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:::I just noticed that Andrew Davidson was defending himself against clearly false accusations. It was just a harmless glossary, and it's typical of what I've seen that you make wild and inaccurate assumptions about perfectly acceptable material. I haven't seen Andrew Davidson violate any Misplaced Pages policies, in contrast to your repeated violations. I'm sure you can see from the deletion discussion that the overwhelming majority disagreed with you, and many specifically described how your actions were disruptive. Trying to deny that your actions constitute unambiguous harassment is just playing "I didn't hear that", and Misplaced Pages users ignore the community at their own risk. I maintain what I said before that harassment is wrong, and that you should not continue to harass other users.] (]) 01:52, 5 November 2019 (UTC) | :::I just noticed that Andrew Davidson was defending himself against clearly false accusations. It was just a harmless glossary, and it's typical of what I've seen that you make wild and inaccurate assumptions about perfectly acceptable material. I haven't seen Andrew Davidson violate any Misplaced Pages policies, in contrast to your repeated violations. I'm sure you can see from the deletion discussion that the overwhelming majority disagreed with you, and many specifically described how your actions were disruptive. Trying to deny that your actions constitute unambiguous harassment is just playing "I didn't hear that", and Misplaced Pages users ignore the community at their own risk. I maintain what I said before that harassment is wrong, and that you should not continue to harass other users.] (]) 01:52, 5 November 2019 (UTC) | ||
::::What "repeated violations"??? And, you "just noticed"? '''How''' did you just notice? You are not a frequent contributor to MFD. Heck, last June you weren't a frequent contributor to ANI -- and you still aren't. If you don't want to explain how you came across that discussion, can you at least grant me the courtesy of not commenting on discussions involving me again? I don't care if you make personal remarks about other editors if that is just your standard operating procedure, but I would appreciate it if you didn't make them about me. ] (<small>]]</small>) 02:56, 5 November 2019 (UTC) | ::::What "repeated violations"??? And, you "just noticed"? '''How''' did you just notice? You are not a frequent contributor to MFD. Heck, last June you weren't a frequent contributor to ANI -- and you still aren't. If you don't want to explain how you came across that discussion, can you at least grant me the courtesy of not commenting on discussions involving me again? I don't care if you make personal remarks about other editors if that is just your standard operating procedure, but I would appreciate it if you didn't make them about me. ] (<small>]]</small>) 02:56, 5 November 2019 (UTC) | ||
I often look through the articles for deletion, and sometimes I also check the contributions of those who vote in articles for deletion. When I checked Dream Focus' contributions, I noticed he was being one-sidedly harassed by you, and when I happened to check Andrew Davidson's contributions later, I noticed that he was also being stalked by you in the same manner. The diffs I saw were clear, and it's pointless to deny it. I don’t usually speak up, but if I see that people who are following the rules are being harassed by someone who is not following the rules, I at very least don't want to condone it. The fact that you're continuing to deny the facts makes me wonder whether you'll change or not. I guess you can bury your head in the sand if you like, but I still hope you will resist the urge to engage in any further harassment in the future. I know I can sometimes be a little abrasive, but I try to speak honestly. If you need to interact with Andrew Davidson again, just post one polite rebuttal or one focused vote, without mentioning his name or engaging in bludgeoning.] (]) 03:25, 5 November 2019 (UTC) |
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- @Diannaa: - Hmm. This is interesting. Regarding His New Job, most of the description I did was rewritten from a 1965 British reference book on Charlie Chaplin titled The Films of Charlie Chaplin. The plot of the movie actually differs from what appeared in that book. I have never heard of the website where the link leads. Whoever wrote the plot summary for that website took the plot description directly from the book. At least I altered some of the details to actually make it match what occurred in the movie.
- The Pay Day “problem” was that I did quote directly from a review—and I said so. I believe the issue was that the review from 1922 was still under copyright 98 years later from a publication which still exists!Worldlywise (talk) 13:10, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
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- @Arch dude: - Bioscope and The Cinema are old periodicals that were reviewing movies back in the silent film era. I don’t know a lot about them, except that they have been out of print for close to a century, so I don't know if full Misplaced Pages articles could be written about them. Actually, I found the reviews reprinted in a 1965 book The Films of Charlie Chaplin. I've considered your advice, and I agree that I should have provided more clarification on this point. I had thought that just providing the name of the periodical would have been enough here, but I've been looking into Misplaced Pages's citation rules and decided to add in the additional information.Worldlywise (talk) 17:14, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- I think you did just fine. The the only lack of clarity is really trivial and is easily corrected. Since you did nto fine and read those periodicals, you are quite correct to quote from the book. You just needed to make it clear that that is what you did. In an ideal world, I suppose some omnipotent editor with an infinite amount of time to spare might go and find the periodicals,but you are under no obligation to do so. And thanks again for your work. I think the reviews add a lot to the article. -Arch dude (talk) 01:12, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
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Stay away from me
It's come to my attention that over the last 17 months or so you have intermittently shown up to discussions I was involved in and either (a) disagreed with whatever position I happened to be taking or (b) made an offensive and/or slimy remark about me personally. I don't know who you are and what your beef with me is (you're not a so-called "inclusionist" AFAICT since you've only !voted in seven AFDs), but whatever the case, drop it. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 16:37, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
- I didn't say anything offensive. I just noticed your harassment and factually inaccurate personal attacks on Andrew Davidson and other users. This is prohibited by our rules and not useful to building Misplaced Pages. I don't have any beef with any editors, but I do think constructive editing is preferable to hounding and strongly discourage you from continuing your harassment of other editors.Worldlywise (talk) 19:21, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
- "harassment"? "factually inaccurate personal attacks"? You need to back up such outrageous accusations with evidence, or else they constitute personal attacks. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 00:41, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- Please also note that ArbCom have clarified that monitoring the edits of someone who is violating Misplaced Pages policy is not hounding. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 00:44, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- BTW, did you by any chance receive any email or off-wiki contact "informing you" of my "harassment" of Andrew? Your happening to show up to that MFD when you had never edited MFD even once before seems surprisingly coincidental, and the content of your comment looked like you were responding to someone's "interpretation" of the discussion rather than the actual discussion... Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 00:52, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- I just noticed that Andrew Davidson was defending himself against clearly false accusations. It was just a harmless glossary, and it's typical of what I've seen that you make wild and inaccurate assumptions about perfectly acceptable material. I haven't seen Andrew Davidson violate any Misplaced Pages policies, in contrast to your repeated violations. I'm sure you can see from the deletion discussion that the overwhelming majority disagreed with you, and many specifically described how your actions were disruptive. Trying to deny that your actions constitute unambiguous harassment is just playing "I didn't hear that", and Misplaced Pages users ignore the community at their own risk. I maintain what I said before that harassment is wrong, and that you should not continue to harass other users.Worldlywise (talk) 01:52, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- What "repeated violations"??? And, you "just noticed"? How did you just notice? You are not a frequent contributor to MFD. Heck, last June you weren't a frequent contributor to ANI -- and you still aren't. If you don't want to explain how you came across that discussion, can you at least grant me the courtesy of not commenting on discussions involving me again? I don't care if you make personal remarks about other editors if that is just your standard operating procedure, but I would appreciate it if you didn't make them about me. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 02:56, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- I just noticed that Andrew Davidson was defending himself against clearly false accusations. It was just a harmless glossary, and it's typical of what I've seen that you make wild and inaccurate assumptions about perfectly acceptable material. I haven't seen Andrew Davidson violate any Misplaced Pages policies, in contrast to your repeated violations. I'm sure you can see from the deletion discussion that the overwhelming majority disagreed with you, and many specifically described how your actions were disruptive. Trying to deny that your actions constitute unambiguous harassment is just playing "I didn't hear that", and Misplaced Pages users ignore the community at their own risk. I maintain what I said before that harassment is wrong, and that you should not continue to harass other users.Worldlywise (talk) 01:52, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
I often look through the articles for deletion, and sometimes I also check the contributions of those who vote in articles for deletion. When I checked Dream Focus' contributions, I noticed he was being one-sidedly harassed by you, and when I happened to check Andrew Davidson's contributions later, I noticed that he was also being stalked by you in the same manner. The diffs I saw were clear, and it's pointless to deny it. I don’t usually speak up, but if I see that people who are following the rules are being harassed by someone who is not following the rules, I at very least don't want to condone it. The fact that you're continuing to deny the facts makes me wonder whether you'll change or not. I guess you can bury your head in the sand if you like, but I still hope you will resist the urge to engage in any further harassment in the future. I know I can sometimes be a little abrasive, but I try to speak honestly. If you need to interact with Andrew Davidson again, just post one polite rebuttal or one focused vote, without mentioning his name or engaging in bludgeoning.Worldlywise (talk) 03:25, 5 November 2019 (UTC)