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*'''Support''' The comic term appears more frequently in daily life. ] (]) 21:50, 27 November 2019 (UTC) *'''Support''' The comic term appears more frequently in daily life. ] (]) 21:50, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
:*Whose daily life? Are we living in the Marvel Universe now? ] (]) 13:28, 28 November 2019 (UTC) :*Whose daily life? Are we living in the Marvel Universe now? ] (]) 13:28, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
::*Ask an average person on the street what a "superpower" is, and more than likely they'll say something like "Spiderman's web shooting" and not "a geopolitical force".<sub><small>] (])</small></sub> 03:33, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per nom - '''''No''''' clear primary topic (especially since "almost everyone going to the ability page probably the political page too"). Move disambiguation page to basename. *'''Support''' per nom - '''''No''''' clear primary topic (especially since "almost everyone going to the ability page probably the political page too"). Move disambiguation page to basename.
: I'm currently in the process of fixing dozens of links to the political concept that should be going to "]". The sheer number of mistaken links is telling. <small>] (])</small> 00:15, 28 November 2019 (UTC) : I'm currently in the process of fixing dozens of links to the political concept that should be going to "]". The sheer number of mistaken links is telling. <small>] (])</small> 00:15, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

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Should Global policeman be merged here?

Thoughts? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 18:32, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

In my opinion, no. Because not all Superpowers wanted to have global hegemony and snooped around in every nation's affairs, of course they liked power but many also had certain morals which limited them from doing things like this. E.g. Cyrus the Great advocated for the self-ruling of non-Iranian peoples, which were the majority of people he conquered, and encouraged them to be more active in their affairs. It also seems like a relatively new idea which began with the actions of the British Empire and continues today with the USA. Migboy123 (talk) 01:30, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

BE sourcing

I think we need to discuss the weighting and viability of sources used for including the British Empire in this article. This is causing problems elsewhere. Only one author (Fox) - a contemporary commentator, not a historian - is actually cited as treating the British Empire as a super power; all the other sources used (few that there are) refer back to him. No doubt there are others, but without evidence it does not seem right to present this as historical consensus, especially as it is contentious. The weighting here should be adjusted to reflect weighting in reliable sources. The article should also include caveats like, for example, that the term was only applicable to the BE was a brief period after it was coined. Wiki-Ed (talk) 10:44, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

The British Empire was without a doubt a Superpower in it's time. It controlled 25% of the world's landmass, a feat which no other of the great superpowers of the past have been able to accomplish, although this can be attributed to technological advancement over time, it is without a doubt that Britain had a superior economy and naval fleet. There should be reliable sources cited but it's without a doubt British Empire was a superpower. Migboy123 (talk) 01:33, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Can these be considered Superpowers?

Can these empires really be considered Superpowers: Carthaginian Empire, Aksumite Empire, Almoravid Empire, Mali Empire, Inca Empire? I'm concerned with the Incan Empire because they were so isolated they weren't nearly as technologically advanced as the global powers at the time. They didn't even have a system of finances but rather still bartered for goods. Thoughts?Migboy123 (talk) 01:33, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

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Removal of "Superpowers of the past" section

The subject of the article is not the word "superpower", but the concept. The common usage, in the vast majority of cases as found in a books and web search, is the idea of the post-WWII superpowers, especially the U.S. and the U.S.S.R., as well as "emerging superpowers" such as China on the global stage. The fact that a few authors have used the word to refer to past empires (and often in "scare quotes" to indicate non-standard usage) can be mentioned, but it's not really significant to an understanding of the subject.

The "Superpowers of the past" section appears to be an indiscriminate, mostly-random subset of the List of ancient great powers and List of medieval great powers. The fact that a book once used the word "superpower" to describe some historical empire is not an important aspect of the subject. Most of the citations don't actually use the word "superpower", and half the entries are unsourced. A long list of examples of past great powers in this article is undue weight. It also has no clear criteria for inclusion, and entices people to just add their favorite article to it, amounting to original research.

I've added a concise paragraph to the end of the "Terminology and origin" section, that explains that the term is sometimes also used colloquially to refer to past great powers, and given two examples of works that have used the term in that way. It also links to the above two lists of great powers. I think this is sufficient coverage of it, and the "Superpowers of the past" section should be deleted. --IamNotU (talk) 22:16, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

The section has now been deleted. --IamNotU (talk) 19:33, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

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– Does not appear to be the obvious primary topic. By pageviews, the political page gets roughly 3x more than the ability, but since the ability also gets around 400 daily, it is not "much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term." One out of every 4 readers wants the comic term and not the political one. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 17:17, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Ask an average person on the street what a "superpower" is, and more than likely they'll say something like "Spiderman's web shooting" and not "a geopolitical force".ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:33, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support per nom - No clear primary topic (especially since "almost everyone going to the ability page probably the political page too"). Move disambiguation page to basename.
I'm currently in the process of fixing dozens of links to the political concept that should be going to "Superpower (ability)". The sheer number of mistaken links is telling. Paintspot Infez (talk) 00:15, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
Comment - In the last half an hour, I found and fixed 21 accidental links that didn’t mean to link here.
Fixed 17 accidental links to "Superpower" that meant to link to "Superpower (ability)”: ...on Bolt (2008 film), Lion-Maru, Shadow Fighters, Piece of Wonder, Swamp Thing (1991 TV series), Eviless, List of Misfits characters, Captain India, Marshal Law (comics), Nova (Richard Rider), Alternative versions of Mary Jane Watson, Superhero League of Hoboken, Captain Confederacy, From the Notebooks of Dr. Brain, NEW-GEN, Gabriel (New-Gen), Sean and Chris, Thea (New-Gen), Wally West.
And 4 accidental links to "Superpower" that should have been to other topics with the name: ...on 1987 in professional wrestling (to a wrestling tag team The Super Powers), ...Batman Total Justice (to Super Powers Collection), ...Willy Dozan (to a film series without an article), ...Greg Theakston (to a comic book series without an article).
...Yikes. Like I said, the sheer number of mistaken links is telling. Paintspot Infez (talk) 01:15, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
With all those bad links it still doesn't get near as many pageviews. 216.8.129.252 (talk) 13:28, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
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