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Hi! I’m a bit new here, still trying to figure out the ropes 😁. I was wonder how can I protect a page? I’ve had to return to the Murad IV page multiple times because people continue to vandalize it and leave false information. That’s no the only one too, it’s starting to get a bit frustrating.. Thank you in advance! (Darling dearest (talk) 03:20, 3 July 2018 (UTC)) Darling dearest (talk) 03:20, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

@Darling dearest: Hi, and thanks for the message. Only administrators have the actual ability to protect pages from being edited. However, anyone is able to request that a page be protected at WP:RPP. In the case of the Murad IV page, it seems that it's only 1 IP who's made any edit that was reverted in the last 2 weeks, so it probably wouldn't be worth protecting. If that one IP is adding false information, there are a number of warnings that you can put on the user's talk page, which can be found here. In this circumstance, I recommend starting with {{subst:uw-error1}}, and if they continue, progress to {{subst:uw-error2}}. I hope this helps, and please let me know if you have any other questions!--SkyGazer 512 12:37, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

(moved from the top of the page)

you are doing a good job!— Preceding unsigned comment added by About to be band (talk • contribs) 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! You seem to be doing this to a lot of users and bot-like speeds, though, so I guess I won't take this as anything special. :P--SkyGazer 512 22:16, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

FYI: They're a sockpuppet. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:36, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Good to know, thx. Don't know why they were doing that, though. The only thing I can think of is that maybe they know about extended confirmed protection, and were trying to work up enough edits to get it. They ended up only getting up to 50, though, before they got blocked. :)--SkyGazer 512 15:43, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

There's no telling what motivates people like that, but I suspect that with that account name (About to be band) they were just being disruptive for the sake of being disruptive. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:50, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	Thanks for the tip about my userpage! AnaSoc (talk) 01:15, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

@AnaSoc: Thank you very much for the barnstar - always happy to help! :)--SkyGazer 512 02:17, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

AfC - decline based on the main reason

Hi. I saw your decline of Draft:Learntek. That's the right decision, and it is true that there are no references in the article and it would need them. However the main issue is whether the subject is notable or not. If you decline based on notability then the message to the submitter includes advice about proper references. In the case of Learntek, the risk is that the author spends time adding references that verify what is written, but they don't receive any advice about notability so when they resubmit, the draft is declined for a new reason. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 15:01, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Oh, and another tip: when you come across an article about a company such as this that looks like thinly veiled WP:PROMO, if you check the page history and there's only one contributor, as in this case, and that one contributor has only contributed to one article, as in this case, then you're looking at a WP:SPA that probably has a conflict of interest. If the editor has used their own name as their username then you can Google that and it will often show that they work for the company. If you come across that, which happens often, and they've not made a declaration on their user page then you can use the tag {{uw-paid1|Draft:Learntek}} on their talk page, as I've done now at User_talk:Tatavarthi_Anusha#Learntek. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 15:13, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

@Curb Safe Charmer: I appreciate you taking the time to give me these tips. Although I obviously agree with your conclusions, I had thought improperly sourced should be used when there are no sources to look at to see whether the article is notable or not, and the notability one is for when the article has sources, but they do not demonstrate notability.--SkyGazer 512 15:27, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

The notability decline will produce this guidance for the user:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Misplaced Pages requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of people,  the golden rule and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Misplaced Pages:Referencing for beginners and Help:Introduction to referencing/1), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Misplaced Pages at this time.

So it covers both bases. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 15:35, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

@Curb Safe Charmer: Well, that is true. :) So do you think it's better to use the notability decline notice when there are no sources at all instead of the unsourced/improperly sourced one?--SkyGazer 512 15:39, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Yes. If you think that, based on the subject and content, notability would be in question then go for that one first. In my experience, less than 10% of articles we decline for notability are ever edited further, and they end up being deleted after six months of inactivity. That is because of people thinking Misplaced Pages is for free advertising, and they don't realise there would be anyone vetting new articles against inclusion criteria. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 15:45, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Alright, I'll do that when I can in the future. Thanks!--SkyGazer 512 15:50, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

List disco

Sorry, I did not intend to create that article. It was an accident. -- Tirkon (talk) 15:17, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Understandable - not a problem. :)--SkyGazer 512 16:15, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Need to remove my photo from Commons

Hi SkyGazer,

Can you help, or put me in touch with the right person? I need to remove an image from Wiki Commons.

I have loaded an image into Wiki Commons at: https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:O%27Connor_Sculpture_%26_Book.jpg.

However, after re-reading the Copyright Act, I now understand that I need permission from the artist's estate, to publish an image of her work, even though the photo is mine and I owned the sculpture at the time of taking the photo.

Please can you remove it or tell me how to do so?

Many thanks,SurveyorMJF (talk) 00:34, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

@SurveyorMJF: I'm not an admin here or on the commons, so I can't actually delete anything (nor can you), but I do think I can tell you what I know as well as provide you with some links. You can view the Criteria for speedy deletion on the commons here. Unfortunately, general criteria 7 (author's request) won't work, because it was uploaded over a week ago. There are several criteria for file-specific speedy deletion, such as copyright violations and licensing laundering, but I'm not sure which would work well in this situation... it may be better to try to get in contact with a Commons admin directly and explain the situation. You can find a list of these here. There is a Commons help desk, so if you want to first post a new topic there you might get some helpful replies.--SkyGazer 512 13:25, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you SkyGazer. That is very helpful. I have written on the Talk page of Jarrah Tree, who is an Commons Admin and often helps me. But my message has gone to his/her Archived Talk page, so I don't know if it will be seen. Could you possibly mention that Jarah Tree, for me? Thanks again, for your kind help. SurveyorMJF (talk) 19:55, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

@SurveyorMJF: Hmm, to me it looks like you posted it on the normal talk page and it's still there - I'm not seeing that it's been archived or anything. commons:User talk:JarrahTree. I'll ping JarrahTree to this discussion, though.--SkyGazer 512 00:01, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

hmmm, looks crazy to me... will consult someone who has better understanding. JarrahTree 04:15, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks guys for all your assistance. Crazy but true - in Australia the copyright for a work of art is a separate property right to the ownership of the work itself. This is not posing a problem for me in the current case - the owners of the copyright are in the process of giving me permission to publish my photo of the sculpture.

More info at: https://www.copyright.org.au/ACC_Prod/ACC/Information_Sheets/Artists___Copyright.aspx?WebsiteKey=8a471e74-3f78-4994-9023-316f0ecef4ef SurveyorMJF (talk) 07:48, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

BTW, that restriction does not apply to works of art that are "public" - e.g. on display in public places.

Could the image in question please be taken down. I'll upload another, when the written permission gets to be from the copyright owners. Very sorry for the fuss. I live and learn! ... SurveyorMJF (talk) 02:52, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

PERM

Hi. PERM is not an RfA style discussion and commenting is generally reserved for admins. Also,many users never check back to see why their request has been declined. However, if you were to consider leaving a message on the users talk page, it would be much appreciated. Happy editing! Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:06, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Kudpung, I am aware that PERM is not at all RfA-style, and non-admins generally don't need to comment on whether a user's request will be done, not done, or when they think the candidate should come back to request at PERM, etc. However, I wasn't doing that here. The user was saying that they wanted to improve Misplaced Pages by making it a more reliable source. All I was doing is pointing out that there are endless ways that they can do this without the NPR right. Of course, if you think even that's non-helpful, I can refrain from doing it - but I was just thinking that the user may be unsure of what they can do without NPR, so I was trying to helpfully inform them, and I really didn't think it would hurt anything. I guess are you thinking that next time something like that should always go on their talk page? That would be okay with me, it would just be nice to clarify. :)--SkyGazer 512 13:08, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

For that very reason (keeping NAC off the page), two years ago, I had a very sophosticated bot developed for PERM by a software engineer to take care of all but the research and decision the admin needs to make. It even has a built-in script for accordind or rejecting with canned responses. Your comment is extremely helpful - but on the user's talk page please. It will have the most impact there. He needs it too, there was so much CIR, he hadn't even read the basic instructions. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 20:56, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Recreation of deleted material

Just curious, is there a relevant CSD tag for deleted articles re-created with the same content? --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 14:32, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Tyw7 - are you talking about ones that were deleted via AfD or CSD? If it was deleted via AfD and recreated after the closure, then G4 applies. There's not a template in specific for recreation of material deleted via CSD - but often the reason for the original deletion applies. You've already added the CSD template for the original reasons for deletion (G11 and A7), in this case.--SkyGazer 512 14:38, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Fair enough. I was just wondering if there's a more specfic tag for re-created articles. And I was talking about CSD as in the case of IKASI--Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 14:41, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

There isn't a more specific tag for speedy deleted articles that were recreated AFAIK, but there's not any problem with tagging the page for the previous reasons for speedy deletion, as long as they still apply. For example, if an article is speedy deleted per A7 and is recreated with very similar content, there's not really any benefit to tagging it with a criteria for "recreation of material that was speedy deleted" than there is just tagging it for A7 again. Also, if an article has been recreated multiple times, you can use {{Salt}}, to alert admins that the title probably should be protected from creation as well, once it's deleted. Hope this helps.--SkyGazer 512 14:46, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

NCORP and GNG

To be a bit pedantic, NCORP is really just an elaboration of GNG in an organization/company specific context. Both GNG and NCORP require significant coverage in reliable independent secondary sources. This is unlike SNGs, e.g. WP:NSPORT, which are designed to offer a "shortcut" to establishing notability through some accomplishment. If a page passes NCORP it's going to pass GNG too basically by definition (in my reading). Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:06, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

There are some alternate criteria for WP:NCORP, but a lot of them are just variations on WP:GNG or reference another notability guideline instead. However, I did see a few guidelines that could possibly, in rare cases, allow for organizations to pass NCORP without pass GNG. Due to this, I thought it would just be helpful to specify that the specific article in question (IKASI) does not meet any of the criteria necessary to pass NCORP or GNG. But for the most part, you are probably right that if an orginization does not meet GNG, it's unlikely to meet NCORP.--SkyGazer 512 15:18, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

AirplaneHijackHacker

How about we sort out the sock's edits after they've been blocked? At this point, I will revert any changes they make. General Ization 00:40, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi General Ization - if you think it should be re-reverted due to the fact that they probably are a sock after all, I hold no objections to you reverting my revert. I do agree that it seems likely that they are a sockpuppet, but the specific edit was actually constructive. Anyways, they've now been blocked indefinitely for disruptive editing.--SkyGazer 512 00:57, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Apologies for the terse comment. AirplaneHijackHacker is very likely a sock of SpicyCrazyJerk PornSexAssButtPiss (and a CU is looking into it). My point was that the numerous, ill-advised moves and changes the editor was making rendered any decision about the correct destination for a redirect moot until those changes were unwound and made consistent. The best approach at that late stage was to immediately undo any changes they made (even if some were later restored) so as to reduce the overall damage that needed ultimately to be fixed. General Ization 01:03, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

I completely understand why you would do that and I agree. However, I don't see any problem with restoring the edit if another editor (me in this case) just happens to notice that it's a helpful edit. As for the SPI, I personally actually don't think check user evidence would be necessary -  it looks like a duck to me. But I guess it's always better to look into matters further, just to be safe, especially if it doesn't hurt to do so. Cheers, --SkyGazer 512 01:17, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Bot Request

Now filed - Misplaced Pages:Bots/Requests_for_approval#RonBot_8. Now we wait for a BAG member to approve a trial. I'll let you know when, as you will need to stop removing dates manually! Ronhjones  00:16, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Ronhjones. It will definitely be nice for those date headers to automatically be removed, assuming the BRFA succeeds. Be sure to let me know if you need me to do anything here.--SkyGazer 512 00:21, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Approved for one run - Misplaced Pages:Reference_desk/Mathematics looks like a candidate. Can't run until Scsbot has been. almost 2am here, will run tomorrow pm (if the page is OK for change) Ronhjones  00:49, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Bot approved Misplaced Pages:Bots/Requests for approval/RonBot 8 (had to revert an edit by user:MarnetteD, so there was at least one page to work on!) Since Scsbot is a bit vague as to when he will add the next day, I've set Windoze Schedule Tasks to run it a 6am (UK) every day. Note that I wrote it to take out all unused dates (not just the previous day) - so if the PC throws a fit or similar, it will catch up the next day. Ronhjones  14:35, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks again! I definitely think it will be appreciated, not having to remove those dates manually.--SkyGazer 512 14:52, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you so much for helping me with the newly created article on Mary Locke Petermann! I'm still pretty new to Misplaced Pages and really appreciate the help. Biochemlife (talk) 18:03, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the barnstar, Biochemlife! And great job with the article, it's coming along very nicely. I appreciate users who are able to create long, good-quality articles such as this one, probably because I'm not very good at doing so myself. Let me know if you need my help with anything. Cheers, --SkyGazer 512 18:28, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! Just doing what I can one bit at a time... Biochemlife (talk) 18:38, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks

About two weeks late: Thanks for the Barnstar! I am embarrassed to be that lax. I have noticed you doing a good job at vandalism reversion. In looking quickly at your user page in particular, I see that you have also created articles and ventured into a variety of "maintenance" areas. You're doing a great job. I hope you are enjoying it and will continue to contribute to the project. "Enjoy" may or may not be the best word; perhaps getting satisfaction from working on the project is a better way to put it. Thanks, again. Donner60 (talk) 08:10, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Donner60. I do enjoy contributing and helping out with the project in any way I can, and I appreciate that others recognize that. I do think that reverting vandalism is one of the most important tasks to do on Misplaced Pages, and it looks like you've been doing a great job with that. I hope you keep up the good work as well!--SkyGazer 512 12:42, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Template changes

Hey, ho! Just wanted to let you know that when you the documentation for {{Adopting}} to a subpage, you also removed the following code: <div class="boilerplate metadata" id="WikiAdoption" width=100%>. That broke some stuff. Took me a little playing it around to figure out what had caused it, hence the revert. Don't worry too much about it, this is just a courtesy notification so that you don't spend a bunch of time determing what I was doing. —Compassionate727  23:50, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Ah shoot, you're completely right Compassionate727! I didn't look close enough at the coding - I had assumed that all the div stuff was the documentation (which at this time, of course, was part of the template), rather than coding for the actual userbox. Thank you very much for catching that and fixing my mistake there. Cheers, --SkyGazer 512 00:42, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

New page reviewer granted

Hi SkyGazer 512. Your account has been added to the "New page reviewers" user group. Minor user rights can now be accorded on a time limited or probationary period, do check back at WP:PERM in case this concerns your application. This user group allows you to review new pages through the Curation system and mark them as patrolled, tag them for maintenance issues, or nominate them for deletion. The list of articles awaiting review is located at the New Pages Feed. New page reviewing is vital to maintaining the integrity of the encylopedia. If you have not already done so, you must read the tutorial at New Pages Review, the linked guides and essays, and fully understand the deletion policy. If you need any help or want to discuss the process, you are welcome to use the new page reviewer talk page. In addition, please remember:

• Be nice to new editors. They are usually not aware that they are doing anything wrong. Do make use of the message feature when tagging pages for maintenance. so that they are aware.
• You will frequently be asked by users to explain why their page is being deleted. Please be formal and polite in your approach to them – even if they are not.
• If you are not sure what to do with a page, don't review it – just leave it for another reviewer.
• Accuracy is more important than speed. Take your time to patrol each page. Use the message feature to communicate with article creators and offer advice as much as possible.

The reviewer right does not change your status or how you can edit articles. If you no longer want this user right, you also may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. In cases of abuse or persistent inaccuracy of reviewing, or long-term non use, (it is a 'use-it-or-lose-it' access) the right may be withdrawn at administrator discretion. Swarm ♠ 01:33, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Useful scripts for NPR

I just wanted to share a list of useful scripts for New Page Reviewing with you that I have been drafting for the next newsletter, as you can probably make use of them straight away:

• WP:Twinkle provides a lot of the same functionality as the page curation tools, and some reviewers prefer to use the Twinkle tools for some/all tasks. It can be activated simply in the gadgets section of 'preferences'. There are also a lot of options available at the Twinkle preferences panel after you install the gadget.
• User:Equazcion/ScriptInstaller.js: Installing scripts doesn't have to be complicated. Go to User:SkyGazer 512/common.js and copy importScript( 'User:Equazcion/ScriptInstaller.js' ); into an empty line, now you can install all other scripts with the click of a button from the script page! (Note you need to be at the ".js" page for the script for the install button to appear, not the information page)
• User:TheJosh/Scripts/NewPagePatrol.js: Creates a scrolling new pages list at the left side of the page. You can change the number of pages shown by adding the following to the next line on your common.js page (immediately after the line importing this script): npp_num_pages=20; (I recommend 20, but you can use any number from 1 to 50).
• User:Primefac/revdel.js: Is revdel annoying and time consuming? Install this script and deal with copyvios in the blink of an eye. Just have the Copyvio source URL and go to the history page and collect your Diff Ids and you can drop them into the script Popups.
• User:Lourdes/PageCuration.js: Creates a "Page Curation" link to Special:NewPagesFeed up near your sandbox link.
• User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/deletionFinder.js: Creates links next to the title of each page which show up if it has been previously deleted or nominated for deletion.
• User:Evad37/rater.js: A fantastic tool for adding WikiProject templates to article talk pages. If you add: rater_autostartNamespaces = 0; to the next line on your common.js, the prompt will pop up automatically if a page has no Wikiproject templates on the talk page (note: this can be a bit annoying if you review redirects or dab pages commonly).

Welcome to the team. Cheers, — Insertcleverphrasehere 01:37, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, Insertcleverphrasehere. I had already installed several of those, and plan to install many of the others that you listed, as they definitely seem like they would help me out some.--SkyGazer 512 01:40, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Articles at AFD

2020 games article are not article to review, or place extra tags - please get a handle on order - if there is something in question, please leave it alone JarrahTree 14:28, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi JarrahTree - are you saying that if an article is at AfD it shouldn't be reviewed or have tags added to it? If so, I actually disagree - from what I know, the point of new pages patrol is to mark articles as reviewed once problems have either been fixed or tagged for, and this is supported by the flowchart. Per WP:NPPLOG, "Any page that is tagged for speedy deletion, proposed for deletion, or nominated for discussion so editors do not waste time patrolling a new page that has already been patrolled." And as for the tagging part, it's still helpful for users who patrol maintenance categories to see ALL articles that would be in there, not just ones that are not undergoing AfD, and it's helpful for the page's creator to know what they can improve. Also, the point of a deletion discussion is to decide whether an article will be deleted or not - it doesn't make sense that we're not allowed to place any tags to indicate areas for improvement when there's a chance that the article is going to get kept. If this was not what you meant, a bit more clarification would be nice. ;) Thanks!--SkyGazer 512 14:43, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

forget it JarrahTree 23:39, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Aregawi Sabagadis

Thanks for reviewing Aregawi Sabagadis. I added the source for the last sentence which is the Encylopaedia Aethiopica reference I used earlier. Turtlewong (talk) 15:07, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

No problem! The article is coming along nicely.--SkyGazer 512 15:13, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Hohlbach (Haidenaab)

Thank you for reviewing my new page Hohlbach (Haidenaab)! You asked on my talk page, whether I have more sources than just Google Maps. Actually, if you don't count OpenStreetMap and the disambiguation page Hohlbach on the German Misplaced Pages, I don't have any.

If you are interested in, I will tell you why I created this article nevertheless: I've noticed, that in English Misplaced Pages there exists a lot of German river articles that have simply been copied from the German Misplaced Pages, e.g. Hohlbach (Nidda). But in contrast to the German Misplaced Pages, the English Misplaced Pages did not had any other Hohlbach article. Therefore, either the article Hohlbach (Nidda) should be moved to Hohlbach, or one should create a disambiguation Hohlbach plus creating another Hohlbach (xxx) article so that this disambiguation makes sense. I thought the latter is more future-proof and also creating new articles about rivers is not a bad idea. Therefore, I've looked into the German disambiguation Hohlbach what Hohlbach (xxx) I could create. I've found there the Hohlbach being a tributary of the Nidda as well as a hin to another Hohlbach river being a tributary to the Haidenaab. Therefore, I've created then both the Hohlbach (Haidenaab) and the disambiguation Hohlbach.

Regards --Cyfal (talk) 18:13, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Cyfal! Thanks for letting me know. Yeah, unfortunately, many places like these really do have little or no sources with coverage about them. You could tag it with {{Refimprove}} to alert others that more refs would be helpful, but if no refs exist, I guess there wouldn't be much point in doing that. Cheers, --SkyGazer 512 22:34, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Vision (Italian think tank)

Sorry, I just deleted this as soft delete, because I misread the date on your relist, thinking it had been relisted for a week with no comments, and hence it could be soft deleted since nobody seemed to care about keeping it. Open AfDs get put in a queue that gets updated every hour, and if you don't look at one carefully, it's easy to misread it. Are you okay with the soft delete, or do you want me to restore and restart the AfD from where it left off? Ritchie333 15:56, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: I personally would say it's up to you. I have no particularly interest on the subject - I just was patrolling AfDs and noticed that this was a relatively new one which did not have any participation after a week of being open. The article can easily be restored at WP:REFUND, so I don't think closing it as soft delete with no participation is a huge deal.--SkyGazer 512 16:18, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

The article's creator hasn't been around for 10 years bar one edit in 2011. I'd prefer to leave it soft deleted as it's less work for me, and as you say it does mean it can be retrieved on demand at any time via WP:REFUND. Ritchie333 16:20, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Wildair

Re your question : "Would you be able to source the Breeding section and the last part of the Progeny section, so that the information can easily be verified?"

Sure. The norm for the breeding info seems to be placing it after the "family" in the Pedigree box. So, that's where I've put it. Any suggestions? Progeny section : done Thanks. Stretchrunner (talk) 01:05, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, Stretchrunner. I went ahead and added the same ref you had to the breeding section as well, and removed the tag. Thank you for taking the time to create these nice articles - keep up the good work!--SkyGazer 512 01:27, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Advice on Jordan cummaudo

If this user removes the deletion template again (or if it is deleted and recreated again), I think you can also G4 it (the creator's talk page suggests that the article was deleted a few minutes ago). _Hypercube ✎ 02:03, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi SemiHypercube, and thanks for leaving the message. According to the CSD page, G4 only applies if the material was recreated via discussion, not just if it was speedy deleted before. This would mean that the criterion wouldn't apply here, but it would if it were deleted via, e.g. AfD. Anyways, it looks like they've done something else with the page now - let me take a look at it so that I can see what needs to be done to it now.--SkyGazer 512 02:06, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

I think the user straight up copied (not even the source, just the article as it appears, that's even worse) another article . . . on LeBron James. I've A10'd it. _Hypercube ✎ 02:09, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Yes, you're right, thanks for catching that. It looks they replaced all cases of "James" in the first few sentences with "Jordan," but left the rest the same.--SkyGazer 512 02:11, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Lodiwicus du Plessis

Hi SkyGazer 512

Kindly indicate to me where adjustments is necessary Barry Ne (talk)

Hi Barry Ne - I think you're talking about Lodewicus du Plessis (E instead of an I). It's close to not needing the copy-edit tag, but there are quite a few spelling/grammar mistakes throughout the article that should be fixed. I can help you out with fixing the issues some. Besides the few copy-editing issues, the article looks very nice - thank you for creating it.--SkyGazer 512 18:17, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

I've made quite a few copy-edits to the article and removed the tag now.--SkyGazer 512 18:25, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! Barry Ne (talk) 01:05, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Checking though

Hello @SkyGazer 512: I created these articles but they have not been reviewed as yet though most have. I am of belief that articles must be reviewed after a considerable amount of time, I have fixed changes to those that needed fixing and most. Check through them for reviewing and patrol and do let me know where/if I need to do some fixing to them. They are Nkrumah Mushelenga, Persecuted In Search of Change, Mangamu Saw Mills, Chifubu Secondary School. Best regards SkillsM674 (talk) 19:26, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi SkillsM674, and thanks for letting me know. I went ahead and reviewed Nkrumah Mushelenga and Persecuted In Search of Change, as I'm not seeing any major issues there. I think I'll leave the other two pages to other patrollers - I actually recently got the new page reviewer user right, and I would be more comfortable letting somebody else go through those. Jsyk, it appears that there's a grammar error in Persecuted In Search of Change: Namibia National Liberational of Veterans Association Nkrumah Mushelenga "African leaders can only be achieve investment if improvements of national strategic goals are focused on important sectors of a coun­try such as education, health, agriculture and technological skills are correctly managed at national level." Did you mean to add a said that after Nkrumah Mushelenga?

I also would like to ask you if you know about citation templates. They can be accessed by clicking "cite" in the editing toolbar, and pick one of the templates from the menu: cite web, cite news, cite book, and cite journal. It's somewhat standard to use these on Misplaced Pages - as they make references look nicer and easier to insert. Let me know if you have any questions, and thank you for creating all of these articles! Cheers, --SkyGazer 512 21:40, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, i noticed it. I honestly know nothing about that template. My twinkle has set features only for citations which shows on publish, preview, cancel and itself. Would like to know more. Thank you for the review. Kind regards SkillsM674 (talk) 22:42, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

I figured out how to use the template. Thank you for the help.

No problem, glad I could help out. Keep up the good work!--SkyGazer 512 22:54, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Just so that others know, SkillsM674 is a confirmed sock and has now been blocked indefinitely (as well as globally locked), which is why all of their creations have been deleted.--SkyGazer 512 14:40, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you!

		The New Page Patroller's Barnstar
		Looking through a sample of your recent reviewing, it looks like you have been doing great work. Keep it up! Cheers, — Insertcleverphrasehere 05:34, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Notes:

• Disambiguation pages should not have a talk page created with the Wikiproject Disambiguation banner. Those guys will come and complain to you sooner or later, but consensus is that that banner should only b used where there is already a talk page with discussion on it. If it is a surname page, add the Anthroponymy banner though. Install the WP:RATER script to make adding Wikiproject banners super easy (if you haven't found it already).
• Even if an article clearly meets criteria for inclusion (such as Taxodiomyia cupressiananassa), tag it with {{refimprove}} if it has less than 2 good sources. — Insertcleverphrasehere 05:34, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Insertcleverphrasehere! I never realized that about disambiguation pages, so that's definitely helpful to know. And yeah, I've been meaning to install the rater script, but I just haven't gotten around to it - I guess I'll do that now before I forget. As for the at least 2 sources part, I agree for the most part, but sometimes, when reviewing, I don't add a maintenance tag for sources if the article clearly meets the criteria for inclusion AND all statements are reliably sourced (like in this case), but I'm certainly willing to change that. Cheers, --SkyGazer 512 14:35, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

New page review

Hi SkyGazer 512: Thanks for reviewing Ella Florence Fondren and for the shout out. Cheers, Oldsanfelipe (talk) 09:23, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

No problem, Oldsanfelipe. Keep up the good work!--SkyGazer 512 15:07, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Article Re-assessment

Hello SkyGazer 512

I noticed you recently gave this new article a "start" quality rating. I appreciate this, and I was curious as to whether my other article Pajanelia should be reassessed as well. I say this as Pajanelia has a far more elaborated sections, has better sources and all around better and more information for the reader, but is still a stub, this review left over from when it had very little information. I feel as though a start class review would be more accurate and relevant for the reader. I appreciate your work, keep it up. RussianAfroMan (talk) 01:01, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi RussianAfroMan. Looking at the C-class criteria for WP:WikiProject Plants/Assessment, I think the article meets them, but barely, so I went ahead and reassessed it as C-class; though if someone else thinks it doesn't quite meet the criteria, I don't have any objections to them lowering it to start, but I definitely don't think it's a stub anymore. Jsyk, I didn't actually assess Ajuga orientalis - I marked it as reviewed, but NessieVL was the user who actually assessed it. Thanks for reaching out to me, and keep up the good work!--SkyGazer 512 01:50, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Added links to orphan: Mini Qutub Minar

Hi, thanks for your nice message. I pointed some links to Mini Qutub Minar from other page. After adding links how do you check whether a page has links? Thanks. --Aksamzarook (talk) 19:30, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Aksamzarook - thanks for doing that! I've now removed the orphan tag from the page. To check whether a page has links, go to Special:WhatLinksHere/. In this case, it would be Special:WhatLinksHere/Mini Qutub Minar. You can quickly access this page by clicking the "What links here" option in the tools section of the left sidebar. To check whether something's actually an orphan or not, set the "Namespace" to only (article); an article is still an orphan if it's only linked to from non-article namespace pages or only disambiguation pages or hatnotes. There's some more detailed information at WP:ORPHAN. Let me know if you have any questions, and happy editing! Cheers, --SkyGazer 512 22:15, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you SkyGazer :) --Aksamzarook (talk) 03:03, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Apology

Please ignore the ping on WP:AFCRD. That was a mistake. Sorry —AE (talk • contributions) 02:35, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

No need for an apology, no harm done; things happen and I figured out the situation pretty quickly. I've had worse things happen on Misplaced Pages than somebody pinging the wrong user. --SkyGazer 512 02:38, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

A Barnstar in Recognition of Your Kindness and Proactive User Support

		The Helping Hand Barnstar
		For helping to build a more collegial Misplaced Pages community by giving your fellow users a helping hand when they may not even realize they need or deserve it, you are hereby awarded this Helping Hand Barnstar. Thank you for your thoughtfulness. 47thPennVols (talk) 07:10, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the barnstar and your kind words, 47thPennVols, and no problem. --SkyGazer 512 12:53, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

A Dobos torte for you!

7&6=thirteen (☎) has given you a Dobos torte to enjoy! Seven layers of fun because you deserve it. To give a Dobos torte and spread the WikiLove, just place {{subst:Dobos Torte}} on someone else's talkpage, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:41, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Much thanks for the Dobos torte, 7&6=thirteen - it looks delicious!--SkyGazer 512 12:45, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

I cooked it (the template) in my own kitchen. You are welcome. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:00, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Brownie points!

Thank you for accepting my revision on the How to Train Your Dragon The Hidden World page! What threshold is there that would auto accept my revisions on pages under such protections? Sarcathmo17 (talk) 23:42, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

@Sarcathmo17: Thanks for the brownie! In normal circumstances, your changes would be auto accepted, but because an IP had made an edit before you that was still awaiting review, it showed up as unaccepted. I accepted the change because it did not contain vandalism, copyright violations, or BLP violations. However, after looking at the edit more closely, factual information was changed without a source. So my question is, do you have a source stating that the planned release date has changed? If so, then you should add it to the page. If not, then the information will have to be reverted to what it was before per WP:VERIFIABILITY. Let me know if you have any further questions. Cheers,--SkyGazer 512 01:36, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Reasoning behind my edit at Sivapanthera

I reverted the edits made by 140.0.186.98 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log)) at Sivapanthera because it's in an IP range misused/abused by an IP-hopping vandal who tends to spam pages with incorrect, inappropriate, and or nonexistent categories. I've adopted a policy to revert all of its edits on any active IP, as per WP:DENY, as combing through its edit histories to preserve the precious few good edits while reverting its many bad edits is the Misplaced Pages equivalent of panning for gold in raw sewage.--Mr Fink (talk) 20:49, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Apokryltaros - that makes sense, I didn't realize that; my apologies. However, I still don't think it doesn't hurt if another editor (me in this case) happens to notice that the edit was construtive, and redoes the edit. Also, are you sure they're a blatant vandal? From what I've seen, they appear to be acting in good faith, but you know more about this situation than I do (particularly about other IPs they've edited from), so I won't make any assumptions.--SkyGazer 512 22:51, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

I bear no grudges against other editors who can salvage this vandal's edits. As far as I can tell, perhaps the vandal probably is editing in good faith, but, it's been my personal experience that the vandal demonstrates neither desire nor ability to communicate with other editors beyond restoring its edits, let alone reflect on how its editing habits of category spam and insertion of original research trivia actually harm Misplaced Pages.--Mr Fink (talk) 01:04, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

@Apokryltaros: As I said, I know little about this situation, but I would like to point out that if somebody is editing in good faith, they're not a vandal, and WP:DENY wouldn't apply to them.--SkyGazer 512 01:21, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Except that it can be applied if the good faith editor in question is causing much harm to Misplaced Pages articles while simultaneously failing to make any attempt to communicate with other editors about how to improve its behavior, or make any attempt understand how its editing behavior harms Misplaced Pages. I've been dealing with this particular vandal for over a decade, and not once has it made any attempt at response beyond restoring some of the pernicious edits I or other editors have reverted.--Mr Fink (talk) 03:12, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

@Apokryltaros: perhaps I have misunderstood the situation, but in my opinion, such a decision -- that all edits made from a particular IP range should be prevented, by reversion or otherwise -- should be made by an administrator. If an IP range has been found to be consistently disruptive, that IP range or ranges can be blocked from editing. MPS1992 (talk) 23:35, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

It uses three to four large IP-ranges, and over the years, I've found that reverting the vandal's edits when I notice it's active again is the most expedient way of dealing with it.--Mr Fink (talk) 01:04, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

@Apokryltaros: Where in Misplaced Pages policy does it say that you should apply WP:Deny to a whole IP range?? JC7V-constructive zone 02:25, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

I've been dealing with this particular vandal for over a decade, and I've discovered that, as whenever it is blocked at one IP, it either moves to a new IP, or it literally simply waits until that blocked IP's block expires and begins again. I've also observed how it also uses more than one IP range, hence my mentioning it uses three to four large IP-ranges. That, and you are, in fact, misunderstanding me, as, I only revert and only advocate reverting those edits of one of the problem IPs or IP-ranges when it is clear that the vandal in question is active. Ergo, I've found through experience that blocking IPs or petitioning to have IP ranges blocked do little to stop it.--Mr Fink (talk) 03:12, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Women in Red

Hi there, SkyGazer 512, and welcome to Women in Red. Glad to see you are going to devote some of your busy editing time to this project. I know you have already written a few biographies but you might still find it useful to read through our Ten Simple Rules. If you run into any difficulties or need assistance, please let me know. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 07:59, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

October 2018 at Women in Red

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I appreciate the welcome, Ipigott - I'm happy to join. I'll be sure to ask you any questions if needed.--SkyGazer 512 12:45, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Keep up your great work! —AE (talk • contributions) 12:49, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar, Abelmoschus Esculentus, I appreciate it.--SkyGazer 512 12:57, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Earbury

Hi, thanks for review and friendly remark... You must be the only person apart from me who can raise much enthusiasm for 17th century puritan ministers, but hey, they appeal to my Eeyore-ish moods and when I have "done" one I can go and let my hair down afterwards with a clear moral conscience. Welcome to the party!! Thanks, greetings, Eebahgum (talk) 20:36, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for reaching out, Eebahgum. The article looks great, and it definitely seems interesting - it looks like you've worked hard on it! Keep up the good work. Cheers, --SkyGazer 512 23:44, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Rescuing orphans

Thanks for reminding me to go back and link to my new article! Much appreciated. :) SaturdayLibrarian (talk) 00:10, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

No problem, SaturdayLibrarian, I'm happy you were able to find a suitable link. The article is very well written and quite interesting too. I hope you continue to create good articles like this one!--SkyGazer 512 00:15, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Mary Jane Reoch

On 16 October 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mary Jane Reoch, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Mary Jane Reoch rode 12 miles (19 km) to the hospital on her racing bike to give birth to her daughter? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mary Jane Reoch. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Mary Jane Reoch), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

A belated thank you!

Hello SkyGazer 512, thank you for your welcome which I only just noticed, having been absent from Misplaced Pages for a few months. Loved the cookies! Thank you :)

I hear you are a pizza amateur, here's for you:

Would you kindly care to review my new updated page: Draft:The Association of Castles and Museums around the Baltic Sea. Any of your further suggestions / contributions are welcome! It will be updated regularly after being published, but I think it is now good to go. Best, Marebalti.

Marebalti (talk) 01:20, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Marebalti! Thank you very much for the pizza and for leaving me a message here. Unfortunately, I still don't believe that the article passes our notability guidelines yet. Misplaced Pages has strict guidelines as to what sources an article needs to have in order to be consider notable, and they're even stricter for companies. You can see WP:NCORP for a more detailed explanation, particularly the section WP:ORGIND. I don't think that any of the current sources satisfy the criteria listed there.

The main problem with all of the current sources is that none of them are independent of the subject. They're mostly either the subject's website, or the website of castles/museums that are incorporated by The Association of Castles and Museums around the Baltic Sea. What you really need are multiple good, clearly reliable sources that are not affiliated with the company in any way, which clearly pass the criteria at WP:NCORP. If these can't be found, then I don't think that this subject would be suitable for Misplaced Pages. Please don't get discouraged because of this. The notability guidelines on Misplaced Pages are very strict. There are a number of easily-notable articles that have not yet been created, but this may not be one of them. I can give you a list if you want, and I'd be willing to help you create them. Let me know if you have any questions, and happy editing!--SkyGazer 512 01:45, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Barry Mitchell

I've received a notification on my talk page that said that you reviewed Barry Mitchell (basketball): thank you for your kind words, I put a lot of effort in writing the article. I am glad that I also managed to avoid grammar mistakes! --Triple 8~enwiki (talk) 15:36, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for reaching out, Triple 8~enwiki. Based on the length and quality of the article, I can definitely tell you worked hard on it, which is much appreciated. Considering how much non-routine reliable source coverage he's received, including the New York Times, I'm surprised the subject didn't have an article already. If you're looking for improvements to make, I would suggest expanding the lead to a full paragraph which summarizes the article as a whole, and maybe see if you can find any information about his early life before college. But those are minor things, and overall it looks great!--SkyGazer 512 17:12, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Pelivan

Thank you very much. I was rather expecting that someone will nominate it for deletion :)

When you have time, would it be OK to ask you about two articles which I am not sure what to do with? Just to take a look. Thanks anyway and take care PajaBG (talk) 15:55, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Hey PajaBG; it appears that the topic has received significant coverage in multiple reliable sources which are cited in the article, so it meets the general notability guideline. I doubt it will be deleted, but you never know what may happen on Misplaced Pages. :-) To answer your question, yes it would definitely be ok. What articles in specific do you want me to look at? I'll try to see what I can do if you name them to me, though I'm not making any promises. Unfortunately, I'll be in another city (or driving to that city) for many hours today, but I should have time tomorrow, or possible even late tonight. Cheers, --SkyGazer 512 17:30, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi. Take all the time you need, it is not an emergency. Not even close to an emergency :) The first one is this: Hospitals. I am not sure it will survive online, especially since there is only one source, good and detailed, though. I have started articles with only one source before and some developed nicely later (Latin lover). If you think it can survive like this as the core of an article, I might dig a bit more on the subject. If it’s better to be a part of something like Hospitals in Beglrade, I absolutely have no time for that at the moment, so I will keep it as it is for now. Thanks again and drive safely. PajaBG (talk) 21:42, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

@PajaBG: Yeah, the Hospitals article does definitely look nice, and it's a rather interesting topic as well. Hospitals in Belgrade as a title could work; there are similar articles that do exist, such as Hospitals in Thailand. However, I do think more than one source would definitely be beneficial, particularly because there is so much material supported by the single source. Would you be able to find any other sources? Based on the scope of the topic, it doesn't seem likely that the source you have would be the only one that covers anything in the article, though it may be more difficult to find others. Also, try to make sure that every paragraph is sourced, so that all information can be verified. Let me know if you have any questions.--SkyGazer 512 00:10, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello. I know the drill of how an article should look like and be referenced, I wrote my first back in 2006 ;) Would there be a point in creating a page "18th century hospitals in Belgrade", the core of which would be what I already have, but expanded and referenced as much as I can? Or rather general "Hospitals in Belgrade" and filling only the 18th century section?

The other one I wanted to ask you about is this: Night life. I deliberately stopped with the 1990s because that is where the major sources I used also stop but also as I didn't want it to look like an advertising for the existing venues since almost all clubs mentioned are today closed or renamed. Names of the sections (Shy 1960s, etc.) are not mine, they are from the major source I used. Also, as with the hospitals, if worthy of being posted, should it be "20th century nighlife in Belgrade", "Origins of nightlife in Belgrade" or "Belgrade nightlife" with 21st century section empty... PajaBG (talk) 11:15, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Hmm, I don't know what the best title would be PajaBG. I'm not sure if it would be great to have it as "18th century hospitals in Belgrade" when the articles for other centuries don't exist, but I'm not sure if simply "Hospitals in Belgrade" would be the best if you're only covering the 18th century. I'd say it's up to you. The night life article looks great as well, it looks like you worked hard on it; but I'm not sure about the best title for this one either. One thing I will say, though, is that I don't see why it would be a problem adding the clubs that are still open today as long as the tone is neutral; I doubt it would be considered advertising.--SkyGazer 512 14:36, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi. I asked you these things cause you are reviewing new articles, so I guess you have a better idea about the titles and stuff, in the cases when I myself am not sure what’s better and need some advice. I will keep the hospitals as it is for now, maybe some nice source with the older/newer periods will come into my hands and then I will see. As for the nightlife, I will give it a try. I will write an intro and add the 21st century section with an “empty section” template. I might also expanded it with the pre-1960s period cause I think I have enough material (kafana, Skadarlija, etc.). But it will take some time. Thanks. PajaBG (talk) 15:55, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Sounds like a good plan; thank you for your work. As you probably know, it's fine if they're not completed as soon as they're in the mainspace; Misplaced Pages is never finished, and other users can always chip on and add material which you can't find as much information about. Do remember, though, that just because I am a new page reviewer, that does not mean that I necessarily have a better idea about titles and stuff than non-reviewers; literately all new page reviewers are, are normal users who have the ability to mark pages as reviewed. Honestly, I'm not sure that I know that much more about good page titles than you do, but I try to pick out what I think fits the best and do what I can. :-)--SkyGazer 512 02:53, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

(Untitled)

Hello, we've recently updated the company page to reflect the company's current status. This includes edits to the history section, FY results, key persons. These edits have not been made for advertising reasons.Spots11 (talk) 00:21, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Hey Spots11, and thanks for leaving me a message here! Unfortunately, the nature of the edits gave a clear impression of promotion. Wikiepdia must adhere to a neutral point of view. The edits you made didn't follow that policy, particularly due to the inclusion first person (we) and several peacock terms. However, the more pressing matter here was the fact that your edit was a copyright violation. It was directly copied from https://www.cardno.com/about-us/who-we-are/our-history/, which as stated here, has an "all rights reserved" policy. Misplaced Pages's policies don't allow us to add content copied from elsewhere unless its license is compattible with Misplaced Pages, and persistent violators of this policy may be blocked from editing. I'd suggest that you read the links provided in the welcome notice I gave you. Let me know if you have any further questions! Cheers, --SkyGazer 512 01:57, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi SkyGazer 512, I am editing the content on behalf of Cardno using Cardno's Misplaced Pages account. I'm in Cardno's Global Marketing Team. I'm not sure how updating the Carndo Misplaced Pages page with the company's content is considered as a copy right violation?... We've never had this much trouble before when updating our history and positioning statements. I'm hoping to update the content again soon, as it's now outdated, please advise if I will be able to do this. Spots11 (talk) 06:57, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello Spots11! I explained why it was a copyright violation in the post above; it was copied from a website that does not have a license compatible with Misplaced Pages. The link I provided explained more details. In your latest response, you have said two things. The first is that your editing on behalf of Cardno, which gives the impression of paid-editing. Per WP:PAID, you must disclose this on your user page in accordance with Wikimedia's terms of use. The second thing you said is that this is "Cardno's Misplaced Pages account." Shared accounts, unfortunately, are not permitted on Misplaced Pages. Per WP:SHARED, evidence of doing so will result in the user being required to stop the practice and change their password, or in sanctions (up to and including the account being blocked). Also, because you have a conflict of interest with the subject, it's strongly recommended that you don't edit the page directly and instead make edit requests on the talk page which are supported by a source. In short, I'm not sure if you understand the purpose of Misplaced Pages. We are an encyclopedia who's purpose is for independent editors to write about notable topics based off of what reliable sources say. Our purpose isn't for companies to write about themselves, copying material from their websites which are promotional in tone. All material should be verifiable, written in your own words, written from a neutral point of view, and preferably by independent editors. The five pillars, particular 1-3, summarize this very nicely.

So, to answer your question, yes, there is a way to update the content again! However, it must be reliably sourced, completely written in your own words with no close paraphrasing, neutral and not promotional in tone, and you should request the edit on the talk page due to the conflict of interest. Also, per WP:Verifiability, not truth, you should not update the page just because you know through personal experiences how the company has been updated; the material must be supported by sources. But you should only do this after you have disclosed your paid editing and you have either created a new account for only you or changed your password so that you are the only one editing from this account. This post may come across as harsh, so I hope you don't interpret it offensively, as that's not at all what I mean for it to be; I'm just trying to be clear and direct. Again, let me know if you have any questions, but do try to take this seriously. :)--SkyGazer 512 13:11, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Shop floor

I notice you've done a bit of work on Magoo's page. If you've got an interest, I just put up pages on Pete & Jake that could use help, if you're game. The California Kid could use a tune-up, too. ;p Tom Paris 18:42, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Hey Trekphiler, absolutely! I've been busy today except for the morning and now it's late in the night (I'm in ETC), but I'll see what I can do with those pages tomorrow. Thanks for letting me know!--SkyGazer 512 02:08, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

No hurry at all. :D If you want other projects (I don't have the back issues, or access to 'em, to support it, or I'd do it), have a look in my contributions. I've put up a bunch of drag racer stub pages that could use it, plus redlinks for the Winternats year reports, plus the Altered and Top Gas pages, plus the redlinks here that somebody keeps trying to delete... And let me say, it's good to know I'm not alone in the dark; I'd begun to think nobody else at WP was interested at all. Good having you here. :D TREKphiler 14:52, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for giving me stuff to do, Trekphiler! I've begun working on Pete Chapouris now. I don't think I'll really be creating new articles in this area, as I'm not too familiar with it, but I'd be happy to try to copy-edit what I can.--SkyGazer 512 15:14, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

I was hoping you had better access to sources; I can't even get the HRM website to load for me (to name one). For the nicknames page, tbh, even a few lines of a stub page (like Jake Jacobs) would do nicely. If you can maybe resolve conflicts between sources (like the Stock class winner at the '62 Winternats or the chop of the Hirohata Merc), that'd be terrific. If that's impossible, tho, I won't complain; you do what you can do. TREKphiler 15:31 & 15:36, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

I should correct myself. If you're looking for specific pages, you're better advised to look at my user page. The "open vanity" boxes will give you as many options as you'll ever want, & that way, you won't have to sort through all the other junk I've edited. :p TREKphiler 18:42, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Lisbon, Dakota Territory

Thank you for the help. 208.95.51.53 (talk) 13:25, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

No problem - glad I could help. Let me know if you need me for anything else.--SkyGazer 512 13:26, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Tollywood Guruji

I was just looking for the notification template when your thanks came in. (Hint to future self: it's in the template text, how helpful) Was your warning on their talk page a full deletion that was removed? If so, we might be able to add a 'notice to the deleting admin' template too, see {salt}.

Anything else I can do to help this along? Elfabet (talk) 14:32, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Hey Elfabet. I tagged it for deletion per WP:A7 and WP:G11, but they removed the template. I was going to add it back, but I noticed that you had added an slightly different delete template already. :) I think {{salt}} should generally only be used if the page has been deleted before, rather than if the speedy template has been removed before. If the user continues with this promo, I'll probably take them to WP:ANI or WP:AIV per WP:NOTHERE. Now all we need to do is just wait for an admin to come along and delete the page.--SkyGazer 512 14:38, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Coo' beans. If you do get them on a board for removal, I'd appreciate a ping to add my voice. Elfabet (talk) 14:49, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Sebuah BintangWiki untuk Anda!

	The Brilliant Idea Barnstar
	thanks for repair my article but nex time you have permited by user Dimas gilang (talk) 06:44, 1 November 2018 (UTC)