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== Justice League ==

I just wanted you to know that the information you wanted to insert was removed from the lead. First, the lead summarizes and shouldn't be a house for unique information not present elsewhere in the article. Second, the article wasn't identifying it as a "bomb" in the sense that you were using it when you linked to that page. It was using the term as a symbolic reference for the film not performing better, not that it didn't make money. They kind of go out of their way to point out that if it was any other franchise, it would be considered a success, but because it's Justice League it's considered a "bomb" simply because it didn't make a billion dollars. They weren't actually comparing direct costs to revenue ratios and we shouldn't be presenting the information as if they were. ] ] 21:13, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
:Hi, ], In modern times, the phrase 'box office bomb' is used liberally for any film that does not make what is expected, see "The Mummy", "Blade Runner 2049," "King Arthur", and "Justice League." -- ] <small>(])</small> 21:17, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
::The very page you link to says that it's more than just simply not making back what it costs. Again, the issue not about whether it lost money, the issue is two-fold: The lead is not the place to introduce unique information that isn't present in the rest of the article, and Forbes was talking about how Justice League compares to other franchises and because of its hype is considered a bomb, not because of actual money lost. That's my point, they go out of their way to point out how it's made as much as many other films that cost similar, but it is not living up to reputation. You cannot insert that into the lead for sensationalism when there isn't context to explain what Forbes is saying. ] ] 21:20, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
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:First, don't presume to know me based on what I edit. It's unprofessional and uncouth to accuse me of having a COI because you think I work for something I don't simply based on my edits. I have also edited tons of Horror related articles, do you assume I work for those companies as well? Please don't try to distract the discussion with baseless accusations.

:Second, you clearly keep missing my point. I never said the film was or was not a bomb. What I said was that (and I'll try to make this clearer for you):
:1) The lead is for summarizing an article NOT for inserting unique information not present elsewhere. Please see ]
:2) The way Forbes is talking, you're presenting the information without context and Forbes is clearly talking about the film in relation to its performance and other franchises, not simply the Xs and Os of budgets. Yes, it has failed to make its money back. Not disputing that, nor disputing the actual label of "bomb". I'm telling you that you are misattributing what Forbes is saying by trying to make it seem as though they are specifically talking about cost and revenue. It's much more than that and you can see that from reading the whole and not title grabbing.

:In conclusion, what you should surmise from this is that you need to develop the box office section more to reflect what you're trying to add instead of simply taking the shortcut approach and throwing it in the lead (where it doesn't belong, because the lead is for summarizing). ] ] 22:18, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
:::Very well, per this discussion, I will add that information via the sources i have amalgamated into the box office section, and then after I will reinsert it into the lede, as it is very notable, and currently isn't mentioned at all on the article, which i find sinister. -- ] <small>(])</small> 22:22, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

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Justice League

I just wanted you to know that the information you wanted to insert was removed from the lead. First, the lead summarizes and shouldn't be a house for unique information not present elsewhere in the article. Second, the article wasn't identifying it as a "bomb" in the sense that you were using it when you linked to that page. It was using the term as a symbolic reference for the film not performing better, not that it didn't make money. They kind of go out of their way to point out that if it was any other franchise, it would be considered a success, but because it's Justice League it's considered a "bomb" simply because it didn't make a billion dollars. They weren't actually comparing direct costs to revenue ratios and we shouldn't be presenting the information as if they were.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 21:13, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi, User:Bignole, In modern times, the phrase 'box office bomb' is used liberally for any film that does not make what is expected, see "The Mummy", "Blade Runner 2049," "King Arthur", and "Justice League." -- Wilner (Speak to me) 21:17, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
The very page you link to says that it's more than just simply not making back what it costs. Again, the issue not about whether it lost money, the issue is two-fold: The lead is not the place to introduce unique information that isn't present in the rest of the article, and Forbes was talking about how Justice League compares to other franchises and because of its hype is considered a bomb, not because of actual money lost. That's my point, they go out of their way to point out how it's made as much as many other films that cost similar, but it is not living up to reputation. You cannot insert that into the lead for sensationalism when there isn't context to explain what Forbes is saying.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 21:20, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi there, User:Bignole. The fact is that Justice League is a box office bomb, and this is well reported as a simple Google search indicates. In 2017, the term has been used liberally for films that grossed more than their budgets but did not perform as expected. See Blade Runner 2049, King Arthur, The Mummy (2017 film), and Justice League. Here are many sources calling it a box office bomb, and the term 'box office flop', which links to the same wiki article:

1.The Atlantic calls it a 'flop.'

2.Uproxx calls it a 'bomb.'

3.Screenrant calls it a 'box office bomb disaster.'

4. Forbes does, as sourced before, and no it's not a "joke" as you claim: "Justice League is somewhat unique unto itself in terms of being able to make so much and still be considered a bomb."

5. Vulture calls it a 'flop.'

6. Business Insider calls it a 'flop.'

7. Observer calls it a 'flop.'

8. toofab calls it a 'flop.

9. Express calls it a 'flop.'


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First, don't presume to know me based on what I edit. It's unprofessional and uncouth to accuse me of having a COI because you think I work for something I don't simply based on my edits. I have also edited tons of Horror related articles, do you assume I work for those companies as well? Please don't try to distract the discussion with baseless accusations.
Second, you clearly keep missing my point. I never said the film was or was not a bomb. What I said was that (and I'll try to make this clearer for you):
1) The lead is for summarizing an article NOT for inserting unique information not present elsewhere. Please see WP:LEAD
2) The way Forbes is talking, you're presenting the information without context and Forbes is clearly talking about the film in relation to its performance and other franchises, not simply the Xs and Os of budgets. Yes, it has failed to make its money back. Not disputing that, nor disputing the actual label of "bomb". I'm telling you that you are misattributing what Forbes is saying by trying to make it seem as though they are specifically talking about cost and revenue. It's much more than that and you can see that from reading the whole and not title grabbing.
In conclusion, what you should surmise from this is that you need to develop the box office section more to reflect what you're trying to add instead of simply taking the shortcut approach and throwing it in the lead (where it doesn't belong, because the lead is for summarizing).  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 22:18, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
Very well, per this discussion, I will add that information via the sources i have amalgamated into the box office section, and then after I will reinsert it into the lede, as it is very notable, and currently isn't mentioned at all on the article, which i find sinister. -- Wilner (Speak to me) 22:22, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

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Your edit does not match your edit summary? --NeilN 04:18, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Shoot, I'm sorry User:NeilN ! I didn't know you already removed it. I assumed something went wrong with my editing. I was in the process of removing it when that happened. No malicious intent! I've also messaged that user on their talk page letting them know it goes against WP:BLP and WP:RS.-- Wilner (Speak to me) 04:22, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
It was actually EEng who removed it. Do you want to undo your edit? --NeilN 04:24, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
Oh, whoops. I see that now. I don't think I can at this point because i've made a few more edits attempting to add past information, with good sources, such as Newsweek. -- Wilner (Speak to me) 04:37, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

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