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::You've been inactive for nearly 6 years, and you profess to know more about spambots than TonyBallioni, an active CheckUser, and Praxidicae, who is one of the most knowledgeable and experienced editors wrt spambots on the English Misplaced Pages and globally, as well as other active editors. Your actions, specifically those declining requests like Cahk's and your later doubling down and incivility, are detrimental to anti-spam efforts by wasting the time of editors and preventing them from doing their work. Please, please, extend your AGF to your fellow editors, not just the spambots. Regards, ] (]) 18:10, 7 October 2019 (UTC) ::You've been inactive for nearly 6 years, and you profess to know more about spambots than TonyBallioni, an active CheckUser, and Praxidicae, who is one of the most knowledgeable and experienced editors wrt spambots on the English Misplaced Pages and globally, as well as other active editors. Your actions, specifically those declining requests like Cahk's and your later doubling down and incivility, are detrimental to anti-spam efforts by wasting the time of editors and preventing them from doing their work. Please, please, extend your AGF to your fellow editors, not just the spambots. Regards, ] (]) 18:10, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
* {{comment}} I am pretty sure that you don't actually know the scope of the problem, and your parading around telling those who are knowledgeable on these matters is very telling. I doubt that many have actioned more spambots than me, either when I was a steward, or an operator of COIBot, a current writer of global abuse filters, or managed that spam more than me. As an admin of about ten years here, and more elsewhere, all I have got to say is that it is probably time for you to get up-to-date, and that would helped by you listening. Ten years ago we had no spambots, these days we have plentiful, absolutely: they morph, they invade and the spammers take over dead domains, and they infect wikis and cause huge problems. We have a global spam black list that is enormous in size, and matched by one here. Now you arrive here telling us how to do our tasks with no understanding of the scope of the problem. Let us reflect on that. — ] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">]</span>'' 14:09, 9 October 2019 (UTC) * {{comment}} I am pretty sure that you don't actually know the scope of the problem, and your parading around telling those who are knowledgeable on these matters is very telling. I doubt that many have actioned more spambots than me, either when I was a steward, or an operator of COIBot, a current writer of global abuse filters, or managed that spam more than me. As an admin of about ten years here, and more elsewhere, all I have got to say is that it is probably time for you to get up-to-date, and that would helped by you listening. Ten years ago we had no spambots, these days we have plentiful, absolutely: they morph, they invade and the spammers take over dead domains, and they infect wikis and cause huge problems. We have a global spam black list that is enormous in size, and matched by one here. Now you arrive here telling us how to do our tasks with no understanding of the scope of the problem. Let us reflect on that. — ] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">]</span>'' 14:09, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
::: Do such blanket insults generally help you get your way with a minimum of effort? You're a beautiful example of taking a difference of opinion and attributing it to ignorance and hubris on the part of the other party, attempting to discredit their validity by sneers and dismissal (parading? really?) Do you also ever refer to "those people" or otherwise demonize the "other" with whom you disagree? Or are you capable of acknowledging that another view, however different from your own, might not, in fact, spring from their ignorance and incompetence, but rather from a valid view which deserves attention and consideration? do you find that your heavy handed dismissal of those who believe a different approach is worth discussing as ignorant and foolish generally shuts them up? Because that approach doesn't work with me. If you have valid arguments for why your approach is better than that actually outlined by current policy, then I am willing to listen. If you have intelligent rationale for why I might be misinterpreting policy, I am willing to listen. If your only arguments involve insulting me, calling me out of touch, directly implying I lack knowledge - well then, you're part of the damn problem. ]] 12:04, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

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Clint Pulver

Hi KillerChihuahua. You recently deleted a page that I created Clint Pulver. Is it possible to get that page put onto the talk page or onto my sandbox? I got some good feedback on the Articles for Deletion page and would like to improve the article and resubmit. - tbc32 (talk) 014:13, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

It's possible, but the reason the article was tagged was lack of evidence of notability. Have you evidence (via reliable sources) that he is notable? You can improve a CV 'til the cows come home, but it's still a CV unless there's notability. KillerChihuahua 12:15, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Yes, I believe there is considerable evidence that he meets notability requirements for WP:ENT for both point #1 "Has significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions" and #3 "Has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment." For point #1 he has played a significant role in several films listed in IMdB. He also has a featured "special" on a new platform (Drybar) and two audio CDs. I'll clean up the article to make this more clear. To point #3 his background as a professional drummer and as the founder of a University drumline group (the Green Man group) make his contribution as an entertainer unique. Tyler (talk) 18:37, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
A university band member isn't notable. A University band that was written up in Rolling Stone, now that would be notable. My ex husband has over a dozen cd's; he's not the least bit notable, as he'd tell you himself. Did the cd's hit any charts, for playing, or sales? Was he in the credits for any of those films, and if so was he a tiny minor part or a major part? KillerChihuahua 12:03, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Yes, he was in the credits for all of those films and played a major role in four the five. The one that he didn't play a major role featured Jack Black and Jon Heder (see: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm7655040/)(talk) Tyler (talk) 20:56, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

HaroldDunlop unblock request

Hi KC, I noticed you put the unblock request at User_talk:HaroldDunlop on hold a little under two weeks ago. It looks like discussion died off around the 19th. Are you still considering unblocking? SQL 02:25, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

The blocking admin responded, and Harold's had plenty of time to answer my question and has failed completely to do so satisfactorily. I've changed OnHold to Declined. He can re-request if he wants. KillerChihuahua 12:12, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, that was basically my plan - but I didn't want to step on your toes if you were still considering an unblock. SQL 17:47, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
No worries - FYI, I know I'm only here intermittently, so in the future, if you feel something needs handling/doing and I'm not around, feel free to just do it. I'd appreciate a courtesy note here on my talk page, but if it's obvious what you've done and why, that isn't necessary if you haven't the time or inclination. KillerChihuahua 19:17, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Category:16th-century Lebanese poets

Hello, KillerChihuahua,

In the future, if you come across an empty category, please just tag with a CSD C1 tag, do not delete it. Then, empty categories sit for 7 days in Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion. If, after a week, the category is still empty, then it is deleted. If it is no longer empty after 7 days, then the tag is removed.

This is the process now because it gives category creators time, after creating a category, to find appropriate pages for it. Also, sometimes categories are emptied out-of-process and this week gives other editors time to discover what the issue is and recategorize articles. Thanks! Liz 16:48, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Eh, my error. Would you like me to undelete? Easily done. KillerChihuahua 17:13, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

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Spambots

Hi KillerChihuahua, I noticed the recent discussion you were involved in on Cahk’s talk page. He’s right: those accounts are spambots, and they’re eligible for blocks with TPA revoked with no warning. It’s just a script that runs to spam links, not a human being, so warnings don’t do anything. If we decline to block here, someone can just go over to m:SRG and they’d be globally blocked on request. Not a criticism of you since many AIV patrolling admins don’t recognize them, but I did want to reach out about it for the future . TonyBallioni (talk) 16:12, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

And yet that's NOT what the AIV instrucstions state. If they're not obvious spambots, they get a warning. Err on the side of civility, always. Or one day you'll cheerfully block what appears to be a bot, but is actually a person who otherwise would have become one of our best contributors, but instead will spend the next 20 or 30 years talking about what assholes Wikipedians are. Seriously, it takes about 5 seconds to slap that warning on the uTalk page. Do it. Unless the user is painfully, astonishingly, clearly obviously a bot, you take that one tiny extra step. I appreciate that you think you're teaching me here, but you're not. KillerChihuahua 11:56, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
These are painfully, astonishingly, clearly, and obviously spambots. Plese tone down your rhetoric when telling experienced users "we actually have policies about this shit" when you actually don't seem to understand what's going on. GMG 12:03, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
You've been inactive for nearly 6 years, and you profess to know more about spambots than TonyBallioni, an active CheckUser, and Praxidicae, who is one of the most knowledgeable and experienced editors wrt spambots on the English Misplaced Pages and globally, as well as other active editors. Your actions, specifically those declining requests like Cahk's and your later doubling down and incivility, are detrimental to anti-spam efforts by wasting the time of editors and preventing them from doing their work. Please, please, extend your AGF to your fellow editors, not just the spambots. Regards, Vermont (talk) 18:10, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment: I am pretty sure that you don't actually know the scope of the problem, and your parading around telling those who are knowledgeable on these matters is very telling. I doubt that many have actioned more spambots than me, either when I was a steward, or an operator of COIBot, a current writer of global abuse filters, or managed that spam more than me. As an admin of about ten years here, and more elsewhere, all I have got to say is that it is probably time for you to get up-to-date, and that would helped by you listening. Ten years ago we had no spambots, these days we have plentiful, absolutely: they morph, they invade and the spammers take over dead domains, and they infect wikis and cause huge problems. We have a global spam black list that is enormous in size, and matched by one here. Now you arrive here telling us how to do our tasks with no understanding of the scope of the problem. Let us reflect on that. — billinghurst sDrewth 14:09, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
Do such blanket insults generally help you get your way with a minimum of effort? You're a beautiful example of taking a difference of opinion and attributing it to ignorance and hubris on the part of the other party, attempting to discredit their validity by sneers and dismissal (parading? really?) Do you also ever refer to "those people" or otherwise demonize the "other" with whom you disagree? Or are you capable of acknowledging that another view, however different from your own, might not, in fact, spring from their ignorance and incompetence, but rather from a valid view which deserves attention and consideration? do you find that your heavy handed dismissal of those who believe a different approach is worth discussing as ignorant and foolish generally shuts them up? Because that approach doesn't work with me. If you have valid arguments for why your approach is better than that actually outlined by current policy, then I am willing to listen. If you have intelligent rationale for why I might be misinterpreting policy, I am willing to listen. If your only arguments involve insulting me, calling me out of touch, directly implying I lack knowledge - well then, you're part of the damn problem. KillerChihuahua 12:04, 21 October 2019 (UTC)