentionally set aside for these purposes. It's disturbing, to say the least. Especially when, in the course of doing so, the importance of BLP guidelines are completely set aside. |
Funny stuff |
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Raising-of-the-eyebrow "Are you kidding me?" stuff |
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Regarding Misplaced Pages's Good Article and Featured Article status': Before feeling all giddy that you have nominated an article for GA or FA status and such status was granted, remember it's a "distinction" that is contained solely within Misplaced Pages. In other words, no one's getting a Pulitzer or other journalistic prize with a GA/FA stamp of approval. GA and FA only mean that a Misplaced Pages editor who likely has no writing, journalistic, or editorial training had an article they have created/contributed to gone over, judged, and evaluated by another Misplaced Pages editor who likely has no writing, journalistic, or editorial training. Further, it's important to remember GA/FA is a within-Misplaced Pages "award". Which, in the real world means... ...nothing whatsoever. Remember that next time you think you're all that because you have a (or another) GA or FA notch on your Misplaced Pages belt. |
Great advice and quotes |
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The following is taken from a talk page message left by a wise administrator following an editor block for continued and escalating personal attacks as well as incivility and battleground behavior. I find what he has to say to be the best explanation yet of why remaining civil and cooperative in Misplaced Pages is the imperative gold standard: "Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia created not by any one individual, but by a cooperative community. It is mandatory that you cooperate with the community in editing Misplaced Pages. Attacking people and insulting them incessantly, as you have done, serves no good purpose. It disrupts the community, it drives people away from the discussions, and in the long term degrades the value of your own contributions." Another administrator quote that contains more truism and sage advice: "...administrators don't care about your content dispute. Administrative tools are intended to prevent disruption." Not an administrator who wrote this, but it's some of the best and most completely accurate analysis of how difficult Misplaced Pages can be and what one can do to survive it: "It's time to start building bridges and coalitions composed of editors who will no longer stand idle while others are being attacked and denigrated. Just be mindful of...how the opposition will stalk and target your articles, try to get you involved in an edit war, and make up a rationale for blocking you. Don't be fooled by this game. To avoid falling for this trap, don't make any reverts and use the talk page to engage in calm talk. If you must revert, do so only once a day, if at all. Don't respond to incivility with incivility, respond with kindness and a polite reminder about the civility policy. Understand that some editors have antisocial attitudes, others are drunk or on drugs, and still others have psychological problems that we can't address. Above all, remain true to yourself and stay above the fray. If you can't avoid conflict, reach out to likeminded editors and admins for support. Find allies and make friends, and stay positive." And finally, more great advice that I will refer back to from time to time, no doubt: "...do not respond here or elsewhere to accusations about behavior; keep playing the ball, not the man. It's all about the bass--the rest is just so much treble." (Yeah - damn that signal-to-noise ratio, anyway!) Regarding edit warring: Not always so cut-and-dried. For example, if you are repeatedly reverting someone you point a finger at and accuse of being an edit warrior - guess what? You're being an edit warrior, too. Duh. |
How things should work here (but don't, always) |
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Misplaced Pages is all about teamwork. It's not about winning or delivering a "Checkmate!". Editors must work together to build a reliable encyclopedia, not try to prove themselves to be "better" than others, not to show off grammar and writing skills and knowledge of language. Just to improve the encyclopedia with others who are here to do the same. In the spirit of teamwork and Misplaced Pages working as much like a well-maintained engine as possible, I believe administrators should be a good example and here to help -- sadly, this isn't always what happens. I've seen some administrators who are kind, patient, and bend over backward to retain good editors. I've also seen some administrators who behave disruptively and treat Misplaced Pages's volunteer editors with unbridled disrespect and animosity, even when undeserved. That's not how cooperation is modeled or encouraged. Prevention, not punishment. Working together, not winning. Respect, not revilement. Resolution taken into your own hands rather than running to noticeboards and talk pages whining and posting a laundry list of reversion diffs or record of past infractions, errors, and perceived wrongs. Keep the long-term goal in mind. Do your part to make things better and the rest will fall into place. Divas and chronic victims need not apply. |
Misplaced Pages is no place for humour. Everything is very serious here and we are all terrifically important. |
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Barnstars and stuff
The Barnstar of Diligence | ||
For keeping up with and reporting countless Monterrosa socks, I award you The Barnstar of Dilegence! XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 01:53, 27 March 2014 (UTC) |
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar | ||
I know that tracking sockpuppets and filing the appropriate reports is time consuming so your efforts with the socks of Monterossa are much appreciated. Cheers MarnetteD | Talk 17:59, 27 April 2014 (UTC) |
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | |
For the good work you're doing on Jack Dempsey right now. LHM 20:17, 4 October 2014 (UTC) |
The Original Barnstar | ||
Good job fixing peacock language and other minor fixes on Helen Hooven Santmyer. Choor monster (talk) 14:27, 15 October 2014 (UTC) |
The Barnstar of Diplomacy | |
Thanks for helping keep Misplaced Pages free of tabloid junk and remaining civil through it all! Keep it up EoRdE6 05:50, 8 February 2015 (UTC) |
California Star | |
For having the gumption to create a solution talked about at an AfD, by creating a sub-article for the Golden Gate Bridge about suicides which occur there. Doing so is bold and creates a new consensus which retains verified content that would have otherwise been deleted. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 02:17, 16 March 2015 (UTC) |
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar | ||
For being the first to stand up for the values of Misplaced Pages in Misplaced Pages:Templates for discussion/Log/2015 March 16#Template:Maintained\what was ultimately a losing battle, and sticking with them in the face of great opposition. — Daniel Case (talk) 02:14, 16 April 2015 (UTC) |
The Special Barnstar | |
I'm sorry for poking my nose in yesterday! (Despite my good intentions I perhaps shouldn't have got involved!) It all makes so much sense now! |
The Resilient Barnstar | |
The Resilient Barnstar is awarded to any editor who learns and improves from criticisms, never letting mistakes impede their growth as an editor. You are one of them! Thanks for your hard work in getting issues resolved! CookieMonster755 (talk) 19:18, 2 May 2015 (UTC) |
The Special Barnstar | |
Thanks also for being a kind and helpful editor. That cannot go by unnoticed! :-) Ches (talk) 15:53, 13 February 2016 (UTC) |
The Surreal Barnstar | |
Can I just say that even after the mess that is that review page, and given our history, you are still giving the article a fair review. I really hope this is a turning point in our wiki relationshipp. Thanks so much. MaranoFan (talk) 09:23, 21 February 2016 (UTC) |
Sockpuppet reporting barnstar | |
Dear Winkelvi, thank you for reporting me as a sockpuppet. I have waited for months, and am now using my new privileges to make wonderful edits and new articles. Thank you for reporting me, even if I did not understand at the time. I have learned my lesson, not to sock puppet and will never sockpuppet again. Thank you, Cheers! CookieMonster755 04:05, 1 May 2016 (UTC) |
The Barnstar of Diligence | |
AKA the baloney-fighting barnstar! HappyValleyEditor (talk) 01:15, 12 July 2016 (UTC) |
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar | |
Thank you for helping protect Misplaced Pages against fraudulent content, undisclosed paid editing, and COI. These things represent one of the largest threats to the integrity of the project and would surely have long since destroyed Misplaced Pages if were not for individuals such as yourself maintaining the front line. Mkdw 20:18, 12 July 2016 (UTC) |
The Barnstar of Diplomacy | |
I appreciate your contributions regarding my topic ban as well as your thoughts on Arbitration Enforcement. --MONGO 13:07, 10 January 2018 (UTC) |
Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly. |
For your nomination for deletion of clearly mergable content at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Transition of Caitlyn Jenner, you are awarded this delicious trout. Enjoy! VQuakr (talk) 07:10, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
Articles I've created/edited significantly
- 2014 Oso mudslide
- Almanzo Wilder
- Andraé Crouch
- Bess Myerson
- Billy the Kid
- Bobbi Kristina Brown
- Constitución, Chile
- Dave Kerzner
- Dimensionaut
- Donna Douglas
- Earl Hamner, Jr.
- George Reeves
- Happy Bottom Riding Club
- Helen Hooven Santmyer
- Jack Dempsey
- James Arthur Williams
- Jared Fogle
- Jason Lee (actor)
- Josh Duggar
- Laura Ingalls Wilder
- Little Miss Nobody (American murder victim)
- Michael Gilbert
- My Uncle's Wedding
- Myles Munroe
- New World (Dave Kerzner album)
- P. L. Travers
- Pima County Jane Doe
- Robert B. Sherman
- Robin Williams
- Rose Wilder Lane
- Sally Field
- Simon Collins
- Sound of Contact
- Stop at 4 (since deleted)
- Stranded (Dave Kerzner song)
- Suicides at the Golden Gate Bridge
- Taylor Negron
- Two by Twos
- Misplaced Pages rollbackers
- Misplaced Pages pending changes reviewers
- Wikipedians in the Counter-Vandalism Unit
- Wikipedians open to trout slapping
- Autistic Wikipedians
- Misplaced Pages good article contributors
- Wikipedian recent changes patrollers
- WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors participants
- WikiProject Autism participants
- WikiProject United States Presidents participants