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==Neutral Point of View== ==Neutral Point of View==
This article does not seem to have a neutral point of view and projects as if India has always been a supporter of Israel and anti-Palestine. It can be verified from a number of sources that this is not the case. The biggest evidence is that India recognized the state of Palestine before as soon as it was created in 1988 but established diplomatic relations with Israel only in 1992. In fact India recognized Palestine even before Pakistan did! Also I also not know on what basis it is being said that hindus are generally pro-israel. That view is held by the sangh parivar but they do not represent the majority. Anyway sources should be added. In the coming days I will do so. ] 14:58, 9 November 2006 (UTC) This article does not seem to have a neutral point of view and projects as if India has always been a supporter of Israel and anti-Palestine. It can be verified from a number of sources that this is not the case. The biggest evidence is that India recognized the state of Palestine before as soon as it was created in 1988 but established diplomatic relations with Israel only in 1992. In fact India recognized Palestine even before Pakistan did! Also I also not know on what basis it is being said that hindus are generally pro-israel. That view is held by the sangh parivar but they do not represent the majority. Anyway sources should be added. In the coming days I will do so. ] 14:58, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
::Yes but presently the entire center right coalition is pro-Israel, not just the Sangh Parivar, so that's a substantial section. I have refs that indicate that the urban middle classes are increasingly pro-Irael, thank G-d.Plus, let's not forget the fact that even the left wing cooperated with Israel during the SI wars etc.] 20:17, 9 November 2006 (UTC)


==Gandhi did not support israel== ==Gandhi did not support israel==

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Neutral Point of View

This article does not seem to have a neutral point of view and projects as if India has always been a supporter of Israel and anti-Palestine. It can be verified from a number of sources that this is not the case. The biggest evidence is that India recognized the state of Palestine before as soon as it was created in 1988 but established diplomatic relations with Israel only in 1992. In fact India recognized Palestine even before Pakistan did! Also I also not know on what basis it is being said that hindus are generally pro-israel. That view is held by the sangh parivar but they do not represent the majority. Anyway sources should be added. In the coming days I will do so. Shahab 14:58, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes but presently the entire center right coalition is pro-Israel, not just the Sangh Parivar, so that's a substantial section. I have refs that indicate that the urban middle classes are increasingly pro-Irael, thank G-d.Plus, let's not forget the fact that even the left wing cooperated with Israel during the SI wars etc.Hkelkar 20:17, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Gandhi did not support israel

it says here that Gandhi supported the creation of israel. this is false he said that palestine was for the palestinians and that zionist settlement was wrong. read up his essay on the jewish question and it says there plainly. also, israeli participation in Suez invasion alienated Nehru from supporting israel, regarding it as colonialist puppet. Sohrab Irani 02:48, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes Gandhi did not support Israel's creation. However, several Hindu politicians, such as Vinayak Savarkar, Gowalkar and others supported Israel's creation. That needs to be added.Hkelkar 03:20, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Specifically pertaining to this ref:

http://www.nhsf.org.uk/images/stories/HinduDharma/Interfaith/hinduzion.pdf

Hkelkar 03:21, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, even I thought that Gandhi didn't support the creation of Israel. However, fact remains that Gandhi actually supported the idea of creating a Zionist state but was not very happy with the partition of the Palestinian mandate. In his view, European powers should have sought an internal solution to the problem rather than splitting Palestine into two halves: one for Jews and one for Muslims even though the population of the former Palestine mandate was overwhelmingly Muslim. He saw it being unfair to Muslims. But that doesn't mean he was against creation of a Zionist state. Another point, by publicly taking a pro-Jew stance, Gandhi didn't want to create a controversy within the newly-independent but fragile India. --Incman|वार्ता 19:22, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Gandhi was widely criticized for his views against Israel. I think there was a critique by a Rabbi that was particularly important. I will look for it. In the meantime, one must note that quite a few Hindus supported the creation of Israel, such as Savarkar and Gowalkar, both of whom praised the efforts to create Medinat Israel.Hkelkar 21:19, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Expansion

The article does not do justice to the topic as yet and I was wondering if we could work together to add more information to it. I have some refs cited in J.F.R. Jacob that may pertain to the subject (since Raphaelji is a strong supporter of India-Israel relations). Further, I have some op/eds from internationalopinion.com that I put in "External Links" on India-Israel relations on which I would like to expand. I have mainly been focussing on Indian/Indian-American news sources and was wondering if you could focus on Israeli/American news sources (Haaretz/Jerusalem Post etc.) regarding this topic so that they are both equally represented.Specifically, I would like to expand on:

  1. RAW-MOSSAD alliance
  2. Purchase of military hardware and technologies like newer RADAR technologies, Arrow Missiles etc.
  3. Academic/scientific cooperation
  4. Increased support for Zionism from the Hindu political parties
  5. Support for Israel from sections of the Urban Classes in India
  6. Mutual problems with Jihadis
  7. The Bnei Menashe issue
  8. Visit of Arik Sharon to India
  9. Visit of Jaswant Singh to Israel

Hkelkar 03:16, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

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