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Lorraine Chandler

Well done on creating the new article for her. Does she not need adding to the Deaths in 2020 page ? - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 15:14, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Yes, but the sources ("...it's being reported on several music sites ...") are a little questionable at the moment, I think. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:16, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Now done (and not reverted), but I think we're still waiting for a source for Les Chadwick.... Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:45, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

I must have missed that one altogether ! It is easy to forget just how old these 1960s beat boys are now becoming - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:35, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

I found this this morning for Chadwick. Presumably that will suffice ? - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 10:47, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Indeed - thank you! I'd searched the Liverpool Echo website earlier without any luck - it must have just disappeared from it. Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:53, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Pearl King (songwriter) is not Earl King

"Pearl King (songwriter)" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Pearl King (songwriter). Since you had some involvement with the Pearl King (songwriter) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. RocknRollArchivist (talk) 15:26, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

RocknRollArchivist (talk) 19:40, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi. You are quite correct, and I'm very sorry to have to admit that I've been wrong on this point in the (dim and distant) past. Pearl King was Dave Bartholomew's wife. Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:09, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Fats Domino recordings

Hello,

Based on many years of painstaking work on the compilation of discographies as part of a team of enthusiasts of classic rock and roll, I suggest you get acquainted with my first wiki project. If successful, it is planned to create similar pages for Little Richard, Carl Perkins, Charlie Rich, Larry Williams, Jerry Lee Lewis, Esquerita... I apologize for my poor English and would be very grateful for any corrections and improvements to the style, as well as suggestions for improving the structure of the page. Cheers and rock on!

RocknRollArchivist (talk) 19:54, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

WOW!! Very impressive! My only initial comments are that (1) song titles should be inside inverted commas, not in italics (so, "Blue Monday" not Blue Monday), and (2) citations should be in the <ref></ref> form (see WP:INCITE) rather than linking directly to external sites. Those are just my first thoughts - I'll take a longer look in due course. But, thanks for your efforts! Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:14, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments. I took your suggestions into account and almost finished the page. Please re-visit it when you have time. I also ask you to read my suggestion about the title of the Fats Domino song "Ain't That a Shame".RocknRollArchivist (talk) 18:14, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Notability

On my user page, I have recently added Walter Rhodes (musician) to my legendary 'Reds or blues' section. Tee hee... well, a far number of editors seem to be unable to write a musician's article without using "legendary" at least once, so I thought I would have a go too. Joking apart, my conundrum is whether Rhodes passes muster in the notability stakes. Four recorded tracks, with only two actually released, is a meagre output, but his association with Charley Patton is well documented, along with his somewhat unique instrument for a blues musician. I will leave you to have a look at the links I have found, duly noting that some are considerably more reliable than others, and would appreciate your thoughts. There is no rush on this one. I am still trying to string together an article for the other red link in that section, and seem to have got writer's cramp, or the jitters, or "Yeah, the tremors in my thigh bone". Ta,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 23:05, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Do you have access to this article? I would say he's marginal, but why not go for it and see if anyone pushes for its removal? Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:30, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Yes, that is probably the best line of approach. I am banking on his uniqueness, as per Jstor and others, as tipping the balance towards notability. That is, when I get round to actually drafting the article. Cheers, - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:41, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

I like your Robert Johnson rephrasing!

Very much! That's all! Botterweg14 (talk) 16:04, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Boyd Gilmore

A recent edit here has changed his date (and place) of birth. To be fair, the editor cites stating June 12, 1910, as opposed to the previous June 1, 1905. There are discrepancies in that AllMusic also quotes June 12, 1910 (or 1913 depending on which part of their article you read); whereas Stefan Wirz gives "b. June 1, 1905 near Inverness, Sunflower County, Mississippi." Which is what I think I must have used when composing the original article in November 2016, Does BARE contain anything ? Plus, as it stands, the Wiki article now shows born 1910 in the main text and infobox, but still 1905 in the categories.

A bit of a bugger's muddle. DCI Hamilton to the rescue ? - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 00:55, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

References

1. Komara, Edward; Lee, Peter (2004). The Blues Encyclopedia. Routledge. p. 367. ISBN 978-1-135-95832-9.

As you say, there's a disagreement between Komara, which gives June 12, 1910, in Belzoni, and BARE, which (p.188) gives June 1 , 1905, "near Inverness, Sunflower County", with a footnote (p.447) which states: "The 1910 census disproves both the SSDI and Death certificate birth dates of 1910." ("SSDI" = Social Security Death Index.) SSDI in fact gives his birth date as June 1 , 1910 (not June 12) - although the California Death Index gives June 12, 1910. Census information gives him as aged 14 in 1920, 22 in 1930.... but so far I haven't been able to find him anywhere on the 1910 census. You'll have seen this, with the comment "He was born June 1, 1905 (some sources say June 12, 1910)." That is the sort of approach we should be adopting, I think. We need to move this discussion to the article talk page, perhaps, if we can't resolve it here, and I'll ping @Twixister:. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:42, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

re Fortunatus Wright

I just think saying just "Cheshire" is confusing, because it is not modernly part of Cheshire. Would you be OK with something like "then part of Cheshire"? Or even "modernly Merseyside, then part of Chester"? I have used similar wording for people for people born in West Virginia when it was still part of Virginia. Brianyoumans (talk) 23:55, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

The general guidance here is to refer to places by the name that was used at the the time they were born. No-one with an interest in 18th century history would use the modern term "Merseyside". I would object less strongly to a wording like "..then in Cheshire...", though I think it's unnecessary. But, the main problem with that article is the general lack of referencing - I'll try and get round to that, as Wright has been on my "to do" list for a long time. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:18, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

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Steve Martin Caro

Well done; cleaning up the section that said there had been a final reunion. This was apparently in a private room somewhere and it didnt make sense to report it as a performing group, playing publicly. I tried to modify the headline to reflect that there WAS no new group but I didnt know how to neatly remove the headline. I did not understand why a headline was there about something which never happened. Youre obviously a classic music lover like me. I WISH Left Banke could have reunited before Michael's 2015 death, while Martin Caro, Lookofsky/Brown, Cameron and Finn were alive. That would have been a legitimate reunion with substantial core members. But they waited too long and couldnt achieve this. Then, from 2015 to 2020, 3 of those 4 passed away simply due to mortality and the passage of time. It may have been nice for a reunion to occur, but wasnt worthy of a reference source to emphasize speculation on an event that MIGHT have happened, but did not. The editor Floridakitties really went crazy, didnt they? Haha. Thanks for simplifying and improving the article.

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