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Mann Gulch

Hi Mongo, thanks for weighing in on the Mann Gulch fire article. I've requested it be locked down for a bit. The problem with the new editor is that he tossed so much of the existing content and replaced it with that timeline, which is not well-written at all. I tried to clean it up at first, but gave up. The things like ridiculously long quotes in the footnotes is cruft, and the improper formatting of images makes the article unreadable on my laptop (unless one likes three-word columns on the left). Overall, I think that the narrative that Yankeepapa13 did was pretty nice and while a timeline of sorts could be added, it should not replace the earlier content. Frankly, I think that taking the article to FAC eventually is a great idea, and though I'm not in a spot right now to do much of the heavy lifting, I did contribute some images a while back. I'd prefer to step out and let you folks who work on this area take charge. Maybe the other editor will calm down and realize that everyone here has the same goal... well-written, factual articles. Montanabw 20:51, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Thank you for all your efforts there. I concur some of the timeline is possibly a good idea but prefer it be worked into the article as part of the narrative, not as a form of bullet-pointed format as was done.--MONGO (talk) 12:28, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

I mentioned you in the relevant AN thread concerning CerroFerro. Acroterion (talk) 00:40, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Mentioned at ANI

Your edits are relevant to and have been brought up in this discussion, and so I'm giving you the necessary notification. Best, Vanamonde (Talk) 00:50, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

You mean AN - see immediately above. Acroterion (talk) 00:51, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Aaand I just saw this. Jeez. My excuse was that by the time I'd put all the diffs into my AN edits, I didn't have the time left to do notifications properly before I had to leave the house. Apologies. Vanamonde (Talk) 04:18, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Its all fine so no worries whatsoever!--MONGO (talk) 16:24, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Please cease your disruptive editing to push your flagrantly obvious POV

that you have clearly demonstrated on the Donald Trump article. Thank you.soibangla (talk) 19:11, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Looks like a personal attack to me.--MONGO (talk) 19:16, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Please do not attempt to intimidate me with bogus accusations. Thank you. soibangla (talk) 19:23, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

You're edit warring. You're making personal attacks.--MONGO (talk) 19:29, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Takes two to edit war, and you started it by falsely asserting that I was injecting POV, when in fact I was adding 100% factual, impartial data. Cheers! soibangla (talk) 19:32, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

You were reverted by 2 people. I reminded you about it cause 3RR is NOT an entitlement.--MONGO (talk) 19:36, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

I am not in violation of policy. Do not attempt to intimidate me. We are done here. soibangla (talk) 19:38, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Have a wonderful day! Hope you can go find a unicorn dancing in a pretty field of daisies!--MONGO (talk) 19:42, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

First Edit Day!

Hey, MONGO. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Misplaced Pages Birthday Committee! Have a great day! A 10 fireplane 17:54, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Yup..I am 14 years old now!--MONGO (talk) 18:03, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

That and 72,000 edits, very impressive 👏 A 10 fireplane 18:25, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you!--MONGO (talk) 18:26, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

No problem A 10 fireplane 18:35, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Open your eyes...

, .

Thanks, angry Fox grandpa. Now I'm properly mad at minorities again, like the good lord intended. PeterTheFourth (talk) 07:47, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Why are you making personal attacks? I merely posted a couple of video links.--MONGO (talk) 11:28, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

did you see the Reason article? Sir Joseph 13:42, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Will have to check that out....or a link works.--MONGO (talk) 15:10, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

there's also a Reddit thread going around with over two hours of Cicer and links showing what really happened. Basically nobody should ever spread news based on one video without checking if other videos exist.Sir Joseph 15:40, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Absolutely. When I first read the story it was on Facebook and it was just that short video that was posted and could easily be taken out of context and it was obviously.--MONGO (talk) 21:18, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

this is the same guy who accused college students here in this now deleted story: Sir Joseph 02:05, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Its an easy equation...the teens were there to visit the monuments and see the sights. Phillips was there to be an activist as were the 4 guys screeching at the teens that they were born of "incest" and were screeching homophobic insults. One guy that was accompanying Phillips told the teens they need to go back to Europe and other nonsense. Phillip's comment "There was that moment when I realized I've put myself between beast and prey," Phillips said. "These young men were beastly and these old black individuals was their prey, and I stood in between them and so they needed their pounds of flesh and they were looking at me for that." is a pure unadulterated lie and bullshit yet the left wing loony tune media sucked it up cause it fits their narrative of white teens+MAGA hats=SATAN.--MONGO (talk) 14:12, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

...--MONGO (talk) 18:52, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Best narrative and take to date from The Atlantic. Read the entire piece. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8800:1300:4B4:0:0:0:1001 (talk) 04:24, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Past 10 days we have seen two blatant examples of "news" sources pretending to do reporting rushing to conclusions before they do any independent verification. So slanted are they, that anything that fits their predetermined biases, they assume it must be true. But I think its a bit more nefarious than this really, since the goal is to get the headline out as fast as possible, they would rather get everyone pissed off about this sort of thing, and then if mandatory issue some sort of qualifying retraction, than lose out on the chance for their advertisers to get seen. News IS a business afterall, driven by viewership and the ability to use that as a force to drive advertising fees and in turn sell their product.--MONGO (talk) 13:27, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

fair use question

Hey friend- I am working with another user on something and ran into a situation, maybe you can shed some light on: He was trying to add File:Albert Flasher.png to the article on The Guess Who, and I reverted it, explaining on his talk page that that image as fair use and could only be used on the article about the actual recording. So I was going to use The Beatles article to illustrate that there were no album covers there and lo and behold, I found File:Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.jpg with fair use criteria for The Beatles article. I didn't know you could do this. I actually put a message on User talk:Moe Epsilon because he review the SPLHCB fair use criteria in 2011, but I don't know how soon he is going to get back to me. Is this an area you know anything about? --rogerd (talk) 21:37, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Actually it is an area I know nothing about and have previously had to ask others who do know something about Fair Use. I would maybe look here and the section below that to help determine what the policy is. Sorry I am so little help on this particular matter!--MONGO (talk) 03:40, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Well Moe did get back to me and gave me some guidance. Not my area of expertise either. --rogerd (talk) 04:40, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Rogerd, since the song it represents is included as passing mention in The Guess Who, I agree that it fails the fair use criteria for inclusion and also agree that shortening your original edit summary for removal was proper. 18:52, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Ah, someone who knows what they are talking about...finally, cause I dun know nuthing.--MONGO (talk) 19:36, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Inactive

Being bold, I have changed the status of wikiprojectNebraska from semi-active to inactive. As an afterthought, I decided to check out a few of the "active" project members, and arrived here. Perhaps I am over-hasty. You certainly are busy as a beaver, and working on NB topics. Despite the inactivity of the PAGE, mayhap the projecteers carry on? If you feel I have over-reached, please feel free to revert me. Thank you for your long service. It is refreshing to find editors of the 'ought' era still keeping the dream alive. rags (talk) 02:41, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

I see that it is not active at all. Project space seem to have gotten far less activity than in the past and this is due to so few people maintaining them that in turn is due to so few active editors anymore compared to the past. I suppose I start working on Nebraska subjects some more I can reactivate it then.--MONGO (talk) 19:52, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Toa Nidhiki05

I misread the date of the last blocking. I have reduced the length to 24 hours. I blocked them because they were the only one to revert four times in 24 hours. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 09:20, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes...that's better. I suppose I prefer page protection over blocks and while he may have been the only one to exceed the 3RR rules it's still not an entitlement as you know and others constantly tag-team revert right up to that limit. Looking at the edits I'd have to say I concur with Toa's stance that such an edit does need better attribution for context, but I suppose that argument is better placed at the article talkpage.--MONGO (talk) 09:45, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Usually I would protect so they could talk but in this case it seemed a bit too much. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 09:48, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

FLASHBACK: ABC Promoted Lunatic 9/11 Conspiracy Theories on The View

FLASHBACK: ABC Promoted Lunatic 9/11 Conspiracy Theories on The View. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 20:15, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Not sure I'd say the network promoted it as much as that wingnut did. Lunatics come in all flavors.--MONGO (talk) 04:45, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Useful tools

For when a trout just isn't enough. _Talk 📧 21:45, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

I probably need a slap from a bigger fish, like a Pallid sturgeon.--MONGO (talk) 02:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

_Talk 📧 04:38, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Steamboat Geyser

Hello, this is Pullchain123. I am adding this section to your talk page to briefly talk about Steamboat Geyser. The new content I inserted on Steamboat's page regarding a geyser that broke out in 1922 (Yellowstone's fiftieth anniversary, hence the name Semi-Centennial) and erupted 300 feet or more. Also, Steamboat erupted on April 8, at 8:44 PM. Please click these links if you don't believe me: https://books.google.com/books?id=WM-UZl0aGXkC&pg=PA401&lpg=PA401&dq=how+tall+is+semi+centennial+geyser&source=bl&ots=hoI5GBmrSx&sig=ACfU3U103Y5hihogVjL7W3aRm73lmRFvkg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXiZnsrMnhAhXwmOAKHR_aCZ8Q6AEwB3oECAUQAQ#v=onepage&q=how%20tall%20is%20semi%20centennial%20geyser&f=false

http://geysertimes.org/geyser.php?id=Steamboat — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pullchain123 (talk • contribs) 01:10, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

I did some more research and added another ref.--MONGO (talk) 13:31, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks man! -Pullchain123 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.16.174.243 (talk) 15:44, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

One in a million....not in a million years...

The report wasn't good enough...the summary of the report wasn't good enough...so there MUST be something in those redacted parts! Yes...there is a chance!!! . It is safe to say that's not dumb or dumber but it sure is inconcievably stupid.--MONGO (talk) 01:42, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

In hindsight

Wondering if I could ask you one question about this comment of yours? I know it's been a long, long time; so if you don't feel confident enough to engage on it, I understand. - Wacomshera (talk) 17:54, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Ok..whats the question?--MONGO (talk) 18:08, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

thank you for the quick reply. The question is, since the December 2014 award of $500,000 that he pledged to fight for human rights, how much of the money do you think has actually been spent fighting for human rights, now that it's over four years later? - Wacomshera (talk) 18:11, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

No idea. Have you asked him?--MONGO (talk) 21:58, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

That entire thread is at bottom of the collapsed section here--MONGO (talk) 22:08, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

No, I haven't asked him. Like Trump, his answers are more likely to be fictional than factual. I was more concerned about what you believe is the truth here, since I thought you to be an intelligent investigator and able to discern truth from bullshit, plus a fan of Blazing Saddles. - Wacomshera (talk) 19:36, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Sorry I cant help you. I see no reason you cant ask him. If someone removes it for trolling you can perhaps email him.--MONGO (talk) 01:16, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Personal attack

Mongo, you made a personal attack on a page where I am not allowed to respond. May I politely suggest that this does not engender a congenial atmosphere. O3000 (talk) 22:37, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

All CAPS for my username. You shouldn't have insulted my comment as you did then. You reap what you sow.--MONGO (talk) 00:08, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

• I don't know if I'm required to post this, so I will in an abundance of caution. I started an WP:ANI thread related to you, MONGO. The content of my post was simply, "Eyes needed there before things get out of hand." R2 (bleep) 23:07, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

  I'm a delicate fragile little flower and have to retreat to my safe space and pet my stuffed rainbow colored unicorn...therefore I am unable to attend. Hugs and kisses.--MONGO (talk) 00:27, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

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The_safe_space_critic has logged on. Bit rich coming from the old crank who throws a fit half the time I comment on his talk. PeterTheFourth (talk) 04:13, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

"Old crank". Oh Peter you are so witty.--MONGO (talk) 04:30, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

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