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::You should not be changing page ranges from the full to the abbreviated form. Nor should you be taking hyphens out of ISBN numbers. Be very careful with ranges like 2315–S24, which are likely to mean a main article at some range, plus supplementary pages. (These would be better as NNN–NNN, SNN–SNN.) Your changes at ] were in no way an improvement. ] (]) 07:47, 1 January 2019 (UTC) ::You should not be changing page ranges from the full to the abbreviated form. Nor should you be taking hyphens out of ISBN numbers. Be very careful with ranges like 2315–S24, which are likely to mean a main article at some range, plus supplementary pages. (These would be better as NNN–NNN, SNN–SNN.) Your changes at ] were in no way an improvement. ] (]) 07:47, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
:::So now, Peter, with your revert, you have ], a mix of spaced and unspaced emdashes, all sorts of hyphenations in the ISBNS (which don't matter), a mix of page range presentations, and a mix of date formats for the books. You couldn't fix the "wrong" edits, but had to (re-)create inconsistent formats and MOS variations for the readers. Happy New Year. – ] (]) 08:09, 1 January 2019 (UTC) :::So now, Peter, with your revert, you have ], a mix of spaced and unspaced emdashes, all sorts of hyphenations in the ISBNS (which don't matter), a mix of page range presentations, and a mix of date formats for the books. You couldn't fix the "wrong" edits, but had to (re-)create inconsistent formats and MOS variations for the readers. Happy New Year. – ] (]) 08:09, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
::Please stop changing page ranges from the full to the abbreviated form and removing hyphens from ISBNs. ] 17:11, 4 January 2019 (UTC)


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Thank you ...

... for improving article quality in Febuary 2018! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:34, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

... and in March! Happy Easter! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:56, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

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... and in November! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:54, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Discussion on Edit

I apologize for my actions of bad faith. Thank you for your insight (AzN Egoist) 13:22, 31 October 2018 (CST)

GoodReads

I missed the GoodReads template deletion discussion, as I was travelling overseas when pinged. It's a very bad decision, based on unsound reasoning, but I don't see what can be done at this stage. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:50, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing: Indeed, procedure was violated and WP policy was ignored. But WP:DELREV allows for a second look. Please initiate. Thanks so very much! – S. Rich (talk) 07:35, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
On what grounds? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:46, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
See also Misplaced Pages:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 60#Loss of links to Goodreads. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:59, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: Thanks for the VP thread. I'm on a mobile device for the next (and past) 36 hours which makes commenting difficult. So WP must wait b4 I cast my pearls. – S. Rich (talk) 14:52, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: Perhaps now (or soon) is the time to go for a WP:DELREV. Since the closing was WP:NACD, actual deletions were performed here for books and here for authors. Thus we go to the admins, who must consider WP policies and guidelines. The grounds are two-fold: 1. "substantial procedural error" exists because notice of the TfD was short and scant. Jytdog did not notify you and other interested editors until October 31, 5 days into the discussion; there was no notice posted on the template talk pages; and there was no notice posted on interested projects such as WP:WPSPAM, WT:BOOKS, WP:WPT, or WP:WMNWRITE. (Jytdog did give notice to the templates creator, User talk:Phil Boswell.) 2. The NAC closer did not consider the issues of policy that I raised. E.g., I addressed the 4 policy reasons for deletion (none of which apply) and pointed out that hundreds of other "user-friendly" webpages are linked via templates. (In fact, the closing was made just 11 hours after my last comment.) Finally, there was not "overwhelming" support for deletion. 5 !votes and the IP definitely said delete; I and Tgeorgescus said keep; and the rest was "non-commital". Your thoughts are eagerly anticipated. – S. Rich (talk) 02:29, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018

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Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

Hello Srich32977,

Community Wishlist Survey – NPP needs you – Vote NOW
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If this proposal does not make it into the top ten, it is likely that the tools will be given no support at all for the foreseeable future. So please put in a vote today.
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With all 650 reviewers voting for these urgently needed improvements, our requests would be unlikely to fail. See also The Signpost Special report: 'NPP: This could be heaven or this could be hell for new users – and for the reviewers', and if you are not sure what the wish list is all about, take a sneak peek at an article in this month's upcoming issue of The Signpost which unfortunately due to staff holidays and an impending US holiday will probably not be published until after voting has closed.

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Cemeteries El Alamein all nations

  • S. Rich, now I found on german Wikivoyage the description of the war graves of all nations in El Alamein
 Thanks for your interest--Roland.h.bueb (talk) 17:20, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

New Skylab controversy RfC proposal

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Administrators' newsletter – December 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2018).

Administrator changes

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Interface administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

  • Following a request for comment, the Mediation Committee is now closed and will no longer be accepting case requests.
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  • A proposal has been made to temporarily restrict editing of the Main Page to interface administrators in order to mitigate the impact of compromised accounts.

Technical news

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

  • In late November, an attacker compromised multiple accounts, including at least four administrator accounts, and used them to vandalize Misplaced Pages. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately. Sharing the same password across multiple websites makes your account vulnerable, especially if your password was used on a website that suffered a data breach. As these incidents have shown, these concerns are not pure fantasies.
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NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018

Hello Srich32977,

Reviewer of the Year

This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to Onel5969. Around on Misplaced Pages since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554 reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285 edits, one of Misplaced Pages's most prolific users.

Thanks are also extended for their work to JTtheOG (15,059 reviews), Boleyn (12,760 reviews), Cwmhiraeth (9,001 reviews), Semmendinger (8,440 reviews), PRehse (8,092 reviews), Arthistorian1977 (5,306 reviews), Abishe (4,153 reviews), Barkeep49 (4,016 reviews), and Elmidae (3,615 reviews).
Cwmhiraeth, Semmendinger, Barkeep49, and Elmidae have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only seven months, while Boleyn, with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Misplaced Pages in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.

See also the list of top 100 reviewers.

Less good news, and an appeal for some help

The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640 holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.


Really good news - NPR wins the Community Wishlist Survey 2019

At #1 position, the Community Wishlist poll closed on 3 December with a resounding success for NPP, reminding the WMF and the volunteer communities just how critical NPP is to maintaining a clean encyclopedia and the need for improved tools to do it. A big 'thank you' to everyone who supported the NPP proposals. See the results.


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math error

One of your scripts produces math errors: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Sphere&diff=874493812&oldid=872808529 I fixed it. --Boehm (talk) 17:11, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

@Boehm: Thanks. I'm about done with math related vital articles, but I'll keep an eye out for the <math></math> Wiki markup. – S. Rich (talk) 18:21, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

MOS:NUMRANGE

Regarding some details of your recent edit at Johann Wolfgang von Goethe: please note the advice at MOS:NUMRANGE where full ranges are recommended. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 06:36, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Michael. However the MOS for citations allows for Chicago Manual of Style page ranges (e.g. 2 digits). My effort produced a uniform/consistent presentation of the page ranges. (It's now late, so I can't get the particular MOS for CMS citations. Perhaps tomorrow.) – S. Rich (talk) 06:53, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
You should not be changing page ranges from the full to the abbreviated form. Nor should you be taking hyphens out of ISBN numbers. Be very careful with ranges like 2315–S24, which are likely to mean a main article at some range, plus supplementary pages. (These would be better as NNN–NNN, SNN–SNN.) Your changes at Maize were in no way an improvement. Peter coxhead (talk) 07:47, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
So now, Peter, with your revert, you have WP:ALLCAPS, a mix of spaced and unspaced emdashes, all sorts of hyphenations in the ISBNS (which don't matter), a mix of page range presentations, and a mix of date formats for the books. You couldn't fix the "wrong" edits, but had to (re-)create inconsistent formats and MOS variations for the readers. Happy New Year. – S. Rich (talk) 08:09, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Please stop changing page ranges from the full to the abbreviated form and removing hyphens from ISBNs. Kanguole 17:11, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

2019


Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy 2019 -

begin it with music and memories

Thank you for your project help last year! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:48, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2019

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2018).

Administrator changes

added Galobtter
readded Orangemike
removed BorgQueen DavidrubenOceeRevolving BugbearThedaThere'sNoTimeTimcTijuana BrassTristessa de St Ange

Bureaucrat changes

removed Addshore


CheckUser changes

added Joe RoeSilkTork
removed EuryalusNewyorkbradThere'sNoTime

Oversight changes

added AGKJoe RoeSilkTork
removed EuryalusNewyorkbradThere'sNoTime

Guideline and policy news

  1. G14 (new): Disambiguation pages that disambiguate only zero or one existing pages are now covered under the new G14 criterion (discussion). This is {{db-disambig}}; the text is unchanged and candidates may be found in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as unnecessary disambiguation pages.
  2. R4 (new): Redirects in the file namespace (and no file links) that have the same name as a file or redirect at Commons are now covered under the new R4 criterion (discussion). This is {{db-redircom}}; the text is unchanged.
  3. G13 (expanded): Userspace drafts containing only the default Article Wizard text are now covered under G13 along with other drafts (discussion). Such blank drafts are now eligible after six months rather than one year, and taggers continue to use {{db-blankdraft}}.

Technical news

  • Starting on December 13, the Wikimedia Foundation security team implemented new password policy and requirements. Privileged accounts (administrators, bureaucrats, checkusers, oversighters, interface administrators, bots, edit filter managers/helpers, template editors, et al.) must have a password at least 10 characters in length. All accounts must have a password:
  1. At least 8 characters in length
  2. Not in the 100,000 most popular passwords (defined by the Password Blacklist library)
  3. Different from their username
User accounts not meeting these requirements will be prompted to update their password accordingly. More information is available on MediaWiki.org.
  • Blocked administrators may now block the administrator that blocked them. This was done to mitigate the possibility that a compromised administrator account would block all other active administrators, complementing the removal of the ability to unblock oneself outside of self-imposed blocks. A request for comment is currently in progress to determine whether the blocking policy should be updated regarding this change.
  • {{Copyvio-revdel}} now has a link to open the history with the RevDel checkboxes already filled in.

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

  • Accounts continue to be compromised on a regular basis. Evidence shows this is entirely due to the accounts having the same password that was used on another website that suffered a data breach. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately.
  • Around 22% of admins have enabled two-factor authentication, up from 20% in June 2018. If you haven't already enabled it, please consider doing so. Regardless of whether you use 2FA, please practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.

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