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==Lost episodes== ==Lost episodes==
Hiya, when you have a moment, could you please pop in to ], to confirm that we still have consensus on the agreed guidelines? Thanks, --] 14:20, 29 October 2006 (UTC) Hiya, when you have a moment, could you please pop in to ], to confirm that we still have consensus on the agreed guidelines? Thanks, --] 14:20, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

== ==Do we need to have some arbitration?== ==

You were the only one to object to my edits. You said to take it to the talk page. I have done so. You have not responded there. I also note that you have reverted other edits. So you know, simple reverting without discussion is considered disruptive. With unexplained reverts, it appears that you are going contrary to ].

If you request a discussion, then you should discuss. If you do not discuss, there can be no discussion.

I feel that you have been aggressive and unfair. Do we need to go to an arbitration or RfC? --] 14:25, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

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Request for Mediation

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Big Love

Regarding your removal of the Trivia section I inserted into the Big Love article, I am curious about your rather stringent application of WP:OR in the realm of television entries. From other articles, I've gathered that the standard of confirmation for things which appear to be allusions, easter eggs, et cetera, is considerably lower than it is for other factual matters. It would seem that you disagree with this laxity. I don't bring this up to be a dick, but because it seems to lead into a somewhat substantial policy question that you might have some thoughts about.

Anyhow, none of this actually applies to the edit in question. I was half-asleep when I wrote that and did something of a miserable job with it. In this case, it wasn't a matter of original research--the show's creators mentioned repeatedly during the press tour prior to its premiere that the UEB was based on the FLDS. I've included citations for that. The speculative part was where the UEB name came from. With the citation I've now included, as well as other Google-available material, I think that speculation is more like a statement of the obvious.

Thanks. Tom Lillis 19:41, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Your nomination of Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Futurama on Articles for Deletion

With regards to this edit, surely you meant to nominate it for MfD (Miscellany for Deletion) instead? Misplaced Pages namespace pages get discussed there. ;) Kimchi.sg 17:19, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Your signature

Hello there, I was wondering if you would please modify your signature to conform to the guidelines laid out at Misplaced Pages:Sign your posts on talk pages. The general guidelines are that signatures shouldn't contain images, they shouldn't contain unnecessary internal links or any external links, and they shouldn't be unnecessarily long in Wiki source. The reasoning for this final bit is that overly long signatures tend to overwhelm the actual comments in edit mode, making it hard to track down and respond to specific comments. You can fix your signature by removing any images and external links, any unnecessary links (like links to Wikipedian organizations, articles, or subpages in userspace), and removing excessive color, font, and formatting code. Thank you. Also, the edit counter is down anyway, so there's no reason to have that link. --Cyde↔Weys 19:54, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

3RR

I filed a 3RR against the IP user in question ... but I'm at my max for 3RR myself. — Mike • 01:21, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, 3RR does make an exception for vandalism, it seems (WP:3RR), and I suppose you could argue his talk-page pasting puts him over the edge. But it's a gray area. — Mike • 01:35, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Our Crystal Ball Friend?

Our friend's at it again over at Episodes of Lost (season 3) and its talk page. Any idea for longer-term solutions — trying to get an admin to block the IP? It appears my 3RR complaint never resulted in a block . — Mike • 00:50, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

== WikiProject Futurama ==

Hello Jtrost,

I noticed that you have recently edited articles to do with Futurama. I was wondering if you would like to join WikiProject Futurama. Please add your name to the participants list and drop a line on my talk page if your interested.

Cheers, Jasrocks 07:29, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Lost

why was my lost edit reverted? User:Ryan2807 21:20, 24 June 2006 (GMT)

I added Trivia about the book club in "A Tale of Two Cities", and can't understand why you took it off. User:Codu

Your Request for Mediation

Hello, Jtrost

My name is ^demon, and I am going to mediate the case that you requested concerning the episodes of Lost. Right now, before we continue, I would like to know if you prefer public or private mediation. If you could just let me know over at your request for mediation, I would be most grateful. Have a pleasant evening.

Regards,
^demon /02:53, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Deletion discussion on an article you started

AfD Nomination Eastland Mall (Bloomington, Illinois)

I've nominated the article Eastland Mall (Bloomington, Illinois) for deletion under the Articles for deletion process. We appreciate your contributions, but in this particular case I do not feel that Eastland Mall (Bloomington, Illinois) satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion. I have explained why in the nomination space (see What Misplaced Pages is not and Deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Eastland Mall (Bloomington, Illinois). Don't forget to add four tildes (~~~~) at the end of each of your comments to sign them. You are free to edit the content of Eastland Mall (Bloomington, Illinois) during the discussion, but please do not remove the "Articles for Deletion" template (the box at the top). Doing so will not end the discussion. Inner Earth 10:31, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Beginning Mediation

Dear Jtrost,

After requesting the preference of mediation, the consensus appears to be public, with one person not responding (and has appeared to have left the project for the time being), and one person abstaining due to being away for the summer. This being decided, let us begin. I figure the easiest place to centralize all discussion can be the talk page of the RfM. Thanks for your time, and if you'll go there now, you'll see that I've begun a discussion on the topic. Thanks very much.

-^demon /11:36, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

You helped choose this week's WP:AID winner

Thank you for your support of the Article Improvement Drive.
This week Futurama was selected to be improved to featured article status.
Hope you can help…

Edit counter

The old edit counter (the one used in your sig) is defunct. Inertoit's Edit Counter works fairly well, but I don't know how to link it into a sig. As an example, the counter in your sig shows around 3000 edits, whereas Inertoit's shows 3400+. Just thought I'd give you a head's-up. - SigmaEpsilonΣΕ 15:10, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! essjay's version seems more linkable than Interiot's. I've linked my count into the Epsilon in my sig. - SigmaEpsilonΣΕ 15:43, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Of Survivor & Original Research

I hope you realize what you are doing to my watchlist. ;) --Maxamegalon2000 19:27, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Why are you reverting my changes rather than discussing the issue at hand? I posted a pretty solid example of my problem with these sections at http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Survivor:_The_Australian_Outback Doctofunk 19:35, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Contact

if you would help me in retrieving the correct meaning of some phrases in the sixth episode of kyle xy i would be more than grateful. The 89 guy 12:41, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

The latest swirl on Lostpedia inclusion

Hey, Jtrost... Wanted to ask you if you could consider lending your thoughts and perspective to the very strong push right now to include Lostpedia as a link. See Talk:Lost (TV series)‎. Conversation for now seems to be fairly dominated by the people advocating such. Thanks, PKtm 19:57, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Trump International Hotel and Tower (Chicago)

Hi! I reversed your change to this article because I think that you may have misread it. Please take a look again, and if you still feel it is POV let me know why. Thanks, —JeremyA 13:50, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Did you click the link? Setback (architecture)JeremyA 14:09, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Please click the link that I placed above. In this case the term 'setback' is referring to a commonly used architectural feature, as opposed to a problem. Take a look at what Emporis has to say about it, or this article ("Moreover, its setbacks pay homage to the Art Deco-era skyscrapers that made Chicago a living architectural museum. And it manages to reach for the stars without stepping on its neighbors. In fact, to its neighbors, it will appear to be an equal. That's because the first setback is at the same height as the cornice on the Wrigley Building, the second is the same height as Marina City, and the third is at the top of the IBM Building across the street.").
I did't add this text to the Misplaced Pages article, but, as you can see, whoever the author was didn't choose skyscrapers randomly, they are the neighbouring buildings, which the architects have taken into account by incorporating the setbacks into the design of the building. Personally, I am not keen on the design of the Trump Tower, but I think that the setbacks are an interesting idea, so I am interested to see if they work as the architects intended. —JeremyA 16:34, 2 September 2006 (UTC) A quick addition: I have just been browsing the architects website and they mention that they designed the setbacks to match these three buildings; you can read it here. —JeremyA 16:50, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
I am perfectly familiar with Misplaced Pages's policies. However, your latest edit to the Trump Tower article suggests that you still don't understand what a setback is—there is no negative connotation in the use of this word, it is simply referring to a commonly used architectural feature. The Sears Tower (designed by the same firm) also incorporates setbacks, as mentioned in its article and clearly seen on the photo of the tower. —JeremyA 17:15, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

AfD

It had no-consensus. WikieZach| talk 20:34, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Reason for No-Consensus: First, you are wrong. Both sides have quite an amazing protest of keeping or deleting. I am at this point going to PROPOSE that you try another AfD. But in my view, the policies of Misplaced Pages show no reason for deletion. They had a guy from the show on there. That alone is reason for relevence. WikieZach| talk 21:14, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Episode vs. season articles: your view

Hey, I've noticed that you've stayed out of the more recent discussion, largely, on episode articles vs. season articles Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for mediation/Lost episodes. Am I truly, as Elonka states, the last holdout? I'd appreciate anything you have to contribute, either on this page or to me on my talk page. Right now, I'm "going it alone", which is never all that fun. I'm leaving a similar note on LeFlyman's talk page. Just wondering if you two have changed your view, or gotten weary of the struggle, or what. Thanks. -- PKtm 20:48, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Nice job on 24 template

Finally someone did this. --Jasonflare 17:00, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Tail Section Flasbhack, questionable

Hey Jtrost, I don't think I quite understood where you said the discussion about the Tail Section/None discussion was. If you could find me a link, that would be great, thanks. -- Wikipedical 23:45, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

List of Lost episodes

I'm glad i am not the only one that agreed the caps should be reinstated, i talked to the Bainer and he said he would have no problem if the screencaps offered critical commentery with the text on the right, i'll be able to retake all the season 1 caps so taht they are all the same and all offer visual commentery but i do not have s2 on DVD yet. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 19:17, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Jtrost for talking to ed, I am back on editing, it has been a long break since I "really" edited lost pages, during the summer i was just ignoring people's edits,,, just want to let you know I'm on ur side and if you need any help you know where to find me --mo-- ( | #info | ) 14:57, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Lost mediation

The Zen Garden Award for Infinite Patience is awarded to you for extraordinary patience and perseverance in achieving a successful unanimous resolution to Misplaced Pages:Requests for mediation/Lost episodes. Thatcher131 04:12, 28 September 2006 (UTC)


I too would like to offer my thanks for your participation in the mediation. It's my hope that we'll now all be able to put our differences behind us, and work together towards our common goal of providing high-quality Lost articles on Misplaced Pages. And I'm excitedly looking forward to our having a front page featured article on Monday!  :) --Elonka 21:12, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Agreed.  :) I'm a firm believer in team-building, and one of the things that helps convert a "group" of people to a "team", is actually conflict, as the individual members of the group figure out ways of navigating through conflict, and working out ways to communicate with each other in order to achieve common goals. Ultimately I think the entire project will be the stronger for it. Full steam ahead!  :) --Elonka 22:00, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Lost: Featured article

The Lost WikiProject Award
Congratulations on Lost (TV series) making it to main page featured article. Your hard work on the Lost project is appreciated! --Elonka 00:08, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Excellent job!

In recognition of excellence
This is the second time I've received this, but as the saying goes, the more the merrier. Jtrost ( | C | #) 20:51, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Are there any guidelines anywhere on what needs to be done, in order to get a Lost barnstar? --Elonka 18:01, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
As far as I'm aware there are no official guidelines, just diligence and dedication to Lost related articles. Do you not have one? Jtrost ( | C | #) 11:50, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
You can see who currently has them, by reviewing the list at the bottom of Image:Lostbarnstar.jpg. --Elonka 16:29, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks.  :) BTW, I'm not sure if it's on your watch list, but I'd like to draw your attention to Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Lost/Episode guidelines, where we're doublechecking that all episodes are in adherence with the mediation guidelines. Your participation would be appreciated, to help "initial" next to episodes that you're happy with. --Elonka 20:27, 14 October 2006 (UTC)


 

DHARMA Initiative stations

Please do not change, delete or revert without discussion. Let's keep a consensus ThanksDudeman1st 01:02, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi, just would like your comments on The Hydra so we can get that up and running ASAP.Dudeman1st 06:50, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry I meant The Hydra at DHARMA Initiative stationsDudeman1st 06:55, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

List of Lost episodes

Hey Jtrost, I was wondering if you'd be willing to help me out with revising the List of Lost episodes page before the FL candidacy expires tomorrow. I'm referring to the points listed by people who 'oppose.' Thanks. -- Wikipedical 00:43, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Elonka

Thank you very much for your support in my RfA. Unfortunately consensus was not reached, and the nomination was not successful. However, I do appreciate your comments, am still in support of the Misplaced Pages project, and will continue to contribute (especially to the Lost articles!) without interruption. Thanks again! --Elonka 19:46, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Fair use images in lists

Hello, I see you have contributed your thoughts to Misplaced Pages talk:Fair use/Fair use images in lists. It's been dead for a while, but I have archived it and taken a new fresh start. I hope this time we will be able to achieve something as I have summarized the main points of both sides (feel free to improve them) and I call you to express your support or oppose on the concrete proposal that I have formulated. Thanks, Renata 02:31, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Lost episodes

Hiya, when you have a moment, could you please pop in to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Lost/Episode guidelines#Name suffix, to confirm that we still have consensus on the agreed guidelines? Thanks, --Elonka 14:20, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

==Do we need to have some arbitration?==

You were the only one to object to my edits. You said to take it to the talk page. I have done so. You have not responded there. I also note that you have reverted other edits. So you know, simple reverting without discussion is considered disruptive. With unexplained reverts, it appears that you are going contrary to WP:OWN.

If you request a discussion, then you should discuss. If you do not discuss, there can be no discussion.

I feel that you have been aggressive and unfair. Do we need to go to an arbitration or RfC? --Blue Tie 14:25, 9 November 2006 (UTC)