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Revision as of 10:56, 28 October 2006

Welcome, and thank you for experimenting with the page Phi Beta Kappa Society on Misplaced Pages! Your test worked, and thank you for reverting or removing it yourself. The best way to do tests in the future would be to use the sandbox. You can look at these pages as well: how to edit a page, the tutorial, and how to write a great article. All of these pages are good places to start. Again, thanks, and we hope that you will like Misplaced Pages. -- Avi 04:10, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello there. Apologies for any miscommunication, but when I refer to "vanity" in an edit, I am referring to Misplaced Pages's guideline on the matter. As far as issues of split infinitives go, I am familiar with the MLA's recent granting of their acceptability; nonetheless, as it is a rule that has yet to take hold consistently across the English-speaking world, and as it in no way sacrifices clarity nor is it bad grammar not to split one's infinitive, I opt for sticking with the older grammatical prescription. In doing so, I am trying to bear in mind that the MLA and Bill Bryson are not globally recognized authorities, while English is a very widely spoken language.

With regard to my edits on Granite State Challenge, when I said "it is not unheard of," I meant that it is not unheard of for someone — anyone — to defeat a team single-handedly. The space allowed in the edit summary forced me to be concise, and so I was less clear than I should have been. My point here is that in order to keep Misplaced Pages encyclopedic, editors ought to hold articles of a similar ilk to similar standards. This means that if you're going to mention the incident to which you refer in your GSC edit (despite it being a conflict of interest by Misplaced Pages's standards), all such incidents deserve then to be reported. One might wonder then if every listing every account of every 17 year-old to have a great day behind the buzzer is what Misplaced Pages deems notable. Similarly, you'd have to go into the Misplaced Pages page of every team ever to have won or lost GSC (or any quiz bowl state tournament) and mention the team's W-L record in championship matches.

What it boils down to is this, I think: is the purpose of editing Misplaced Pages to build a better encyclopedia or to make a personal, social, or political point? I realize that these things may not be entirely separable, but I do hope that getting an understanding of the implications of one's edits and the Wikipedian ethos helps.

Finally, I do honestly apologize for at times being overly sweeping and dismissive in my edit summaries; I'll more carefully bear in mind that there are real people behind every edit and entry rather than nameless minions of disinformation. That said, I'm taking a moment or two to redo a small number of my edits, though not all. If other people alter your edits however, do realize that it is not done out of vendetta, but through interpreting a real set of guidelines and a valid notion of what is encyclopedic.

Cheers, Amber388 01:02, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

My point has been made. Do not disturb the Master again.

Granite State Challenge & Alvirne

Thanks for the edit. It had been a while, so I forgot about the third GSC championship. As a senior, I was the high scorer on the second championship in 1994. The team was myself, Sharon Smith(her dad owns Smith Produce on Kimball Hill Road), Ben Sayer, and Rick Osborne (team captain) Scott Fong and Amy Caron were alternates. I was a freshman (didn't play) when the team won their first championship. I remember a guy named Preston Farner was the team captain and high scorer on that team. Haven't been following it much since I graduated ('94). Nice to see the recognition for the teams. I have been working on the Alvirne article for a while. It was my first ever edit (I was still an anon) and have kept an eye on it as a pet project. My next goal is to find good references for everything, since as it stands now, the article is quite open to an AfD should anyone bother to find it. HLN did a great article about 3-4 months ago about the 4-H club opening the school to beat the deadline in the Hill's will. My parents lugged a copy down to Raleigh, NC (where I live now) but I think my wife threw it out. It would be GREAT reference if you could nail it down. Also cool would be other Nashua Telegraph, or HLN articles for references. I don't know if you still live in the area, but setting up some referecnes would REALLY help this article along. Also, the woodsmen's team was always nationally recognized when I was in school. Been over a decade, so I don't know if that is still the case. --Jayron32 04:26, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Granite State Challenge

Your memory is a bit shaky. The first GSC championship team was in 1988-89. Thomas R. Graham was the Captain and high scorer (once scoring 240 points in a game versus Hanover who totalled 210). Mark Masterson, Preston Pfarner and Scott Greenbaum rounded out the first string team. The alternates were Max Tuefferd and Marshall Murray. Don't make me get Miss Lavoie to confirm this, or get the team together or bring out the VCR tape proving this fact. I'll let you guess which one of the original six I am. If you were a senior in 1994, you were a freshman in 1990. The year after the first championship.

I guess you are right. Still, like I said, I haven't followed it much since I graduated myself in 1994. I guess I had more important things in my life since then. I am glad that it was such a highlight in your life though. Keep that torch alive brother. Also, please remember to always SIGN YOUR NAME on talk pages. Use four tildes ~~~~. Also, to begin a new topic on a talk page, use the button to do so.

Welcome to wikipedia, and it is great to see another Bronco here to help with the Hudson and Alvirne pages. Like I said, we need to work on referencing both of these articles. They are vulnerable to deletion, unless we bring them up to snuff with verifiable and reliable sources. If you are a subscriber to the Telegraph, you can research their archives for free online. It would help to get issues, dates, and article names for improving these articles. As close as I hold both of these article articles to my heart (and I do. 90% of the text in both was created by me) they are VERY VULNERABLE to other editors. We have no means to defend any of the information in them as facts unless we can find reliable sources. Editors can justifiably come along and remove whole sections of text or even nominate the articles for deletion unless we can provide good references. Newspaper articles, books, that sort of thing. If you are still close to home, you stand a better chance of finding them. If you find good sources, and are unsure about how to add the references to the pages directly, leave it to me and I can add them. I just need someone to find them. BTW, I still haven't named myself from that 94 team. I did that on purpose. If you want to figure out who I was, it wouldn't be too hard. Ms. Ames (one of the coaches. Forgot the other one) will remember me. Many other teachers will as well. Anonymity is valuable on the internet. People can use your identity against you.

Oh, and I remember Max Tuefford. He was a student teacher my senior year. He was one of my track coaches, and he student taught Ken Johnson's class. If you graduated in 89, you must have known Jen Lavoie, our ONLY Alvirne celeb... Cool... --Jayron32 05:13, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Thenatureboy 05:30, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm a financial services attorney based in South Florida but Hudson, NH will always be home to me. Although I'll only visit in the summer to see my father's grave. Alvirne has a very special place in my heart. Take a peak at the Granite State Challenge wikipedia entry. Some witch from Hanover High kept fooling with it until I had to embarass her with her own stupidity. Have fun in N.C. BTW, How is Hudson's own Playmate these days?

She's a member of the Playboy Extreme Team. Goes on promotional tours and stuff. She's one of Playboys top models and spokespeople, and has been for a long time. For a model, she does very well. Better than most, actually.

Oh, and I looked over the edit war you had with the girl from hanover. Please remember a few things: 1) Always assume good faith (read: WP:AGF) and 2) always provide WP:RS reliable sources, and 3) always assume a WP:NPOV neutral point of view and 4) always WP:NPA avoid personal attacks and 5) always avoid putting WP:AUTO autobiographical information into articles. Please click on the references I added above, and checking out the manual of style WP:MOS would be good too. Getting to know them well will help with becoming a good editor. You are a new editor, so you were not aware of Wikipedias history, culture, and guidelines for editing and for dealing with others. I really would like to keep you around as an editor, but the kind of things that went on could merit a temporary block or even worse from the admins here. You have a lot to offer as an editor, and it would be a shame to see you blocked or banned because you didn't play by the rules. Oh, and you almost have the four tildes thing right. Add them to the end of the comments you make on the talk page. The title of the article can be anything you want. Just type your comments and add the 4 tildes to the END. It puts the little signature with your name and timestamp. --Jayron32 05:44, 28 October 2006 (UTC)