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The Requests for closure noticeboard is for posting requests to have an uninvolved editor assess, summarize, and formally close a discussion on Misplaced Pages. Formal closure by an uninvolved editor or administrator should be requested where consensus remains unclear, where the issue is a contentious one, or where there are wiki-wide implications, such as when the discussion is about creating, abolishing or changing a policy or guideline.
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Requests for closure
See also: Misplaced Pages:Requested moves § Backlog, Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Old, Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion, Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Awaiting closure, Misplaced Pages:Templates for discussion § Old discussions, and Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion § Old businessAdministrative discussions
Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Baseball Bugs' comments at ANI
Would an admin assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Baseball Bugs' comments at ANI (Initiated 2446 days ago on 30 April 2018)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Place new administrative discussions above this line
RfCs
Talk:Windows Server 2016#RfC Windows Server 2016 vs Windows Server, version 1709
(Initiated 2494 days ago on 13 March 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Windows Server 2016#RfC Windows Server 2016 vs Windows Server, version 1709? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Talk:The Great Courses#RfC -- Course categories and professor names
(Initiated 2492 days ago on 15 March 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:The Great Courses#RfC -- Course categories and professor names? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 22:13, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Talk:Alliance for Securing Democracy#RfC about Glenn Greenwald's criticism
(Initiated 2490 days ago on 17 March 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Alliance for Securing Democracy#RfC about Glenn Greenwald's criticism? Thanks, Gravity 16:07, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Alliance for Securing Democracy#RfC about Glenn Greenwald's criticism? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Talk:Bitcoin Cash#RfC on the original author
(Initiated 2488 days ago on 19 March 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Bitcoin Cash#RfC on the original author? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Talk:Muslim conquests of the Indian subcontinent#Biased and misleading title
(Initiated 2488 days ago on 19 March 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Muslim conquests of the Indian subcontinent#Biased and misleading title? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 22:13, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Talk:Buckingham Palace#RfC about infobox
(Initiated 2488 days ago on 19 March 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Buckingham Palace#RfC about infobox? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Talk:Snoop Dogg discography#Split
(Initiated 2487 days ago on 20 March 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Snoop Dogg discography#Split? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Talk:Peter Thiel#RFC - organization of article
(Initiated 2486 days ago on 21 March 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Peter Thiel#RFC - organization of article? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Talk:George Washington#Request for comment on whether or not the painting known as "Washington Crossing the Delaware" should be included in this article
(Initiated 2484 days ago on 23 March 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:George Washington#Request for comment on whether or not the painting known as "Washington Crossing the Delaware" should be included in this article? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Talk:Doug Ford Jr.#RFC: Hashish dealing subsection and heading
(Initiated 2482 days ago on 25 March 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Doug Ford Jr.#RFC: Hashish dealing subsection and heading? Please consider the RfC close of Talk:Doug Ford Jr.#Request for comment: Globe and Mail investigative report in your close. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Already done - the discussion archived without being closed. The filer of the RfC was banned for sockpuppetry, and everyone else moved on. Ivanvector (/Edits) 12:07, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Medicine/Osmosis RfC
(Initiated 2479 days ago on 28 March 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Medicine/Osmosis RfC? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Talk:Cristiano Ronaldo#RfC about statement in the lead section
(Initiated 2479 days ago on 28 March 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Cristiano Ronaldo#RfC about statement in the lead section? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Village pump (policy)#Infobox RFC
(Initiated 2479 days ago on 28 March 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (policy)#Infobox RFC? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Talk:Family of Donald Trump#RfC: What should be included in the infobox?
(Initiated 2477 days ago on 30 March 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Family of Donald Trump#RfC: What should be included in the infobox?? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Talk:Apache OpenOffice#"Moribund" status
(Initiated 2477 days ago on 30 March 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Apache OpenOffice#"Moribund" status? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Talk:Germanic peoples#modern germanic peoples
(Initiated 2476 days ago on 31 March 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Germanic peoples#modern germanic peoples? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Talk:List of most visited museums#Request for comment on list length
(Initiated 2476 days ago on 31 March 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:List of most visited museums#Request for comment on list length? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Talk:Fantastic Mr. Fox (film)#RfC about the cast and plot
(Initiated 2476 days ago on 31 March 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Fantastic Mr. Fox (film)#RfC about the cast and plot? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Talk:Poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal#RFC: Removal of extraneous header
(Initiated 2474 days ago on 2 April 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal#RFC: Removal of extraneous header? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Talk:Neo-Nazism#RfC: on the inclusion of "and implement" in the opening sentence of the article
(Initiated 2472 days ago on 4 April 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Neo-Nazism#RfC: on the inclusion of "and implement" in the opening sentence of the article? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Talk:Kate Mara#Infobox image RfC
(Initiated 2470 days ago on 6 April 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Kate Mara#Infobox image RfC? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Talk:Donald Trump#RfC about birther claim
(Initiated 2470 days ago on 6 April 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Donald Trump#RfC about birther claim? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Wikidata/2018 Infobox RfC
(Initiated 2470 days ago on 6 April 2018) This one's quite complex (sorry!) and controversial, so probably needs multiple admins to close. I've been keeping track of the raw numbers for the !votes at (which could do with double-checking), but obviously the numbers only tell a part of the story here. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:33, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- Since the closure has a potential to be contested, three admins would definitely be a preference.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:02, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Talk:Colt AR-15#RfC: Port Arthur Massacre
(Initiated 2470 days ago on 6 April 2018) Requesting that an uninvolved editor close the RfC as this is a contentious topic. I would ask that the closer review the threaded discussion regarding possible sourcing issues as well. –dlthewave ☎ 01:29, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)/RfC: Ending the system of portals
(Initiated 2468 days ago on 8 April 2018)
- This is a huge discussion that impacts every corner of Misplaced Pages, as such it is going to possibly need multiple closers. I am placing this here as a way to find non involved editors that would be willing to take on the task. This is a new RfC yes, but there is a-lot here to process and digest in the discussion to come up with a conclusion. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:03, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
- I'm happy to take this one on, with others if needed. Mdann52 (talk) 19:26, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
- And, I would be happy to join the bandwagon:) ~ Winged Blades 16:19, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
- Well thanks, while it isn't time to close yet it is good to know people are on board here to help out. =) - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 17:15, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Mdann52 and Winged Blades of Godric:, and any other experienced RFC closers: Please take a look at Misplaced Pages talk:Village pump (proposals)/RfC: Ending the system of portals#How to close and advise (there) on how the closure will likely proceed (and a possible time table). This is one of the largest and most contentious RFCs ever (probably), so some care should be taken on the exact procedure that is followed. - dcljr (talk) 00:56, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
- As I've commented within the RFC, I can't help with the close. In terms of the procedure, though, it's absolutely going to be #4, and I suggest putting a big bold note at the bottom and top of the RFC saying it will be closed on a particular date at least a week in the future, and that the closing summary will be provided within a further week, giving you the time to craft it. Fish+Karate 08:25, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
- I want to echo too that other uninvolved experienced RFC closers are also welcome to join in if you guys need it. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:31, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
- I'm game. Curious to see where it ends. Primefac (talk) 11:55, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
- Note that the 30-day mark of this RfC is rapidly approaching, so someone (e.g., the admin who's thinking of officially closing it?) needs to decide whether to extend it (as explained at WP:RFC#Ending RfCs, in the part about Legobot). I know anyone can extend an RfC, but I'd rather not do it myself. - dcljr (talk) 06:04, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
- The RFC is long and dangly and needs surgical removal rather than extension. Closure is straightforward – nearly all recent !votes are oppose and most of the supports are of the form "Support but do not delete any relevant pages". There is no need to summarise the various opinions. Best simply to thank everyone for their thoughtful contributions. Thincat (talk) 11:46, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Village pump (policy)#Specifying the code of football at first reference in team articles
(Initiated 2465 days ago on 11 April 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (policy)#Specifying the code of football at first reference in team articles? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Talk:Ariana Grande discography#Jason's Song RFC
(Initiated 2455 days ago on 21 April 2018) This is a topic that has gone trough three RfCs, two discussions, and one WP:30 in the last six months. It is not complex or particularly controversial, but the discussion tends to go on and on, but the arguments on each side don't appear to have changed (you can see this in the current thread). An official closure by an uninvolved user is probably necessary to ensure that it doesn't dragged on and on. Requesting a closure at the appropriate time. 青い(Aoi) (talk) 20:46, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Place new discussions concerning RfCs above this line
Deletion discussions
Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 May 1#Richest/Richness
- (Initiated 2477 days ago on 30 March 2018) -- Tavix 15:13, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Done Ivanvector (/Edits) 17:15, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Place new discussions concerning XfDs above this line
Other types of closing requests
Misplaced Pages:Good article reassessment/Mishmar HaEmek/1
(Initiated 2589 days ago on 8 December 2017)
- I can help with the procedural elements of the close once consensus is determined. AIRcorn (talk) 22:20, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Aircorn: @Bolter21: - I'm inclined to give this a couple of days more as per Bolter21's comment, would that be ok? Fish+Karate 13:32, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
- A couple more days wouldn't hurt. AIRcorn (talk) 20:58, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
MediaWiki talk:Watchlist-messages#Signpost
(Initiated 2474 days ago on 2 April 2018)
- Uninvolved closer requested (per Misplaced Pages talk:Misplaced Pages Signpost#After each future issue) - Evad37 02:17, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Closed closed. — xaosflux 18:45, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#"By the media" qualification
(Initiated 2440 days ago on 6 May 2018) Participant in discussion has requested close, as it appears to be in the wrong venue (should have been at NPOV NB) and discussion seems to have run it's course. I was not involved in the discussion. - WOLFchild 18:22, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
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