Misplaced Pages

Revision as of 08:31, 22 December 2004

Note: The talk page should only be used for discussion about the way the noticeboard operates: what is appropriate to put on it, how to make people aware of it, who can post and why, etc. All general admin talk should go the main page. Thanks :-)

Letting other admins know about this board

What's the best way of doing this? I can't send another message to all admins, because that will be seen as spam. So how do we let older admins know about this board? - Ta bu shi da yu 05:37, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Post about it on other pages in the Misplaced Pages: and Misplaced Pages talk: namespaces, and you can let some of your admin friends know on their talk pages, because if they're your friends they probably won't get mad. Feel free to tell me about it on my talk page! even though I already know, since I'm here.... Andre (talk) 05:58, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

I've done this... :P I've posted about this board on a few notices. We might want to let all new admins know about it. Sorry to all older admins who discover this later that you didn't get messaged by me as I'm not allowed to do this. Clearly. - Ta bu shi da yu 06:50, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

You've advertised on the Village Pump. Anyone who might be interested has seen it.-gadfium (talk) 07:04, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Not necessarily true. Had I not known about it already, I wouldn't know about it from the Village Pump because I don't check the Village Pump. I assume at least some others are the same. Andre (talk) 07:12, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

Exactly. I didn't find out about this on WP:VP, or the mailing list, or any of the usual ways, because I don't have the time to keep up with those. I happened to read about it on someone's talk page when I went to post a reply on another matter. Noel (talk) 12:34, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I rarely also check the VP because the page is just too large. I think other admins will feel the same way. Anyway, I've added to a few other places and told a few people who I don't think would mind if I messaged them. - Ta bu shi da yu 07:16, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Having this board is a good idea. -- Infrogmation 08:06, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

<AOL>Me too!</AOL> Noel (talk) 12:34, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

How about popping it in your signature for a few days? --] 10:07, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Edits to Misplaced Pages talk:Administrators alerted me to this page. Doesn't every administrator have that in their watchlist? How else would you know what you are suppose to be doing? 8-P --ssd 13:53, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Erm, I've never seen this page! Mark Richards 21:40, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I suppose that as issues come up, admins will just get directed here. For example, I contacted TBSDY about an admin related issue and he directed me here. Most admins have 10 or so odd other admins that they ask for advice on tricky issues right now, so if everyone here just starts redirecting those advice questions to this board, the word of mouth should spread pretty quickly. I think it's a great idea, in the past when i had questions i would just pick a few names off the admin list and copy and paste questions on all of their talk pages. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 18:59, Dec 14, 2004 (UTC)

Redirect gone on talk page?

Hey, why did this get removed? Most noticeboards have redirected the talk page to the normal page... after all a noticeboard is a page that's ONLY a discussion page! Unless we're going to discuss our discussions :-) can we put the redirect back again? Ta bu shi da yu 09:16, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

OK, I've put it back. Our talk is already fragmenting! - Ta bu shi da yu 11:42, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

As it should, IMO. The chatter should go on talk. -- Infrogmation 19:17, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Purpose

I'm curious what the purpose is of this board, is it merely for admins to facilitate in inter-admin communcation, or also for regular users who require assistance of some random admin? -- ] 11:21, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

I intend it for admins to talk about admin related things. Wikipedians already have Misplaced Pages:Requests for sysop attention. I've created it because there is a need for admins to communicate with one another and I have not been able to communicate things by messaging all admins. Apart from it being totally impractical to ask these things in general (we have to use the mailing list, and IMO these things should be left for Misplaced Pages), it's frowned upon to message all admins anyway when asking for help. Little admin "cliques" are formed of admins who know one another and communicate things, so different ideas on adminship are thought out. This board gives us a forum to talk about admin related tasks and issues, that way we can see what's going on and communicate thoughts on a pretty tough job. I don't mind normal users talking on the board though. We Are Not An Elite Club (aka We Are Not A Cabal). - Ta bu shi da yu 11:39, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

There already seems to be a tendency to use this board chiefly for complaints and that does not seeem right. We have Requests for sysop attention/commment/arbitration/mediation/whatnot. Can we please agree to keep complaints about individuals or their actions out of this place. Thank you. Kosebamse 21:24, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

If you're referring to the discussion about Sam Spade, I'd like to point out that I posted that to get some feedback from fellow-admins before performing a block. It wasn't meant to be a complaint. ] 21:27, Dec 16, 2004 (UTC)

Spamming all admins

Well, shooting for the whole admin list feels pretty spammy to me too, tho i question a block as response. But the notice bd is a good plan; i've gotta add that to my bookmarks. --Jerzy(t) 07:20, 2004 Dec 10 (UTC)

I was going to reply until I realised you were spamming every single admin with the same question. This is not an appropriate way to ask for comments on something so please stop doing this. WP:RFC or the VfD pages concerned would be far more appropriate venues. If you feel a need to reach hundreds of users at once, try the mailing lists. Angela. 03:47, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

Regarding your mass admin message on the matter, I'm not really sure why people are so upset about it, but I do think there are more efficient ways to contact all the admins. Maybe we need an Admin village pump. What really surprises me is that you had the patience to go through and paste the same message on 200-odd talk pages. My slack drive would kick in around the 20th. :) Andre (talk) 04:49, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

He blocked you? That makes an astounding amount of nonsense. I don't think it's worth getting upset about, though. I see you took my idle advice (or maybe someone else mentioned it as well) and made an admin notice board - good work! Andre (talk) 05:56, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

Archiving RfC-VfD discussion

When the discussion below subsides, please do archivt it all to make this page a reasonable size again... Noel (talk) 12:34, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

OK, sounds like a plan :-) Ta bu shi da yu 12:48, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

This page

I think you should advertise this page everywhere, making it clear that while it is mainly for admins, anyone can edit it. Let's not feed the cabal theorists. Filiocht 12:17, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

Sure, I agree :-) I've updated the top of the page to try to reflect what's its all about. Where else can we advertise it? Can someone post to the mailing list? - Ta bu shi da yu 12:38, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Maybe we should "spam" all the admins on their talk pages? I never even knew about this page until Sam Spade directed me to it. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 18:51, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)

ROTFLMAO! See the "Spam" header further up the page. This page got created precisely because of a spam to all admins. Although in this case, it might be OK. (Everyone who's already posted here should be avoided, of course...) Noel (talk) 20:12, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Talk and main page

I would like the distinction between this page and the talk page restored, rather than having the talk page be a redirect to this page. IMO the page would be, well, notices about things of interest or importance to admins. The talk would be for discussion about the nature of the page, what goes on it, how to promote it, etc. (This discussion should go on talk.) -- Infrogmation 19:15, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

OK, done. - Ta bu shi da yu 22:19, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The name

Shouldn't this be Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard, in the sense of a noticeboard for administrators? ] 03:53, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Technically you're right; not sure if it's worth changing it now. Noel (talk) 17:51, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Done it & fixed double redirects. -- ALoan (Talk) 18:08, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Are people finding this useful?

So far, it seems to me like one additional, duller, area of the Village Pump. -- Jmabel | Talk 07:07, Dec 22, 2004 (UTC)

I think it's a bit early to say. A lot of people still have to find their way here. But I'm pretty sure most will find a central place to contact admins very useful. It's much better than picking one from the list and hoping they're online. I say we leave the link where appropriate like talk pages of people who misplaced requests to admins and such. ] 08:31, Dec 22, 2004 (UTC)