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:I'll worry about what the Irish, Northern or otherwise, think when they start calling the Irish Sea the Irish and British Sea. No wonder my ancestors fled Ireland! - ] (]) 04:08, 31 July 2018 (UTC) :I'll worry about what the Irish, Northern or otherwise, think when they start calling the Irish Sea the Irish and British Sea. No wonder my ancestors fled Ireland! - ] (]) 04:08, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

No one calls it the British Sea (with or without the Irish prefix). Literally no one. It's always been the Irish Sea, and pretty sure it always will be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10 has a decent explanation about the relationship and naming of all the entities that collectively make up the British Isles. It's worth watching even if you still disagree about the facts.

But getting back to my original question, it sounds like the standard to be applied on wikipedia is to be 'correct' according to some North Americans' opinions and views of the world, not actually correct; and the citizenry of the places being discussed should 'get over it'. Is that an accurate and fair summary?

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Thanks!

Thanks for helping me with that issue. I wasn't feeling too good about it yet did it anyway. Your clarification helped out a lot! Thanks again!--TheTexasNationalist99 (talk) 00:58, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

You're most welcome. - BilCat (talk) 01:03, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Autocannon

Back in 2015 we had a lengthy argument about autocannons both in your talk page and on the Cannons talk page. In summary, I firmly believe that the vast majority of the world uses "autocannons" even in countries that use "cannon" as plural. At the end, you stopped reverting my edits and it has been fine for three years. It was hinted by another editor that sometimes a compromise is necessary, and that someone may have asked you to leave it be, as long as I didn't try to change cannon to cannons on the Cannon page. Unfortunately I did not save that e-mail, since I thought this was a done deal. This is really a big deal to me. Can you please just let the autocannon page be? --Trifler (talk) 03:41, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

I honestly don't remember any such agreement, though I may well have left it alone for that time. Agreements need to be in Wikispace, preferably with some notice on the talk pages involved for future reference. Feel free to re-litigate the issue on one of the article's or WPMILHIST's talk page if it's that big a deal to you, and we'll see where the current consensus lies. - BilCat (talk) 03:50, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Attention needed (vandalism)

Greetings! Dear BilCat, as I'm not a frequent guest here, I would like to draw your attention to the following issue. Some pages related to the cars of Eastern Europe have been attacked by a vandal similar or identical to "Bandera Isuzu" who adds factually incorrect, blatantly false sentences, claiming that every car was "reverse-engineered" or "copied" from another one, despite the fact that they were built under license, in cooperation, etc. It seems he is either a sock of "Bandera Isuzu" or another notorious vandal that was blocked a dozen times for adding the same nonsense. If you can -- and you're great at protecting pages from vandals, -- please help to protect those articles from his vandalism and add them to your watchlist. Any help is much appreciated. Here are his IP and a list of attacks: . 118.70.184.63 (talk) 22:26, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for contacting me. Yup, that's certainly "Joe Bandera" (I've dropped calling him "Isuzu" so as not to tarnish the brand's name). I've been watching his (or her) edits since 2015, and those that you found fit his pattern, as does his IP location. Unfortunately, I'm not an administrator on Misplaced Pages, so I don't have the ability to apply page protection to articles or block users. Most of the time, he only edits in short spurts, so it's usually not something an admin will block or protect for, as his IP address usually changes by the his edit session. We usually just revert on sight, and keep the articles clean of his nonsense. - BilCat (talk) 02:57, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

...but why ^^

Hi BilCat I don't understand the reason why you deleted my addition under "CAF disambiguation", concerning the Compagnie Aérienne Française, a nowadays disappeared french airline. May you just tell me a little more ? Read you with pleasure Nicolas HEITZ-BRANDT (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:39, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

@Nicolas HEITZ-BRANDT: Because DAB pages are only for existing Misplaced Pages articles. - BilCat (talk) 16:24, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Someone messed up this article real bad

Bill, I literally got a headache and a lol from reading the reference section of Stealth aircraft. Who screwed up the links? Oh man.... --Dave 18:18, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Northern Ireland

Hey mate,

Can you let me know why you've now twice reverted my corrections on the page about 'British English'?

FYI, Northern Ireland is not part of Britain (with or without the 'Great'), yet the R-Dropping section of that page incorrectly implies that it is. This isn't a matter of opinion or point of view or politics, it is a simple geographical fact - Great Britain is an island which encompasses England, Wales, Scotland; Northern Ireland is on a different island. https://en.wikipedia.org/Great_Britain explains this in more detail.

Perhaps the author had meant to say 'United Kingdom' instead of 'Britain'.

Anyway, how should I go about getting this error corrected?

looking forward to hearing from you.

Britain commonly means the United Kingdom. My advice would be to get over it. - BilCat (talk) 03:19, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

So you're saying accuracy of the information is not really important? That we can have 'alternative facts'?

Britain being conflated with the United Kingdom is indeed a common mistake - in America. Let's please not dumb this down to the level of the lowest common denominator.

No, because it's not a mistake, any more than conflating America with United States is a mistake, as many Latin Americans believe. See Britain.

I think you'll find that the residents of Northern Ireland would disagree.

And what makes you think I meant United States when I said America? This is a mistake that even Trump makes continuously.

Neither are mistakes, though certain minor groups make a lot noise about them. - BilCat (talk) 04:08, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Also you might want to read the first section at https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Britain where this misusage of Great Britain is called out. Perhaps someone already tried to get this corrected but couldn't get it past some editors who think they know better. :-/

I'll worry about what the Irish, Northern or otherwise, think when they start calling the Irish Sea the Irish and British Sea. No wonder my ancestors fled Ireland! - BilCat (talk) 04:08, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

No one calls it the British Sea (with or without the Irish prefix). Literally no one. It's always been the Irish Sea, and pretty sure it always will be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10 has a decent explanation about the relationship and naming of all the entities that collectively make up the British Isles. It's worth watching even if you still disagree about the facts.

But getting back to my original question, it sounds like the standard to be applied on wikipedia is to be 'correct' according to some North Americans' opinions and views of the world, not actually correct; and the citizenry of the places being discussed should 'get over it'. Is that an accurate and fair summary?