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| Photo = ] | |||
| Type = ] | |||
| Released = August, 1982 | |||
| Discontinued = April, 1994 | |||
| Processor = ] @ 1.02 MHz (NTSC version) / 0.99MHz (PAL version) | |||
| Memory = 64KB | |||
| OS = Commodore BASIC 2.0 | |||
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The '''Commodore 64''' is the best selling single ] model of all time.<ref>{{ cite web | first = Leander | last = Kahney | url = http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,60349-0.html | title = Grandiose Price for a Modest PC | publisher = Lycos | work = Wired | accessdate = 2006-10-25 }}</ref> Released in August 1982, the Commodore 64 is commonly referred to as the '''C64''' (sometimes written '''C= 64''' to mimic the Commodore company logo) and occasionally known as '''CBM64''' (its model designation), '''C-64''' or '''VIC-64''' (a label used by some users, magazine writers, third party advertisements and also by Commodore in Sweden ). The Commodore 64 casing has affectionately been nicknamed the "breadbox" and "bullnose" due to its shape. | |||
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Introduced by ] in August 1982 at a price of ]595, it offered 64 ]s of ] with sound and graphics performance that compared favourably with IBM-compatible computers of that time. During the Commodore 64's lifetime (between 1982 and 1994), sales totaled around 17 million units.<ref>{{ cite web | title = A World Record for 2002 | last = Walters | first = Marc | url = http://groups.google.com/group/alt.c64/msg/d5b890f317d972fd | work = 1993 Commodore Annual Report | accessdate = 2006-10-26 }}</ref> | |||
Unlike computers that were distributed only through authorized dealers, Commodore also targeted ]s and toy stores. The unit could be plugged directly into a television set to play games, giving it much of the appeal of dedicated ]s like the ]. Its affordable pricing contributed to the ]. | |||
Approximately 10,000 commercial ] titles were made for the Commodore 64 including development tools, office applications, and games. The machine is also credited with popularizing the computer ]. The Commodore 64 is still used today by many computer hobbyists, and ] allow anyone with a modern computer (or even smartphones such as the ]) to run these programs on their desktop (with varying degrees of success and functionality). | |||
== help! == | |||
The Commodore 64 is commonly seen as an icon of the ]. An example is the introductory movie of the video game ], which features a Commodore 64 screen which later reveals the ] logo. | |||
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== History == | |||
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In January 1981, ], Inc., Commodore's ] design subsidiary, initiated a project to design the graphic and audio chips for a next generation ]. Design work for the chips, named ] (graphics) and ] (audio), was completed in November 1981. | |||
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A game console project was then initiated by Commodore that would use the new chips -- called the ''Ultimax'' or alternatively the '']'', engineered by ] from Commodore Japan. This project was eventually cancelled after just a few machines were manufactured for the Japanese market. | |||
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At the same time ] (system programmer and architect on the VIC-20) and ] (engineer of the SID) were critical of the current product line-up at Commodore, which was a continuation of the ] line aimed at business users. With the support of ] (engineer of the VIC-II) and ] (manager of MOS Technology), they proposed to Commodore CEO ] a true low-cost sequel to the VIC-20. Tramiel dictated that the machine should have 64KB of RAM. Although 64 kB of ] cost over US $100 at the time, he knew that DRAM prices were falling, and would soon drop to an acceptable level before full production was reached. | |||
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In November, Tramiel set a deadline for the first weekend of January, to coincide with the 1982 ]. | |||
== Continuing the discussion... == | |||
The product was ]d the '''VIC-40''' as the successor to the popular ''']'''. The team that constructed it consisted of Robert Russell, Robert "Bob" Yannes and David A. Ziembicki. The design, prototypes and some sample software was finished in time for the show, after the team had worked tirelessly over both Thanksgiving and Christmas weekends. | |||
On your talk page this time. You stated: "your current vote likely will confuse the hell out of a lot of users..." How many users who voted '''support''' actually understand the C# code TawkerBotTorA is written in ? ] | |||
When the product was to be presented, the VIC-40 product was renamed '''C64''' in order to fit into the current Commodore business products lineup which contained the ''P128'' and the ''B256'', both named by a letter and their respective memory size. | |||
== Retrieval == | |||
The C64 made an impressive debut, as recalled by Production Engineer David A. Ziembicki: "All we saw at our booth were Atari people with their mouths dropping open, saying, 'How can you do that for $595?'" The answer, as it turned out, was ]; thanks to Commodore's ownership of ]'s ] facilities, each C64 had an estimated production cost of only $135. However, cheaper manufacturing techniques resulted in manufacturing problems; during its launch, one in three Commodore 64s proved defective.{{cn}} Many of these early units had video problems causing a blurry effect that made alphanumeric characters difficult to read. | |||
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=== Winning the market war === | |||
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The C64 faced a wide range of competing ]s at its introduction in August 1982. With an impressive price point coupled with the 64's advanced hardware, it quickly out-classed many of its competitors. In the ] the greatest competitors to the C64 were the ], ] and ]. The ] 400/800 was very similar in hardware terms, but it was very expensive to build, which forced Atari to redesign their machine to be more cost effective. This resulted in the 600XL/800XL line and the transfer of their production to the Far East. The IBM PC and the now aging Apple II were no match for the C64's graphical and sound abilities, but they were very expandable with their internal expansion slots, a feature lacking in the 64. | |||
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All three machines had a standard memory configuration of 16K, 48K less RAM than the C64. At US$1,500, the IBM PC and Apple II were 3 times as expensive, while the Atari 800 cost a mere $899. One key to the C64's success was Commodore's aggressive marketing tactics, and they were quick to exploit the relative price/performance divisions between its competitors with a series of television commercials after the C64's launch in late 1982. | |||
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Commodore sold the C64 not only through its network of authorized dealers, but also placed it on the shelves of department stores, discount stores, and toy stores. Since it had the ability to output ], the C64 did not require a specialized monitor, but could be plugged into a television set. This allowed it (like its predecessor, the VIC-20) to compete directly against video game consoles such as the Atari 2600. | |||
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Aggressive pricing of the C64 is considered to be a major catalyst in the ]. In 1983, Commodore offered a $100 ] in the United States on the purchase of a C64 upon receipt of any video game console or computer. To take advantage of the $100 rebate, some mail-order dealers and retailers offered a ] for as little as $10 with purchase of a C64 so the consumer could send the computer to Commodore, collect the rebate, and pocket the difference.<ref name="doorstop">A contemporary rumor stated that while Commodore scavenged most trade-in computers for spare parts, its employees used the TS1000s as ]s.</ref> ] departed the marketplace within a year. The success of the VIC-20 and C64 also contributed significantly to the exit of ]' ] and other competitors from the field. | |||
Hello! The vandalbot tagged me as a vandal by mistake; I think that it may be because I forgot to sign a comment on ] but other than that I am pretty sure that I am not a vandal! ] 20:45, 29 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
In 1984, Commodore released the ]. The Plus/4 offered a higher-color display, a better implementation of ] (V3.5), and built-in software. However, Commodore committed what was perceived by critics and consumers as a major strategic error by making it incompatible with the C64. To top it all off, the Plus/4 lacked hardware ] capability and had much poorer sound, thus seriously underperforming in two of the areas that had made the C64 a star. | |||
== Benton Academy == | |||
In the ], the primary competitors to the C64 were the British-built ] ] and the ]. Released a few months ahead of the C64, and selling for almost half the price, the Spectrum quickly became the market leader. Commodore would have an uphill struggle against the Spectrum, it could no longer rely on undercutting the competition. The C64 debuted at £399 in early 1983, while the Spectrum cost £175. The C64 would later rival the Spectrum in popularity in the latter half of the 1980s, eventually outliving the Spectrum (which was discontinued in 1992). | |||
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Despite a few attempts by Commodore to discontinue the C64 in favour of other, higher priced machines, constant demand made its | |||
discontinuation a hard task. By 1988, Commodore were selling 1.5 million C64s worldwide. Although demand for the C64 dropped off in the US by 1990, it continued to be popular in the UK and other European countries. In the end, economics, not obsolescence sealed the C64's fate. In March 1994 at ] in ] ], Commodore announced that the C64 would be finally discontinued in 1995. Commodore claimed that the C64's ] was more expensive to manufacture than the C64 itself. Although Commodore had planned to discontinue the C64 by 1995, the company filed for bankruptcy a month later, in April 1994. | |||
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=== The C64 family === | |||
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1982: Commodore releases the ] in Japan. It is called the '''Ultimax''' in the US, and '''VC-10''' in Germany. The MAX was intended to be a game console with limited computing capability. It was discontinued months after its introduction, because of poor sales in Japan. | |||
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In 1984 Commodore released the ], a portable version of the C64. The SX-64 has the distinction of being the first ''full-color'' portable computer. The base unit featured a 5 inch (127 mm) ] and an integral ] floppy disk drive. | |||
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Commodore was determined to avoid the problems of the Plus/4, making sure that the eventual successors to the C64—the ] and 128D computers (1985)—were as good as, and fully compatible with the original, as well as offering a host of improvements (such as a structured BASIC with graphics and sound commands, 80-column display capability, and full CP/M compatibility). | |||
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In 1986, Commodore released the '''Commodore 64C''' ('''C64C''') computer, which was functionally identical to the original, but whose exterior design was remodelled in the sleeker style of the C128 and other contemporary design trends. In the ], the C64C was often bundled with the third-party ] ]-based operating system. The ] disk drive was also remodelled resulting in the 1541-II. | |||
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In 1990, the C64 was re-released in the form of a game console, called the ] ('''C64GS'''). A simple modification to the C64C's motherboard was made to orient the cartridge connector to a vertical position. This allowed cartridges to be inserted from above. A modified ROM replaced the BASIC interpreter with a boot screen to inform the user to insert a cartridge. The C64GS was another commercial failure for Commodore, and it was never released outside of Europe. | |||
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In 1990, an advanced successor to the C64, the ] (also known as the "C64DX"), was prototyped, but the project was cancelled by Commodore's chairman ] in 1991. The C65's specifications were very good for an 8-bit computer. For example, it could display 256 colours on screen, while ] based Amigas could only display 64. Although no specific reason was given for the C65's cancellation, it seemed that it was a conflict of interest with lower end Amigas. The ] was released in mid 1992, eventually taking the C65's place as an advanced C64 upgrade. | |||
== Kanab Ambersnail == | |||
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Can you unprotect ]? Usually articles linked from the front page such as the article of the day are not protected. This is the 1.5millionth article for the encyclopedia "anyone" can edit. -] <small><sup>(])</sup></small> 20:03, 25 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
===C64 clones=== | |||
In the summer of 2004, after an absence from the marketplace of more than 10 years, PC manufacturer ] (owners of the Commodore brand since 1997) announced the ] '''(C64DTV)''', a ]-based ] based on the C64 with 30 games built into ROM. Designed by ], a self-taught computer designer who had earlier designed the modern ] C64 implementation, the C64DTV was similar in concept to other mini-consoles based on the ] and ] which had gained modest success earlier in the decade. The product was advertised on ] in the United States for the 2004 holiday season. Some users have installed ] floppy disk drives, hard drives, second joysticks and keyboards to these units, which give the DTV devices nearly all of the capabilities of a full Commodore 64. The DTV hardware is also used in the mini-console/game '']'', sold at ] mid-2005. | |||
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], C64 enthusiasts still develop new hardware, including ] cards, specially adapted ]s and ] Card interfaces. | |||
Hi -- just curious why you swapped out the enhanced version of the main photo on the ] article for the older unenhanced one. It's not my work, but I thought the enhanced version looked somewhat better. Your edit summary just says 'update' -- maybe I'm missing something? Not a big deal either way, I'm just wondering. -- ]<sup><font color="black">]</font></sup> 06:46, 26 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
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:] was commenting how the auto balance really faded it out, personally the first one looks more realistic IMO -- ] 07:04, 26 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
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::Okay, just figured I'd ask since I didn't see the discussion. Was this on commons? Anyway, "more realistic" does seem like a fair criticism, and I'll pretty much always defer to what others think on photo-quality-related issues since I don't have the best eye for that kind of thing. Thanks for clarifying. -- ]<sup><font color="black">]</font></sup> 07:30, 26 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Thanx == | |||
At the time of its introduction, the C64's graphics and sound capabilities were rivalled only by the ]. This was at a time when most IBM PCs and compatibles had text-only graphics cards, ] monitors, and sound consisting of squeaks and beeps from the built-in tiny, low-quality ]. | |||
Asteroidz R not planetz here. Just saying thanx for preventing further embarressment for me, about the committee thing. I'm new and didn't realise there were such high standards.] 12:56, 26 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
Due to its advanced graphics and sound, the C64 is often credited with starting the computer subculture known as the ] (see ]). The C64 lost its top position among demo coders when the ] ] and ] were released in 1985, however it still remained a very popular platform for demo coding upto the early 90s. | |||
By the turn of the millennium, it is still being actively used as a demo machine, especially for music (its ] even being used in special sound cards for PCs, and the ] synthesizer). Unfortunately, the differences between ] and ] C64s caused compatibility problems between US/Canadian C64s and those from most other countries. The vast majority of demos run only on PAL machines. | |||
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=== Graphics and sound === | |||
Is there a copyright on this? :-) <b><font face="trebuchet ms" color="FF9999">]</font><font color="green" face="trebuchet ms">]</font><font color="gold" face="trebuchet ms">]</font><font face="trebuchet ms" color="FF9999">]</font><font face="trebuchet ms" color="A6F591">]</font></b> 05:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
The C64 used an ] ] ] (a close derivative of the ] with an added 6-bit internal I/O port that in the C64 is used for two purposes: to bank-switch the machine's ] in and out of the processor's address space, and to operate the ] tape recorder) and had 64 ]s of ], of which 38 kB were available to built-in ]. | |||
::{{pd}} :) -- 06:21, 27 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Well-deserved barnstar == | |||
The graphics chip, ], featured 16 colors, eight ], ] capabilities, and two bitmap graphics modes. The standard text mode featured 40 columns, like most ] models; the built in ] was not standard ] but ], an extended form of ]. ]/] and ] programmers quickly learned how to exploit the more esoteric features of the VIC-II to gain additional capabilities, like making more than 8 sprites appear, and move, simultaneously. | |||
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The sound chip, ], had three channels, each with its own ] generator, and with several different ]s, ] and filter capabilities. It too, was very advanced for its time. It was designed by ], who would later co-found synthesizer company ]. Yannes criticized other contemporary computer sound chips as "primitive, obviously (...) designed by people who knew nothing about music." Often the game music became a hit of its own among C64 users. Well-known composers and programmers of game music on the C64 were ], ], ] and ], among many others. Due to the chip's limitation to three channels, chords were played as ]s typically, coining the C64's characteristic lively sound. | |||
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: Hear, hear! ] ] 05:22, 28 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
There are two versions of the SID chip, the first version was the MOS Technology 6581, which is to be found in all of the original "breadbox" C64s, and early versions of the C64C and the ]. It was later replaced with the MOS Technology 8580 in 1987. The sound quality was a little more crisp on the 6581 and many Commodore 64 fans still prefer its sound. The main difference between the 6581 and the 8580 was the voltage supply: the 6581 uses a 12 volt supply, while the 8580 required only 9 volts. A voltage modification can be made to use a 6581 in a C64C board (which uses 9V). | |||
: Amazing, now drama will ensue without the GNAA folks even raising a finger! Nice way of ”not feeding the trolls”. ] 06:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
The SID chip has a distinctive sound which retained a following of devotees. In 1999, Swedish company ] produced a ] synth module, built around the SID chip, using remaining stocks of the chip. Several bands use these devices in their music. | |||
== Closing of GNAA AFD after only 2 days? == | |||
=== Hardware revisions === | |||
Why did you close a AFD after only 2 days? It is obviously a contentious issue and should be discussed. --] 06:16, 28 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
Cost reduction was the driving force for hardware revisions to the C64's motherboard. Reducing manufacturing costs was vitally important to Commodore's survival during the price war and leaner years of the 16-bit era. The C64's original (] based) motherboard would go through two major redesigns, (and numerous sub-revisions) exchanging positions of the VIC-II, SID and ] chips. Initially, a large proportion of the cost was lowered by reducing the number of discrete components used, such as diodes and resistors. | |||
On that note, for the trolling you will have to withstand as a result, Tawker, I award you the Big Brass Balls. ]] 11:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Dude, you got a massive pair of balls. You used them well. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 23:10, 28 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
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:And I was just starting to look around for a barnstar, LOL. The one above is perfect. Cheers, ] ] 01:21, 29 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
The VIC-II was manufactured with 5 ] NMOS technology, clocked at 8 MHz. At such a high clock rate, it generated a lot of heat, forcing MOS Technology to use a ceramic ] (called a "CERDIP"). The ceramic package was more expensive, but it dissipated heat more effectively than plastic. | |||
Well done, friend, well done. I've wanted to and never had the guts. ] 01:52, 29 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
GNAA got deleted? wow... anyhow I was wondering if you could subst the deleted ] somewhere to make it easier to look at the (long) history of these many bizare nominations. --]-] 03:43, 29 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
After a redesign in 1983, the VIC-II was encased in a plastic DIL package, which reduced costs substantially, but it did not eliminate the heat problem. Without a ceramic package, the VIC-II required the use of a ]. To avoid extra cost, the metal ] ] doubled as the heatsink for the VIC, although not all units shipped with this type of shielding. Most C64s in ] shipped with a cardboard RF shield, coated with a layer of metal foil. The effectiveness of the cardboard was highly questionable, and worse still it acted as an insulator, blocking airflow which trapped heat generated by the SID, VIC and PLA chips. | |||
Thanks --]-] 03:49, 29 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
The SID was manufactured using NMOS at 7 and in some areas 6 micrometres. The prototype SID and some very early production models featured a ceramic DIL package, but unlike the VIC-II, these are extremely rare as the SID was encased in plastic when production started in early 1982. | |||
Please stop bad faith edits with misleading summaries such as . ] 00:04, 30 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
In 1986 Commodore released the last revision to the "classic" C64 motherboard. It was otherwise identical to the 1984 design, except that it now used two 64 kbit ×4 ] chips rather than the original eight 64 kbit ×1. | |||
:While it was a ''contentious'' decision, it was not a ''contraversial'' one, as no amount of consensus can trump core policy. Good call, I am sure it will pass review. ]<small> <sup>(Need help? ])</sup></small> 00:27, 30 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
After the release of the C64C, MOS Technology began to reconfigure the C64's chipset to use ] technology. The main benefit of using HMOS was that it required less voltage to drive the IC, which consequently generates less heat. This enhanced the overall reliability of the SID and VIC-II. The new chipset was re-numbered to 85xx in order to reflect the change to HMOS. | |||
== oh! == | |||
In 1987 Commodore released C64Cs with a totally redesigned motherboard commonly known as a "short board". The new board used the new HMOS chipset, featuring new 64-pin PLA chip. The new "SuperPLA" as it was dubbed, integrated many discrete components and ] chips. The 2114 color RAM was integrated into the last revision of the PLA. | |||
Thank you very much! I kinda figured he was "important" in some way, but thanks for filling me in. On another note, if you look at your page history this user named "Ryulong" had for some reason blanked my initial comment to you. That's rude! ] 03:21, 29 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
The C64 used an external ]. While this saved valuable space within the computer's case, the supply itself was barely adequate for the C64's power requirements and occasionally failed from overheating. Some users purchased heavier-duty, better-cooled, third-party power supplies. Later in the Commodore's lifetime, third-party power supplies became increasingly important when used in conjunction with ]' peripherals. Of particular note, a C64 coupled with a RAM expansion or CMD ] required more power than the original Commodore power supply could provide. | |||
== Gratz == | |||
I just wanted to add my congratulations on the article about you on The Tyee (that I just discovered, shame on me). The paper is really nice, so congratulations, and remember that the number of Giraffes is reaching an alarming level these days ;). -- ] <sup>]</sup> 05:05, 29 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
==== Internal hardware ==== | |||
== Thamls for the unblock == | |||
*Microprocessor CPU: | |||
**] (the 6510/8500 being a modified ] with an integrated 6-bit I/O port) | |||
**Clock speed: 1.023 MHz (]) or 0.985 MHz (]) | |||
*Video: ] 6567/8567 (NTSC), 6569/8569 (PAL) | |||
**16 colors<!--to be listed--> | |||
**Text mode: 40×25 characters; 256 user-defined chars (8×8 ]s, or 4×8 in multicolor mode); 4-bit color RAM defines foreground color | |||
**Bitmap modes: 320×200 (2 colors in each 8×8 block), 160×200 (3 colors plus background in each 4×8 block) | |||
**8 hardware ]s of 24×21 pixels (12×21 in multicolor mode) | |||
**Smooth ], ] ]s | |||
*Sound: ] | |||
**3-channel ] with programmable ] envelope | |||
**8 ]s | |||
**4 waveforms: triangle, sawtooth, variable pulse, noise | |||
**Oscillator synchronization, ] | |||
**Programmable filter: ], ], ], ] | |||
*RAM: | |||
**64 ] (65,536 bytes), of which 38 KB minus 1 byte (38911 bytes) were available for BASIC programs | |||
**512 bytes color RAM (1 K ]s) | |||
**Expandable to 320 KB with ] 256 KB RAM Expansion Unit (REU); although only 64 KB directly accessible; REU mostly intended for ]. REUs of 128 KB and 512 KB, originally designed for the C128, were also available, but required the user to buy a stronger power supply from some third party supplier; with the 1764 this was included. Creative Micro Designs also produced a 2 MB REU for the C64 and C128, called the 1750 XL. The technology actually supported up to 16 MB, but 2 MB was the biggest one officially made. Expansions of up to 16 MB were also possible via the CMD ]. | |||
*ROM: | |||
**20 KB (9 KB ]; 7 KB ]<!-- the BASIC continues into the upper ROM chip-->; 4 KB character generator, providing two 2 KB character sets) | |||
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==== I/O ports and power supply ==== | |||
==RfA thanks== | |||
*I/O ports: | |||
**8-pin ] containing composite video output, separate Y/C outputs, and sound input/output. (Some early C64 units utilized a 5-pin DIN connector that omitted the Y/C output.) | |||
**Integrated ] antenna output via a ] connector | |||
**2 × screwless ] ] ports (compatible with Atari 2600 controllers), each supporting five digital inputs and two analog inputs. Available peripherals included digital ]s, analog ]s, a ], the Commodore 1351 ], and the unique ]. | |||
**] expansion slot (slot for ] with 6510 CPU address/data bus lines and control signals, as well as GND and voltage pins; used for program modules and memory expansions, among others) | |||
**]-type ] 300 ] tape interface (edge connector with cassette motor/read/write/sense signals and GND and +5 V pins; the motor pin is powered to directly supply the motor) | |||
**User port (edge connector with ]-level ] signals, for modems, etc; and byte-parallel signals which can be used to drive third-party parallel printers, among other things; with 17 logic signals, 7 GND and voltage pins, including 9 V AC voltage) | |||
**Serial bus (serial version of ], 6-pin DIN plug) for CBM printers and disk drives | |||
*Power supply: | |||
** 5 V DC and 9 V AC from external "monolithic power brick", attached to computer's 7-pin female DIN-connector | |||
** A PC power supply has 5 V DC and 12 V DC connections, perfect for powering the 1541-II and 1581 disk drives (just make sure the connections are correct). Powering the original 1541's off of a PC power supply is trickier. Even a decrepit 85 watt power supply carried out of the scrapyard for a buck can power a Commodore disk drive. | |||
Thank you for voting in my RfA, I passed. I appreciate your input. Please keep (if you want) to see if a screw up. ]<small> <sup>(Need help? ])</sup></small> 16:41, 29 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Notes on C64 Software== | |||
== Re: Excuse Me == | |||
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While “removing the link” you inadvertently removed 500 characters of text around it, as well as a whole subsection title. Excuse me for erroneously calling that a misleading edit summary. Everyone makes honest typos from time to time! Cheers, ] 00:50, 30 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
* On address <code>$FFF6-$FFF9 (65526-9)</code> in the C64 ], right before the ] jump vectors for the processor, you can find the letter sequence "RRBY". These are the initials of Robert Russell and Bob Yannes, the two main engineers that created the C64. | |||
* The Commodore 64's BASIC V2, the programming language which came built-in with the computer, can be crashed by executing <code>PRINT""+-</code> (where ''x'' is any integer), or by attempting to create a BASIC program with an initial line number near <code>350800</code>. | |||
* Due to a quirk in the C64's BASIC operating system, an ] or ] of sorts may be activated by pressing the <code><span style="border-style:solid; border-width:1px; border-color:black; padding:1px 2px 1px 2px;">RUN/STOP</span></code> and <code><span style="border-style:solid; border-width:1px; border-color:black; padding:1px 2px 1px 2px;">RESTORE</span></code> keys in unison, then entering <code>POKE781,96:SYS58251</code> on the subsequently cleared screen.<ref>{{ cite web | title = C64 Screen Saver | url = http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.cbm/browse_thread/thread/9280be2299f20483/9293bd739e32e99e }}</ref> | |||
* There is a way to hide lines of code written in the BASIC Language stored in local memory. It involved using the "heart" symbol. | |||
* Entering the character shift-L (which looks like an L-shaped border corner) into the program code will cause a syntax error when that line is LISTed. This is a simple way of prevent arbitrary listing of the program code. | |||
== Notes and references == | |||
== 4chan == | |||
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Excuse me, but why would you block the article on ]? there hasn't been any major issue recently and vandalism has stopped, could you please explain this? ] 11:54, 30 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
* Angerhausen, M.; Becker, Dr. A.; Englisch, L.; Gerits, K. (1983, 84). ''The Anatomy of the Commodore 64''. Abacus Software (US ed.) / First Publishing Ltd. (UK ed.). ISBN 0-948015-00-4 (UK ed.). German original edition published by ] GmbH & Co. KG, Düsseldorf. | |||
::I would also share my concern in this matter.--] 16:20, 30 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
* Bagnall, Brian (2005). ''On the Edge: the Spectacular Rise and Fall of Commodore''. Variant Press. ISBN 0-9738649-0-7. See especially pp. 224−260. | |||
*Commodore Business Machines, Inc., Computer Systems Division (1982). ''Commodore 64 Programmer's Reference Guide''. Self-published by CBM. ISBN 0-672-22056-3. | |||
* Tomczyk, Michael (1984). ''The Home Computer Wars: An Insider's Account of Commodore and Jack Tramiel''. ] Publications, Inc. ISBN 0-942386-75-2. | |||
* Perry, Tekla S.; Wallich, Paul. "Design case history: the Commodore 64". '']''. March 1985. | |||
* Jeffries, Ron. "A best buy for '83: Commodore 64". '']'', January 1983. | |||
* Amiga Format News Special. "Commodore at CeBIT '94". '']'', Issue 59, May 1994. | |||
* ]; "Commodore 64 - Interview with Commodore president Max Toy", 1988. | |||
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== See also == | |||
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== External links == | |||
{{commons|Commodore 64}} | |||
* {{dmoz|Computers/Systems/Commodore/Commodore_64/}} | |||
* – The tagged link list for Commodore 64 fans | |||
* – Manuals for C64/128 games and software. | |||
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Image:C64_Multiplan.png|'']''<br/>] (1983) | |||
Image:C64_Koala_Painter.png|'']''<br/>Koala/Audio Light (1983) | |||
Image:C64_GEOS.png|'']'' (desktop)<br/>Berkeley Softworks (1986) | |||
Image:C64_Geowrite.png|''geoWrite''<br/>Berkeley Softworks (1987) | |||
Image:C64_Donkey_Kong.png|'']''<br/>] (1983) | |||
Image:C64_Winter_Games.png|'']''<br/>] (1985) | |||
Image:C64_IKPlus.png|'']''<br/>] (1987) | |||
Image:C64_Creatures_II.png|'']''<br/>Thalamus/Apex (1993) | |||
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Can u please tell me why you people FULLY protected the articlele Xbox 360?
help!
I accidentally blanked half the Robin Hood article. I know you fixed it when I did this to the Star Wars article. Can you tell me how to fix it? Thank you.
TS Edit Test
re: Unicornscan article deletion
I noticed that you have deleted the Unicornscan. Could you please point me to some justification of this?
Continuing the discussion...
On your talk page this time. You stated: "your current vote likely will confuse the hell out of a lot of users..." How many users who voted support actually understand the C# code TawkerBotTorA is written in ? Jcam
Retrieval
Would it be possible to retrieve the article somehow? I couldn't figure that out from the deletion history. Thanks
no offence
Are you a wiki freak???!?!? Your making me scared!
NO OFENCE!
Vandalbot mistake
Hello! The vandalbot tagged me as a vandal by mistake; I think that it may be because I forgot to sign a comment on WP:AIV but other than that I am pretty sure that I am not a vandal! (aeropagitica) 20:45, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Benton Academy
Sorry - I'll fix according to your comments.
Why was this deleted???
I did not have time to add the hangon tag to this page after it was marked. I had made links from the Benton, Mississippi page (the reference was there, I just added link capability. I was also referenced under [[List of high schools in Mississippi ]]. Again I just added the link ability. I seem to remember two links being a qualifying parameter. I also have about 200 words of text to be added. There are several additional schools in the same catagory listed on Misplaced Pages indluding Trinity Episcopal Day School, Southaven High School, Jim Hill High School and several others.
Check other modifications by same user with bot
Is there any way you could do this? Often, a user who had a change reverted by the bot also performed many other vandalizations. If the bot could check through the user's edits, it would help clear out vandalism even faster.
Re: Wii
Why did you unprotect the page?
Despotism
I am tens of millions of people. You block one IP, I come back with another. You block that one, I come back with another. Just drop the facade and block everyone, or I will never go away until there is justice, and your people have decided against that option, so I will never go away.
Kanab Ambersnail
Can you unprotect Kanab Ambersnail? Usually articles linked from the front page such as the article of the day are not protected. This is the 1.5millionth article for the encyclopedia "anyone" can edit. -Ravedave 20:03, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Colbert image
Hi -- just curious why you swapped out the enhanced version of the main photo on the Stephen Colbert article for the older unenhanced one. It's not my work, but I thought the enhanced version looked somewhat better. Your edit summary just says 'update' -- maybe I'm missing something? Not a big deal either way, I'm just wondering. -- Bailey 06:46, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- Kelly Martin was commenting how the auto balance really faded it out, personally the first one looks more realistic IMO -- Tawker 07:04, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- Okay, just figured I'd ask since I didn't see the discussion. Was this on commons? Anyway, "more realistic" does seem like a fair criticism, and I'll pretty much always defer to what others think on photo-quality-related issues since I don't have the best eye for that kind of thing. Thanks for clarifying. -- Bailey 07:30, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanx
Asteroidz R not planetz here. Just saying thanx for preventing further embarressment for me, about the committee thing. I'm new and didn't realise there were such high standards.Asteroidz R not planetz 12:56, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Funny
This (antivandalbot) bot is a joint venture of Tawker Arms LLC and Cyde Weys Munitions Inc.
Is there a copyright on this? :-) Bearly541 05:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
:) -- 06:21, 27 November 2006 (UTC)This file is in the public domain, because (no reason given!) PD Public domain false false
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Note: if there is a specific licence tag for the reason supplied here, please use it.Well-deserved barnstar
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar For heroic and courageous AfD closing. Well done! Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 04:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC) - Hear, hear! bikeable (talk) 05:22, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- Amazing, now drama will ensue without the GNAA folks even raising a finger! Nice way of ”not feeding the trolls”. Sam Hocevar 06:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Closing of GNAA AFD after only 2 days?
Why did you close a AFD after only 2 days? It is obviously a contentious issue and should be discussed. --TrollHistorian 06:16, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
On that note, for the trolling you will have to withstand as a result, Tawker, I award you the Big Brass Balls. ★MESSEDROCKER★ 11:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Dude, you got a massive pair of balls. You used them well. User:Zscout370 23:10, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- And I was just starting to look around for a barnstar, LOL. The one above is perfect. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 01:21, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Well done, friend, well done. I've wanted to and never had the guts. Chick Bowen 01:52, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
GNAA got deleted? wow... anyhow I was wondering if you could subst the deleted Template: GNAA-AfD somewhere to make it easier to look at the (long) history of these many bizare nominations. --T-rex 03:43, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks --T-rex 03:49, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Please stop bad faith edits with misleading summaries such as this one. Sam Hocevar 00:04, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- While it was a contentious decision, it was not a contraversial one, as no amount of consensus can trump core policy. Good call, I am sure it will pass review. HighInBC 00:27, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
oh!
Thank you very much! I kinda figured he was "important" in some way, but thanks for filling me in. On another note, if you look at your page history this user named "Ryulong" had for some reason blanked my initial comment to you. That's rude! Vampyragurl 03:21, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Gratz
I just wanted to add my congratulations on the article about you on The Tyee (that I just discovered, shame on me). The paper is really nice, so congratulations, and remember that the number of Giraffes is reaching an alarming level these days ;). -- lucasbfr 05:05, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Thamls for the unblock
you will not regret it--"P-Machine" 07:23, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
RfA thanks
Thank you for voting in my RfA, I passed. I appreciate your input. Please keep an eye on me(if you want) to see if a screw up. HighInBC 16:41, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Re: Excuse Me
While “removing the link” you inadvertently removed 500 characters of text around it, as well as a whole subsection title. Excuse me for erroneously calling that a misleading edit summary. Everyone makes honest typos from time to time! Cheers, Sam Hocevar 00:50, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
4chan
Excuse me, but why would you block the article on 4chan? there hasn't been any major issue recently and vandalism has stopped, could you please explain this? Nightmare X 11:54, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- I would also share my concern in this matter.--ABigBlackMan 16:20, 30 November 2006 (UTC)