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Talk: Modern American Liberalism Explained

Blaxthos, political articles de facto belong to those with the greatest axe to grind and/or the greatest time on their hands. Weasel words and bad (or no) citations are like chisel and mallet in the hands of these artists as they carve their POV into an article. I respect your boldness in tagging the obvious, but know this: your "bogus" instigation has just placed you toe to toe with a veritable Wiki-Bernini. Tread carefully.

Sorry for being cryptic. It was a warning (kindly meant). That, despite the fact that you are dead right, you must beware of the time and frustration commitment required to keep political philosophy articles scholarly and to a Wiki standard. You must contend with the closet bloggers - who will simply dismiss as "bogus" any notion that the POV in their artcle is disputable.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.16.120.14 (talk • contribs)

Andrew Jackson Jihad

Please review this newest AfD, your opinion would be appreciated. PT 00:42, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

FoxNews RfC/re:bait

I was just joking with the jealousy remark. No problem.

I am only tangentially participating in the RfC. I figured if people were to come to the article, there should be some showing that this is pure sour grapes by one holdout and that editors have reached a consensus. I was going to add my opinion to the RfC list page, but I think that would be against Wiki policy. That's why it's the first comment. Ramsquire 23:58, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for Archiving the Common-Law Talk-Page.

Yes. And thanks for preserving my last comments after you did your archiving, as my work there was/is on-going.

Also, i like you reference to forms of communism which ignore practical reality, I seem unable to view the video linked there-to. Is there any more simple ascii/text or html kinds of explanations of your point?

Thanks again, Charles ...

FNC

I'm well aware of that fact and did, in fact, read the material. But yet the argument was going on and on and degenerating into mere personal attacks at the other person, and showed no sign of stopping. So I thought a definitive vote (which given your consensus you should easily win) would help finish the discussion rather than prolong it. And, to be fair to Cbuhl79, the original RfC concerned a different issue. You may think consensus had been reached over the whole wording; he (rightly or wrongly) disagrees. How do you foresee this argument ending if all he does is repeat his argument, and all you do is say you've already reached consensus. And your edit summary was far from assuming good faith, I might add. Trebor 17:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I think perhaps we have to agree to disagree over this. I think cbuhl is still acting in good faith (based on the tone of his postings) and doesn't think the issue is as cut and dried as you do. The vote I proposed hadn't already occurred - the current intro came after discussion (not a vote) at the end of the last RfC which had began on a different topic. So I don't see how I'm calling for "another" one. You say you'd planned to stop responding, but it had been going on for 5 days already with little progress. If you thought it was 'sour grapes' and not worth replying to, why did you bother responding for that time? And in any case, how was I to know you weren't going to continue ad infinitum - you showed no sign of personally stopping (well, you said "I think at this point further conversation is moot" but then replied twice more). I said earlier that I've thought about the issue and am largely indifferent as to which intro goes in - I'm not going to 'jump' in on a particular side. I'd been following the discussion for several days without commenting and thought it was getting nowhere, so suggested a poll, with agreement in advance to adhere to the result, might break the deadlock. But then you jump on me as if I've done something wrong. You shouldn't be afraid to defend your position, and if you think there was already a vote (an actual poll) on the issue in question can you point me to it because I can't find it.Trebor 07:07, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, he's trying arbitration now (although I suspect it won't be accepted as a case) and I don't want any further part in this. My actions were made in good faith (and in assuming good faith) and I hope you see that, but I won't comment further on the issue.Trebor 20:45, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, apology accepted. :-) Trebor 08:59, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Fox News Request for Arbitration

This is a notice that I have filed a request for arbitration. You are either an editor with which I am in direct dispute, or an editor who has been involved in the discussion.— Preceding unsigned comment added by cbuhl79 (talk • contribs)

Blaxthos, I don't think I've had sufficient involvement in this matter to judge whether there should be an arbitration or not. I'll keep my eye on the proceedings though. --Akhilleus (talk) 20:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Colbert GA Status

Thanks for taking the time to review Stephen Colbert -- I'm not in a rush about GA status, and I really do appreciate the feedback. I've asked a friend to help me copyedit for grammatical errors in particular, and fixed any obvious flaws I could find on that front, including your examples.

With regards to POV and OR, I'd really appreciate examples of any sections or passages that seem problematic to you besides the White House dinner section, which I will work on. OR in particular -- You mentioned that certain thorns stick out, but I think I'm having trouble seeing them because I've been looking at the article for too long. I had intended to work on this a fair amount this week, both cleaning up and expanding a few things (the "early career" section in particular). I'm also interested to know which specific areas you felt needed greater depth of coverage.

Thanks again for your help, -- Bailey 00:38, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

One more quick note -- I just saw your comment about this not being a former GA. I didn't realize I was supposed to leave both templates while renominating, but the article was listed as a GA for 3+ months. It was only delisted three days ago, and I only renom'ed it because the delisting editor indicated her objections were now fixed. Diffs here and here if you're curious. Sorry about the confusion. -- Bailey 06:06, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I appreciate any and all notes I can get. :-) No rush, though. -- Bailey 07:51, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

FNC/ArbCom/Auburn

Well, if I were to make a statement, that is the general idea it would have; that I believe the entire situation is overblown and unworthy of ArbCom's attention. Now more importantly, yes I am an Auburn student. I've been down here a few years now and can't image going anywhere else. Well, until I graduate; no desire to make this home. Love the town, the people, the campus, pretty much everything, but it's just too small-town-Alabama. Although if you haven't been down here in a while, it has definitly grown. AuburnPilot 00:23, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

And since I writing the above, I've left a message stating my opinion on the ArbCom situation. AuburnPilot 00:48, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

I've made a request to Cbuhl to remove his RfArb because of WP:SNOW, I hope he accepts and stops wasting everyone's time. Ramsquire 16:40, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

NPA

Hello, I'm ]. I noticed that you made a comment that didn't seem very civil, so it may have been removed. Misplaced Pages is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on ]. Thank you. Cbuhl79 17:40, 28 October 2006 (UTC)