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Hareb Farooq

Dear Florida, i have recently received a message that the article is being considered for deletion due to lack of susbtantial coverage and cited material. I have improved the article and have added more sources to the page. Please guide me how to save this page for deletion and if it is possible please remove that tag. Thanks. (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hj.hj.hj.hjkk (talk • contribs)

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--Animalparty! (talk) 18:26, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Yes, you may be right @Animalparty, on the other hand that is the name of the appeal of the original case where he was found guilty of the triple murder. I also prefer the focus on the human being involved who suffered the beatings by police and gross miscarriages of justice rather than a title focused on the name of ine of the legal cases that punished him. FloridaArmy (talk) 20:35, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

I went ahead and moved it to the case, as most mentions of Lyons are in reference to the Supreme Court and/or Thurgood Marshall. We should follow reliable sources when possible, not seek to 'right the great wrongs' of history by granting undue emphasis to people or events. This doesn't mean Lyons the person and the events that made him known can't be described in the article (e.g. in a "background" or "defendant section), but that the broader context should be emphasized. Just as we don't have articles for every minor fictional character in a book, we need not have biographies for every name that appears in a Thurgood Marshall biography. --Animalparty! (talk) 22:05, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

We'll have to agree to disagree. The murders and trial were extremely notable. The man at the center of it all is veruly notable. The Supreme Court appeal was just one part of it and as you note a footnote in his career. The grislt murders and man accused and convicted are from my perspective the real story. Have you looked for contemporary coverage? FloridaArmy (talk) 22:27, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

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Ways to improve Larned High School

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Ways to improve John J. Fruin

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Your laughable comments

You wrote "There is a bot that fixes double redirects. Please stop deleting useful redirects as you did for Rose Wood Morrison and elsewhere. Deleting useful redirects is not G6 non controversial cleanup. Please restore this useful redirect of take it to a redirects for deletion discussion if you don't think it's useful. If you don't want to wait for a bot to fix a double redirect you can certaibly do it yourself."

How can a double redirect be "useful"? If you create any more, I will certainly (or even "certaibly", as you put it) delete them. Deb (talk) 06:49, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

A double redirect is simple a redirect that hasn't yet been fixed by a bot to bypass the intermediate redirect page. It is useful for the same reason any redirect is useful. What are you not getting? FloridaArmy (talk) 11:34, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Blaine Young

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Dom from Paris (talk) 09:00, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

He's certainly a public figure and has received VERY substantial coverage in reliable independent sources. Whole articles about him. But given the prostitution conviction I inderstand the sensitivity and desire not to have an article on him. FloridaArmy (talk) 11:36, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Battle of Grave Creek

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Tiffany Zulkosky

You ask "Are there female tribe members serving in the Alaska Legislature outside Alaska? Not being snarky. I might be missing something." Personally, I typically view statements such as that to be a case of grasping at straws to come up with an accolade for someone. Just some general background, Alaska Natives typically don't use the term "tribe" except in a legal sense. This doesn't carry quite the weight it does in other states because SCOTUS decided in Alaska v. Native Village of Venetie Tribal Government that Indian Country is a void concept in Alaska due to the passage of ANCSA. Venetie and neighboring Arctic Village are a special case, as they were established as an IRA reservation sometime around the early 1940s, then chose to accept fee simple title to the reservation's lands rather than participate in the corporation scheme established under ANCSA. That's a little bit of a tangent, but yes, there are tribal organizations, just not quite in the more familiar sense down south. Anyway, there are Native women serving in other state legislatures, which is likely the intent of that particular specificity. Here is one currently serving in the Arizona Senate. My watchlist shows that editors are making a really big deal of Paulette Jordan winning the Democratic nomination for Idaho governor, and she was in the Idaho legislature until leaving to campaign for governor earlier this year. There's a few other states such as New Mexico, Oklahoma and Washington which have strong enough Native constituencies to where it's a pretty good bet that there are others.

My main concern upon seeing this article: there are certain topics in Alaska politics that I try and stay away from because of a possible COI, having been deeply involved in politics behind the scenes during the 1980s and 1990s. Virtually all of the new political biographies created about Alaska politicians the past few years have been persons with ties to a certain political consultant. I've mentioned this elsewhere, but I definitely have a COI as it concerns Chris Birch, a first-term representative who defeated multi-term incumbent Bob Lynn in the primary two years ago and is currently a candidate for Kevin Meyer's seat in the Senate. It makes us appear to be out of touch with reality when Birch's first claim to notability occurred the same year Zulkosky was born, yet no article. There are also other legislators with a more solid basis for notability than Zulkosky who lack articles, apparently for the only reason being that they're white and Republican. So much for NPOV. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 22:38, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. I think members of state legislature are automatically, so to speak, notable, so there shouldn't be a problem creating articles on any of them. What is the preferred terminology for Native Americans in Alaska? Indogenous? Native American? Are they not part of tribes? I will have to read and consider that part of your explanation further. Interesting. FloridaArmy (talk) 22:45, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

The problem I outline with Chris Birch is that he's been my friend for 30+ years, and I've stated as much before, so it's obviously suspect were I to create an article. The pattern of many existing articles also shows plenty of COI, though mostly in the form of legislative staff writing about their bosses. Most admins and other editors who scrutinize that sort of thing take one stance when it comes to content covering the for-profit business sector and entirely the opposite stance if it has to do with the government or non-profit sectors. I prefer to stay away from current legislators as much as I can aside from contributing photos, as we're quite lacking in articles on subjects for which a greater variety of sources are available and a greater basis for notability exists. Putting so much weight on current news headlines leads to short-shelf-life-type POV problems; for example, making a whole lot bigger deal out of Zulkosky's predecessor Zach Fansler than he ended up amounting to being. Then you have the countless one-way judgement pipelines (walled gardens) across the encyclopedia where editors will insist that past legislators aren't notable if they are too far dead or retired to go about hiring a social media consultant to throw their name around certain corners of the web today. We have one editor who stated the following last year about Joshua Wright following his death: "...but having read up on his life as described in the obit, he doesn't seem to pass even basic notability guidelines". Yet, an article exists, with the weakest possible sources imaginable, basically another example of us appearing to portray someone as notable for dying. That editor made other excuses but has not acted on the above statement by nominating the article for deletion. Can you say "paper tiger" (or possibly "full of shit", but that runs into WP:AGF/WP:CIVIL territory)? Good, I knew you could. In reality, Wright was arguably far more notable for being the only African-American practicing dentistry in Alaska for nearly two decades than for being an obscure one-term legislator, according to the sources I've read. Try convincing an editor who spends a lot of time scrutinizing what's on the web today but has probably never picked up a book in their entire lifetime of that, however. Rotsa ruck. You can't have "the sum total of human knowledge", as the famous Jimbo quote goes, when such narrow-minded people have all the time in the world to hang out here and push their agendas.

Back to your question before my head explodes: Alaska Natives are typically referred to as "Native" or "Alaska Native" depending on the context, at least in the bigger cities where many different ethnic groups coexist. There's also "Eskimo" and "Indian", except that the PC crowd is out to eradicate those terms plus others such as "Chief". Usually, they insert "Inuit" in place of "Eskimo", except that in an Alaskan context, "Inuit" typically refers to indigenous peoples of Greenland and far northern Canada. The ones from major ethnic groups will also frequently refer to themselves by those names (e.g. Aleut, Inupiaq, Koyukon, Tlingit, Yupik, etc.). The closest we come to tribes are with non-profit organizations on the local level, which will either use the term "tribe" as part of the organization's name or the term "tribal" to refer to some or all of its functions. There are also tribal courts. As far as I know, these are loosely overseen by the state court system in much the same way that youth courts are. In other words, I don't believe any of them have sovereignty as a court. Tribal courts mostly deal with child welfare cases, which are sealed in state courts, and operate in communities lacking local media outlets, so it's kinda hard to get good information. There was a tribal court conference here last week. I was hoping to stop by mainly to get photos of Joel Bolger and Jahna Lindemuth, but I suppose that I might have learned something about the system as well had I attended. Hope all this helps. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 23:56, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

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Lebanon Woolen Mills

Hello. Thank you for your good work on stemmery. Would you be interested in adding more about the labor history the Lebanon Woolen Mills please?Zigzig20s (talk) 12:57, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Battle of Bloody Hills

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Indeed. Misnamed. My mistake. I blanked it for speedy deletion. FloridaArmy (talk) 20:31, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Town Sports listed at Redirects for discussion

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Deletion discussion about Peleg Chandler

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Bradford Ropes

Hi FloridaArmy. When creating pages, would you please:

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Look, you don't have to do this but it's polite to do so, and you should neither need nor expect other editors to regularly clean up after you. Clean up for good faith new editors is enough of a grind. More haste less speed please. HydroniumHydroxide 07:45, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Betty Bartley

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I think I fixed it. FloridaArmy (talk) 18:46, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Your error in relation to Adele Lacy

The reference reads "Futter was married once before, in 1927, to Patricia Elizabeth Murphy, they divorced a few years later." This was before he married Lacy, thus she was his second wife. Deb (talk) 13:24, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Our entry reads: "She was married twice, first to director Walter Futter and then to movie still photographer Madison S. Lacy." Nothing is said about Walter Futter's previous marriage. You've reinserted your error repeatedly. You also turned one of my articles into a circular redirect. You've also improperly deleted useful redirects I created as G6.

I'm pretty patient and try to be helpful but you've been exceptionally nasty to me and disruptive. Your improper speedy deletion of my article was overturned unanimously and you were reprimanded. Why are you still stalking me and causing problems? Go help Sitush. He needs it. FloridaArmy (talk) 13:35, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

If you do not want me here, don't talk about me here. I've not looked at the above example but you're making far, far too many mistakes and wasting far too much of other people's time with sloppy editing. - Sitush (talk) 15:08, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

As I've requested you to steer clear you shouldn't be talking about me elsewhere. Stones and glass houses don't you know. And it's funny you say I make a lot of mistakes, because I tried to help you with some of yours but you weren't interested so I moved on. You've done a lot of sloppy work. But different strokes for different folks. Thanks for respecting my request that you stay off my talk page. The mistake noted above was Deb's so I'm glad we got it fixed. I also fixed some other errors she introduced. FloridaArmy (talk) 15:12, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

No, you are welcome on my talk page. I've never banned you from it and you can comment in response to anything or indeed start a new thread. I would be interested to know of my mistakes, my "sloppy work" etc. Just be aware that there are a lot of very experienced contributors who watch that page so if you screw up there you are likely to get into more trouble than you are doing here. So check your facts first. - Sitush (talk) 18:20, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

If the Wordpress site is correct (which it could be, despite not being usable as an RS, or even providing any good references to RS), then the order of husbands listed at Adele Lacy is incorrect: Madison Lacy was first, and Walter Futter was second, and Adele Lacy (retaining her ex's surname as her stage name) was Futter's second wife after Patricia Elizabeth Murphy. HydroniumHydroxide 10:43, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I think you are correct. Please make the change or I will do so when I can. FloridaArmy (talk) 13:00, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

You've been counseled many times about creating articles with flimsy sourcing. This was your article when you finished with it on May 18. The AfD was submitted on May 22, more than enough time for you to have finished your work. Instead, others have finished it for you, which is great! Your account is old enough and you have enough edits to apply for access to Newspapers.com through WP:TWL (One requirement is that you not be currently blocked, so you will need to wait at least until your block expires). I strongly recommend you apply for access with that service and any other services that might be helpful. Your enthusiasm is great, but there is nothing in WP:BEFORE that requires a user to search newspapers.com for an individual, and it is frustrating to deal with your work. Your superior attitude (for instance) compounds this. Relationships between editors is important, and I have working relationships with many editors with whom I have a fundamental disagreement with as regards to what makes an article suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. I've written articles on much less important figures than Lacy or Spicer that, in spite of my many imperfections as an editor, have shown adequate sourcing and tone that they are not contributed to AfD. As you continue to have pages proposed for discussion or deletion, I hope you take it as a sign that you have lots to improve in your editing, because it certainly isn't a sign that any editors have any problem with you personally. Smmurphy 16:14, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

I have a read what you've written a couple times and will consider it carefully. At the risk of seeming argumentative, may I ask if you think what you linked to above was a bad start to an article? Perhaps from your comments I should conclude so. Certainly misordering her marriages wasn't ideal. You've been very helpful and I appreciate your efforts so I don't want to be argumentative. But I do take ossue woth some of your points such as the idea that articles should be finished after a few days. I guess the problem is I fundamentally disagree that articles should emerge finished. I see Misplaced Pages and its articles as works in progress. So that article stub you libked to looks to me like an article off to a great start. A welxome addition. And I don't.see those adding content loke that as the problem or time wasters. Those who take those articles to deletion and fight to eliminate what isn't perfected or finished are in my opinion the problem. Please always free to scold me or offer advice. Obviously my editing has upset some people. On the other hand I've received thanks and barnstars from others. It's hard to please everyone but I certainly understand your points and frustrations. I would love to do better. FloridaArmy (talk) 16:47, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Consider Misplaced Pages:Your first article, in particular, the bolded question in the introduction: "does this topic belong in an encyclopedia?" which is followed with an explanation: "We generally judge this by asking if there are at least three high-quality sources that a) have substantial discussion of the subject (not just a mention) and b) are written and published independently of the subject ... Everything here is based on high-quality independent sources, and without them, we generally just cannot write an article..." An article in the mainspace absolutely should emerge in a form that makes it somewhat clear that a topic belongs in an encyclopedia. There are exceptions to the idea that three high-quality sources are necessary. I have issues with how SNG and GNG are used. But I hope you do keep improving! Best, 16:56, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Newell W. Spicer for deletion

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May 2018

Nomination of Adele Lacy for deletion

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AFC

Hi, sorry you got a block, its best to avoid arguments if possible and if you get annoyed take a break instead of responding.(ive had a few arguments lately and they wear me out). Thanks for your AFD contributions, have you considered reviewing at Articles for Creation as they have a big backlog, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 14:17, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Atlantic 30, I have considered it but I already feel a bit overhwoemed trying to keep up with article deletions discussion and my own article work. That's not to say I wouldn't be glad to lend a hand onany specific projects if I can be of help. Take care. FloridaArmy (talk) 17:03, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

William Henry Harrison (Georgia)

Hi,

There was already an article for Harrison at William Henry Harrison (state legislator), which has a little more specific, so I merged (and added to) your article into that one.

Thanks for the information. From what I read about him in various sources, he's an interesting man!–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:21, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the note and for merging. I don't think that page was included on the disambiguation page, which should be updated with the actual article name (although a redirect as least gets people to the right place). One issue or question is whether he ever actually served as a state legislator. I believe African Americans were blocked from serving by their colleagues in the state legislatures after that election. It's difficult and troubling subject matter. And it's sad we don't know more about these leaders and what became of them. FloridaArmy (talk) 21:17, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi,

I don't think he served - or at least not much. He and Barnes were denied their seats initially. I wondered about putting that in and information about Harrison's reporting of voting irregularities (colored republicans denied voting, some that did vote had their ballots ripped up), etc.

I am not thinking that he lived real long... the only person that I could find in a census was a married man who did not write (found in testimony that he could read, but not write) in 1870. (Since the Klan was very active... and he testified against them in 1871 or shortly after, I wonder if there might have been mischief involved.) I couldn't find anything more in official records about him after that. There is a lovely article about him that I used in a reference from the Reflections newsletter.–CaroleHenson (talk) 21:30, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Jan H. Gardner for deletion

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Speedy deletion nomination of Rayart Pictures

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A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	Dear FloridaArmy, thank you for your contributions to Misplaced Pages, especially your recent creation of Rayart Pictures. Keep up the good work! You are making a difference here! With regards, Anupam 20:56, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you so much Anupam!!! A lot of work still to do but there are lots of interesting early cinema subjects to cover. FloridaArmy (talk) 16:18, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Wellyn Totman for deletion

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How can we connect?

You left a message about helping with an article I am trying to get published. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JoJosh3131 (talk • contribs) 14:10, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

My suggestion was to add reliably sourced content to the article on the company he heads. I'm not sure what you mean by "connect" but I'm happy to answer any questions you have here or on your talk page. Misplaced Pages has policies regardIng people with connections to an article subject at WP:COI. FloridaArmy (talk) 14:24, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Walter Futter

Hello,

Thanks for your addition to the lead for the Walter Futter article. Do you have a source for your addition? Any time you add new content not already in the article, a source is needed. See MOS:LEADCITE. And, any claims, like "best known" need citations.–CaroleHenson (talk) 15:08, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

I believe it's largely covered in the article. Which part of it are you disputing? FloridaArmy (talk) 15:27, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

1) "His most well known work" and 2) "which combined footage filmed in the field mixed with staged Hollywood set pieces and comedic quips".

Both of which are good points... and I think I have read in two different newspapers. I just don't remember where.–CaroleHenson (talk) 15:30, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Here's some coverage of how Africa Speaks was made with spliced footage. I've seen it noted elsewhere as well but a quick search and scan didn't turn up the source. The expedition was funded by a media tycoon in Demver and the expedition was at least a few years before the film so the "partnering" wording needs fixing. As far as the most wrll known I eill have to take a look. Ot spawmed a Disney film and Abbott and Costello feature. Just noting that wouldnbe fine with me. But I will see what I can find for it being his best known work. FloridaArmy (talk) 15:50, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

I reworded to "had success with". One of the sources notes it was profitable with Columbia, it spawned the RKO sequel India Speaks, imitation films, etc. iMDB said it's his best known work and I believe that's true but I can't find solid sourcing for the assertion. This source calls it a popular film. FloridaArmy (talk) 16:01, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Ok, I will take a look at those sources.

As an FYI, there are a couple of really good tools for formatting citations. Misplaced Pages:ProveIt can be used for any kind of citation, you just fill in the fields and then press "insert" at the insertion point and the tool will insert a beautifully formatted citation. There is also . You just copy in the link for a google books source, verify that you have the right page number and it formats a lovely citation for a google book. Love them!–CaroleHenson (talk) 17:15, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Using the query (and other queries), I am still not finding anything about being parts filmed on Hollywood sets. And, I didn't find it in the source you mentioned. Can you help find a source? Maybe I've been using the wrong search criteria.

Thanks for the sources for "popular"; I added that.–CaroleHenson (talk) 17:51, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it's covered in that source on pages 137 and 138. Try this link? FloridaArmy (talk) 17:57, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

I am not seeing anything there about narration or about part of the film being made on Hollywood sets/stage. I know that I saw it in a newspaper, but I am not finding it now - and there are hundreds of articles about the film. Argh!–CaroleHenson (talk) 18:02, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Aaaahhhhh, thanks for the addition! I kept reading for Hollywood sets and totally missed it! I made some edits to the wording and combined the two same-source citations. See what you think.18:30, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Categories

When writing articles, please make sure to place them in the appropriate categories. Eg. for a bio, births and {year} deaths. ~EDDY ~ 16:09, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the note Eddy. When you add cats you use an automated feature? I've had a lot of trouble trying to do them in the past. Including having ones I added removed by other editors. I'd rather leave it to experts truth be told. FloridaArmy (talk) 16:16, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

I use HotCat at times for adding categories. You can install it if you read the WP article. Not sure how you had trouble adding categories, it's pretty simple and can be done manually. It's NOT something to be left to the experts, anyone can do it. Use the guide I set before. For films you can do films] or the like. ~EDDY ~ 16:27, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Pardon the interuption, but I think I know what she means. It is sometimes hard to get the correct category. Sometimes there are more apt subcategories... and sometimes it's a little difficult to find the correct name for a category. Easy ones are years films are made, like EDDY mentioned. Another two easy ones are births] and deaths].

Right now, focusing on properly cited content seems like the best area of focus.–CaroleHenson (talk) 17:21, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

B-Line Trail

Hi,

Thanks for the new article about B-Line Trail in Bloomington, Indiana. I see that the article is tagged because there is only one source.

Do you have other sources, by chance, for the article?–CaroleHenson (talk) 14:17, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

• I believe this source documents some federal funding the trail got. this article has coverage related to it as does this one covering a proposed extension. FloridaArmy (talk) 14:23, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
  • I am not able to read these. The first one is a snippet, and besides that doesn't state that the B-line trail is in Bloomington (i.e., there could be another trail of that time in another city). The second and third are articles that can only be read by subscription users.--–CaroleHenson (talk) 14:37, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

It tried to add an article on the raole line and trail's pollution history but had trouble becaise the link address was blocked. I tried trimming the google part but now the link doesn't work. Perhaps searching Brownfield and B-Line trail you can find it? Indeed there do seem to be other B-Line trails so perhaps disambogiation is warranted. I saw one in Cali and I believe one in Pacifoc Northwest. FloridaArmy (talk) 14:40, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

I am a little confused. How are you reading the article if you cannot see it? I get a 404 article on your 3rd source. Do you have a subscription for the second source? The content has to be verifiable. (Although, if you do have a subscription and can read the entire article, then it passes - because someone else with a subscription or access to a hard copy could verify it.)–CaroleHenson (talk) 14:49, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

I can see it. I'm just having trouble linking to it on Misplaced Pages. Did you try Googling "B-Line Trail bloomington brownfield"? FloridaArmy (talk) 14:53, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

I don't understand the problem... or what you are asking. Here's the query for the search parameters you mentioned .

The first result I grt from that query is the pdf file I'm talking about. Thats2 the one that has a broken reference link in the article.FloridaArmy (talk) 15:03, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

I tried searching on the source site, but it just keeps spinning and not providing results. So, I ran a queury with EPA B-Line Bloomington Indiana and came up with this. Does this work?

I added some potential sources on Talk:B-Line Trail.–CaroleHenson (talk) 15:01, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

The pdf file has a lot more details on the history and pollution, but that source works for a bit on funding of cleanup. FloridaArmy (talk) 15:14, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Two thoughts: 1) maybe you will have been luck searching the original source site: https://www.in.gov (my computer is still spinning on the search) or 2) just include the information from the source you can find right now.–CaroleHenson (talk) 15:18, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Bloomington Rail Trail

This is another one source article.

It's absolutely your perogative to create bare-bone articles with just one source, but it would be really nice to round out the articles rather than leaving a string of tagged articles, or articles nominated for deletion.

It will help your Misplaced Pages street-cred quite a bit to work on creating articles that are at least start level articles with 3+ sources with notable content.–CaroleHenson (talk) 15:15, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Every article has to start somewhere. I don't think I leave many articles with one source. But redlinks can get removed so sometimes as stubby start at least gets a foothold. FloridaArmy (talk) 15:19, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Ah, ok. Well, your viewpoint is pretty clear.

I may stick around and work on adding more to your articles, from past experience it is extremely tiring to do this with people who aren't really interested in learning and making better articles. It becomes a seemingly never-ending effort.–CaroleHenson (talk) 16:17, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Almost every article I stumble on needs work of some kind. Please focus on articles and areas you enjoy! This is a volunteer project. FloridaArmy (talk) 17:10, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

That's exactly the point! There are a lot of articles that need work, and it's discouraging when a single user is creating lots of articles that need work rather than trying to make them at least fair "stub" or "start" articles that don't need a lot of work. I do enjoy historical biographies, as an example, so I will work on those that interest me and tag the articles that need work. I guess there is nothing more that needs to be said.–CaroleHenson (talk) 17:51, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Siddharth Kumar Tewary moved to draftspace

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Chester W. Keatts moved to draftspace

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May 2018

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