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April 2018

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Jhumpa Lahiri

Did you see my edit-summary here explaining why the "of Indian origin" is relevant to this particular author and compliant with WP:MOS#Context? Please self-revert or explain your reasoning on the article talkpage, instead of blindly edit-warring. Abecedare (talk) 21:04, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

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Alisha Farrer

I've reverted your edit to Alisha Farrer. I can see from your past activity that you have a special interest in racial categorization, but I fear you are misrepresenting WP:ETHNICITY. Note that it says “Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability.”

In this case Farrer is notable because she is an Indian actress who works in Indian TV and cinema - she does not work in the Australian TV/film industry. She uses her Indian-ness as a professional trademark - it is integral to her notability. I don’t think she would even warrant a WP article as an unsuccessful Miss World Western Australia entrant. regards John beta (talk) 04:16, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

I fully agree with you that if her ethnicity is notable to her fame, then it is to be included in the lead. But I disagree with HOW you are including it. Prior to any edits in the past few days, her ethnicity WAS included in the lead but it was clear that it was her ethnicity and/or heritage as opposed to her nationality. But saying "Indian-Australian" or "Australian-Indian" confuses this matter, as opposed to saying "Australian of Indian heritage" or "Australian of Indian ethnicity". I am not opposed to inclusion in the lead but am opposed to presenting her Indian ethnicity as though it were her nationality.

Foreign born cricketers

How is it not relevant if they're foreign born for Australian cricketers but not for others (Tom Curran for example). Clearly you're interested in Australian sport but for other countries the players are always listed as foreign born in the lead. Are you going to change those too? We can't have inconsistency because of your reading of that document when so many others appear to read it the other way. brob (talk) 19:51, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

I understand that there are other wiki pages and/or biographies that may go against wikipedia guidelines and include prior nationalities and/or places of birth of players even if said nationality or place of birth has nothing to do with their present nationality that they are notable under. However, this does not and should not mean that every article/biography must then be rendered incorrect to "Fit a pattern" per say. Furthermore, I am not interested necessarily in all Australian sportsmen and so have no obligation to change every single one, although I recommend those who are interested in those pages to edit them appropriately. It would be ridiculous to assert that I as a single user and editor should go through every single wikipedia article to edit them on this topic.

I didn't assert. I asked. Is everyone else wrong then? Genuine question because if they are then a lot of them are wrong. brob (talk) 20:13, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

If they are including prior nationalities and/or place of birth in the lead without it being relevant to the notability of the individual at hand, then yes, that would be incorrect. For example, if someone became a famous soccer player playing for some national team but then chose to obtain another nationality to play for another team, then it would make sense to place their birth nationality in the lead because it is directly relevant to their notability as a soccer player. On the other hand, if someone's family immigrated from a country when they were a child and they obtained a different nationality and became a famous (insert whatever they are famous for here), then it would be inappropriate to include their birth nationality/place in the lead because they first off may not even be that nationality anymore, and secondly that nationality is not at all relevant to their notability and so should not be given that sort of emphasis or importance to warrant inclusion in the lead.

I think of it the way I think of any other thing that you may consider including in the lead. If it is not directly relevant to the notability of the person at hand, why is it in the lead? Just like we would not include sexuality, ethnicity, or religion in the lead (unless that is directly relevant to that individual's notability), we would not include prior nationalities and/or place of birth. That more appropriately belongs in the "early life" section of the biographical page.

Good points. Thanks. brob (talk) 10:44, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Sure, absolutely!

June 2019

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You removed my editing of Nasim Pedrad

Hi Sir,

Could you please tell me why did you remove my editing of Nasim Pedrad?? I dont see anything wrong in stating that she is Iranian who lives in USA... e.g. American Iranian. She cannot be American. Only by papers but by her birth nationality she is Iranian. I would kindly ask of you to return the description of her that I made, or otherwise I will do it myself..

Best regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by M1AGG10N3 (talk • contribs) 10:59, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I can explain why I reverted the edit, and I do believe I was correct in doing so. If you look at wiki regulations on biography ledes, and read WP:Ethnicity specifically, it specifies that place of birth, previous nationalities, and/or ethnicity are not included in the lede unless relevant to notability. She became famous in the United States as an American citizen, thereby making "American" the appropriate lede description as opposed to "Iranian-American" or "Iranian" for instance. Apoorva Iyer (talk) 11:08, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

it's call a short description.

I understand that you're trying to help, but this could technically be called vandalism. If you felt it was not accurate then I'd have not said a word about you changing it, but completely removing it is wrong. He was born in India, and the text you removed did not claim anything about citizenship. If you don't understand Misplaced Pages:Short description, perhaps you should ask someone. Please be a bit more careful in the future. If you feel the short description should not contain "India", then feel free to not include that part, but please repair the error you made. At least put some of the description back into the article. I'll wait to see if you make any effort to fix your error. — Ched :  ?  — 00:20, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

I apologize for removing it entirely. Yes, I think it should be edited to state "American" as opposed to "Indian-American" as this is accurate for the individual in question, as simply being born in a country does not make you necessarily a hyphenated nationality. Forgive me, but I am not sure how to edit it. Let me try. If not, perhaps you can. Thanks, and my apologies.

I was able to add the short description back in and edit it.

You did fine - thank you very much. cheers. By the way, I noticed that you have several notifications on your talk page. If there's anything I can do to help, feel free to ask on my talk page. Happy editing. — Ched :  ?  — 00:30, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Do I really have notifications on my talk page? I haven't received any alert for any notifications. To my knowledge I have been keeping up with everything posted on my talk page. Perhaps there's something I'm missing?

I was referring to some of the sections above - I believe you've already addressed them. Also, are you familiar with signing your signature to things you post? By putting four of those tilde punctuation marks at the end of your post - it posts the who and the when of that post. Example: ~~~~ .. for me it adds the following: — Ched :  ?  — 00:43, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your help! Yes, I am aware how to sign my name. Apoorva Iyer (talk) 00:49, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Ethnicity in the lead

Apoorva Iyer, ok. Then why in the case of Nikolai Gogol ethnicity is mentioned in the lead? Beliknol (talk) 13:25, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

I have absolutely no idea why another article may or may not include ethnicity in the lead. If said ethnicity or prior nationality is not directly relevant to that person's notability, it should not be in the lead per Misplaced Pages guidelines as stated in WP:Ethnicity. One article not following the guidelines does not justify another article doing the same. Apoorva Iyer (talk) 13:30, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Agree. Beliknol (talk) 06:42, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

October 2019

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