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| * '''Keep'''. ''Monty Python'' itself is unquestionably notable, and their universe has become so ingrained in popular culture that a list of recurring characters is more than justified on Misplaced Pages. Much of this discussion has zeroed in on "naked organist". Well, if it shouldn't be on the list then that one could be removed, but that in no way amounts to an argument for deletion. In any case, it does belong. (which is the actual scripts of the show) in snippet view has three hits for "naked organist", three hits for "nude organist" and eight hits for "organist", all on different pages. Bearing in mind that snippet view does not access the entire book, that is more than enough to show that this is a recurring character. ] says that all he could find was a passing mention of the character. That is a baffling comment; a Misplaced Pages ''page'' needs in-depth coverage, an entry on a list does not. But even that criticism is unfounded; discusses the appearance of the character in some detail – in a rather pompous, intellectual way that ''Monty Python'' would just love to have ridiculed. The short entry in tells me a factoid that is not currently in the article, that "naked organist" was filmed in Jersey. I could cite numerous other mentions in RS, but I'll give just one more that shows the character has become a cultural reference; , in which someone suggests that an organist should have performed naked like the ''Monty Python'' one a quarter of a century after the programme first aired. ]] 11:52, 2 March 2019 (UTC) | * '''Keep'''. ''Monty Python'' itself is unquestionably notable, and their universe has become so ingrained in popular culture that a list of recurring characters is more than justified on Misplaced Pages. Much of this discussion has zeroed in on "naked organist". Well, if it shouldn't be on the list then that one could be removed, but that in no way amounts to an argument for deletion. In any case, it does belong. (which is the actual scripts of the show) in snippet view has three hits for "naked organist", three hits for "nude organist" and eight hits for "organist", all on different pages. Bearing in mind that snippet view does not access the entire book, that is more than enough to show that this is a recurring character. ] says that all he could find was a passing mention of the character. That is a baffling comment; a Misplaced Pages ''page'' needs in-depth coverage, an entry on a list does not. But even that criticism is unfounded; discusses the appearance of the character in some detail – in a rather pompous, intellectual way that ''Monty Python'' would just love to have ridiculed. The short entry in tells me a factoid that is not currently in the article, that "naked organist" was filmed in Jersey. I could cite numerous other mentions in RS, but I'll give just one more that shows the character has become a cultural reference; , in which someone suggests that an organist should have performed naked like the ''Monty Python'' one a quarter of a century after the programme first aired. ]] 11:52, 2 March 2019 (UTC) | ||
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100% unsourced. This is a mix of WP:PLOT, and WP:OR. My own searching for various character names failed to come up with any WP:RS for them. Lots of ghits, but they're all Monty Python fan sites, wikipedia mirrors, and various other WP:PRIMARY and or WP:UGC sources. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:29, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Lugnuts 18:04, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 19:09, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- Keep There are plenty of reliable sources out there for this material including numerous substantial books of hundreds of pages and so the topic passes WP:LISTN. Andrew D. (talk) 20:42, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- Could you please provide specific sources? -- RoySmith (talk) 22:15, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- This is a pretty typical Andrew tactic, claiming there are sources without actually linking any. He will likely either ignore the above request for specifics, or come back with a list of sources he hasn't read that, if anyone actually checked them, would support the assertion that this topic nothing but OR. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 01:55, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
- Could you please provide specific sources? -- RoySmith (talk) 22:15, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- Searching news results for Morty Python and then each name of a reoccurring character might prove if the things listed are notable. Found brief mention for Nude Organist, but not much. Back when the show was on, where was it reviewed at, and did they mention these characters in reviews? Dream Focus 21:47, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:27, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- Delete or at least redirect to Monty Python's Flying Circus and protect to prevent unilateral recreation The fact that so many of these "characters" don't even have names supports the idea that it is OR to call them recurring characters. Maybe some of them actually are and reliable sources could be found to support that assertion, but the fact that no one has in more than 12 years makes me somewhat skeptical. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 01:55, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
- Keep ISBN 0814331033 is an entire book on the show Monty Python's Flying Circus, and discusses many of these characters in detail. The current (unsourced) text is atrocious, but AFD is not cleanup. I'll make some removals of content that I can't verify. power~enwiki (π, ν) 02:03, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
- I'll be happy to withdraw my nomination if you can find good sourcing. That book certainly looks promising, but I'm not yet convinced. I looked up one character, the naked organist. All I could find was a passing mention on page 9: "Jones ... also appeared as a hustler, a naked organist, a salesman ..." That's better than what we've got now (i.e. nothing), but it's a far cry from discussing the character in detail. To be fair, I only spot-checked this one. I'll be happy to look at more when you find them. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:34, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. Monty Python itself is unquestionably notable, and their universe has become so ingrained in popular culture that a list of recurring characters is more than justified on Misplaced Pages. Much of this discussion has zeroed in on "naked organist". Well, if it shouldn't be on the list then that one could be removed, but that in no way amounts to an argument for deletion. In any case, it does belong. The Complete Monty Python's Flying Circus, volume 2 (which is the actual scripts of the show) in snippet view has three hits for "naked organist", three hits for "nude organist" and eight hits for "organist", all on different pages. Bearing in mind that snippet view does not access the entire book, that is more than enough to show that this is a recurring character. User:RoySmith says that all he could find was a passing mention of the character. That is a baffling comment; a Misplaced Pages page needs in-depth coverage, an entry on a list does not. But even that criticism is unfounded; Something Completely Different: British Television and American Culture discusses the appearance of the character in some detail – in a rather pompous, intellectual way that Monty Python would just love to have ridiculed. The short entry in Monty Python's Flying Circus: An Utterly Complete, Thoroughly Unillustrated, Absolutely Unauthorized Guide to Possibly All the References tells me a factoid that is not currently in the article, that "naked organist" was filmed in Jersey. I could cite numerous other mentions in RS, but I'll give just one more that shows the character has become a cultural reference; Planningweek: The Journal of the Royal Town Planning Institute, in which someone suggests that an organist should have performed naked like the Monty Python one a quarter of a century after the programme first aired. SpinningSpark 11:52, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
- Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Keep, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam. Coolabahapple (talk) 22:26, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
- Keep: per Spinningspark.