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== Patrick Moore is not a Greenpeace co-founder ==
'''''is not''''' a Greenpeace co-founder. He lied. He's a coal industry lobbyist and only worked for Greenpeace's Canada branch for some time, which he used as a credential to back his lobbying for polluting industries. Greenpeace disowned him multiple times. His criticism of AOC therefore has serious conflict of interest issues and including that in the AOC page would be POV and a serious violation of ] guidelines. The other editor were correct. Any sensible person would recognize that as a something from a deranged lunatic. This is a place for you to complain about leftists either. Please stop. ]]] 20:20, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

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I've reverted you there as your edit was against our guideline at WP:ERA. I see a lot of warnings above, and no responses, which is unfortunate. However, your edit at Cassowary looks constructive, which is great. Dougweller (talk) 13:18, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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  1. Tyler Ford (August 7, 2015). "My life without gender: 'Strangers are desperate to know what genitalia I have'". The Guardian.

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Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you violate Misplaced Pages's neutral point of view policy by inserting commentary or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Levivich 21:09, 21 February 2019 (UTC) Please stop trying to change it to "socialist" (diff, diff). You can start a discussion and try to seek consensus on the talk page. Levivich 21:10, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

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Hi John! I need like a half hour to write out a response to your questions on my talk page about why I reverted you and "what the problem is" with your edits. However, in the meantime, you should stop edit warring on that page immediately. It's under discretionary sanctions, and furthermore, it's a WP:1RR page, which means you can't keep putting back language after you've been reverted–you only get one revert per 24 hours, and every time you put "socialist" back in, that counts as a revert. Please self-revert these edits that you just made: diff, diff, diff. An admin has placed a DS notice (just above this thread), and while I'm not an admin and I'm just going to write an answer to your questions and I myself can't take any kind of action, some other admin might come along and block you for violating the 1RR rule. I strongly urge you to self-revert those edits and don't put them back, at least until I've had a chance to write a longer explanation about this issue, which I will do shortly. Thanks. Levivich 17:09, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi again. Your posts on my talk page boil down to two questions: How could I possible violate any policy by stating that Ocasio Cortes is a socialist? ... There was no reason to revert my edit. and What on earth is wrong with calling her a socialist?. The former is about conduct and the latter is about content, so here are my answers. Levivich 18:08, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

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How could I possible violate any policy by stating that Ocasio Cortes is a socialist?

Totally irrespective of any particular content issue (e.g., whether or not AOC is a "socialist"), there is the issue of a conduct policy violation. The policy is WP:1RR, which is a stricter version of WP:3RR, part of our edit warring policy. Because Misplaced Pages is "an encyclopedia that anyone can edit", the only way that can work without becoming chaos is if we all agree not to repeatedly put in the same content over and over again (not to "edit war"). You've been doing this at Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: You added "socialist" and "radical group" on Feb 19, it was reverted by an editor other than me; you changed "progressive" to "socialist" on Feb 21, it was reverted by me; you again changed "progressive" to "socialist" on Feb 22, it was reverted by a third editor; you again changed "progressive" to "socialist" less than an hour later, part of the three recent edits that I urged you to self-revert above (and still urge you to self-revert, for the reasons I explain here).

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People take 1RR seriously even if they agree with your edit. For example, when I recently crossed the 1RR line, an editor notified me on my talk page within minutes pointing it out and asking me to self-revert. I did self-revert. The same editor then used up their 1RR to revert the same edit I reverted. My point is that this 1RR conduct policy is taken very seriously and people even put aside their feelings about content to make sure this rule is enforced.

To put it bluntly, if you mess around with 1RR, it's only a matter of time until an admin sees it and blocks you, and as of right now, you may be "vulnerable" to being blocked because you have an un-reverted 1RR violation sitting there.

I noticed that while I was typing this, you edited the article to add "progressive" back in. I appreciate the effort at compromise, but I'm not sure that will be seen as a self-revert by an admin, and also the article now says "progressive socialist", which doesn't make a lot of sense (and isn't a term I think used by any reliable sources). Levivich 18:08, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

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What on earth is wrong with calling her a socialist?

Two things:

  1. You don't have consensus to call her a "socialist." As a basic matter, you'd have to discuss this on the article talk page and gain consensus for making the edit. That's how the bold, revert, discuss method works. You made a bold edit; it was reverted; rather than putting it back (a 1RR violation), the next step is to discuss on the talk page.
  2. The reliable sources may not support "socialist". This has been discussed on the article talk page here, here, here, and here, and probably other places that I'm missing. If you raise a discussion on the article talk page, it won't go anywhere unless you bring new sources that haven't been discussed before that call her a "socialist".

It doesn't matter if you or I or any of us think she is or isn't a "socialist". Basing the content on what we think would be original research. What matters is what the reliable sources say. I think the only way you'll get consensus for describing her as "socialist" in the article is if you can show reliable sources using that label. (Note that "democratic socialist" is not the same thing as "socialist", nor is "social democrat".) To make sure a source is reliable, check the WP:RSP list of perennial sources, and also search the archives at the WP:RSN reliable sources noticeboard.

I hope this helps. Levivich 18:08, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Do not reinsert material which has been removed unless there is clear consensus on the talk page that it should be included in the article. You need to engage in the consensus-building discussion process and not attempt to force through your proposed changes. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 13:25, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

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Patrick Moore is not a Greenpeace co-founder

is not a Greenpeace co-founder. He lied. He's a coal industry lobbyist and only worked for Greenpeace's Canada branch for some time, which he used as a credential to back his lobbying for polluting industries. Greenpeace disowned him multiple times. His criticism of AOC therefore has serious conflict of interest issues and including that in the AOC page would be POV and a serious violation of BLP guidelines. The other editor were correct. Any sensible person would recognize that as a something from a deranged lunatic. This is a place for you to complain about leftists either. Please stop. Tsumikiria 🌹🌉 20:20, 13 March 2019 (UTC)