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What needs to be done: What needs to be done:
*And DJ report for LTT Pure Trance https://img.discogs.com/YWLqQUTTOl75qCnEIF6mTlzkph8=/fit-in/600x856/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-37802-1104642993.jpg.jpg ; might then be able to better use or give better context to the Record Mirror review *And DJ report for LTT Pure Trance https://img.discogs.com/YWLqQUTTOl75qCnEIF6mTlzkph8=/fit-in/600x856/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-37802-1104642993.jpg.jpg ; might then be able to better use or give better context to the Record Mirror review
* reorder list/see if is now time for a break/move on to off-wiki duties * reorder list/possible focus on one article (])/see if is now time for a break/move on to off-wiki duties
* <s>cat Top-importance KLF ref formatting, done as far as Cauty section "Ambient house". Be careful (i.e. check formatting and reliability) of references in Arts section and other new stuff... idk if added by an insider or somebody who hasn't quite mastered the cite templates but either way they will need attention (as one I wanted to add was already there but formatted ''slighty'' sub-par)</s>
**Given up on this, there is too much to do for one person. I will repair Library of Mu refs, and clean up smaller articles, then it is time to concentrate on just one article (]) or leave Misplaced Pages or go back to doing admin duties and cleanup
* ] has some easy citation opportunities (AV media in places), and some sources on the talk page which would make for nice additions * ] has some easy citation opportunities (AV media in places), and some sources on the talk page which would make for nice additions
* If not already used, this ref from the LTTT article ''might'' be useful in career overviews or elsewhere {{cite web|last1=Ewing|first1=Tom|title=42. KLF – "Last Train To Transcentral"|url=http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/1999/10/42-klf-last-train-to-transcentral/|work=]|accessdate=24 March 2020|date=28 October 1999}} (although it's arguably already used more an as career summary than a review of the song in LTTT, so may want to adjust tjhat if use in KLF too) Alsohttps://web.archive.org/web/20160916113500/http://www.libraryofmu.net/display-resource.php?id=445 possibly of use for career retros, if not already used and provided we don't already have too many positive reviews * If not already used, this ref from the LTTT article ''might'' be useful in career overviews or elsewhere {{cite web|last1=Ewing|first1=Tom|title=42. KLF – "Last Train To Transcentral"|url=http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/1999/10/42-klf-last-train-to-transcentral/|work=]|accessdate=24 March 2020|date=28 October 1999}} (although it's arguably already used more an as career summary than a review of the song in LTTT, so may want to adjust tjhat if use in KLF too) Alsohttps://web.archive.org/web/20160916113500/http://www.libraryofmu.net/display-resource.php?id=445 possibly of use for career retros, if not already used and provided we don't already have too many positive reviews
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*] formatted all refs in the Context section, but then it gets difficult as there are lots of ''passims'' which should probably become inline citations *] formatted all refs in the Context section, but then it gets difficult as there are lots of ''passims'' which should probably become inline citations
* I saw in ] that there is a 'new' way of grouping all the refs together as named refs in a parameter to reflist, which would might make maintaining them much easier (as can just edit the references section). I wonder if there is a script modify to this format and if not how hard would it be to write one?: Pros, cons (harder to ADD a new ref, for example) and a script are at ] * I saw in ] that there is a 'new' way of grouping all the refs together as named refs in a parameter to reflist, which would might make maintaining them much easier (as can just edit the references section). I wonder if there is a script modify to this format and if not how hard would it be to write one?: Pros, cons (harder to ADD a new ref, for example) and a script are at ]
* I need to attend to business on ] <s>to avoid it going to FAR</s>: Just waiting for final feedback
*If possible, dig out my copies of ''45'' and ''Disco 2000''. The latter's ] either contradicts or expands on FTM, with a mention of grinding down the ] which would fit in nicely with their reported attempts to buy them. Also, either the same story is in ''45'' or Bill writes about writing it. Are there any news articles about B&J trying to buy the stones? ] about material being needed from ''45'', although it may be that other sources have told the same story] *If possible, dig out my copies of ''45'' and ''Disco 2000''. The latter's ] either contradicts or expands on FTM, with a mention of grinding down the ] which would fit in nicely with their reported attempts to buy them. Also, either the same story is in ''45'' or Bill writes about writing it. Are there any news articles about B&J trying to buy the stones? ] about material being needed from ''45'', although it may be that other sources have told the same story]
* Properly format references in the other remaining FAs: * Properly format references in the other remaining FAs:

Revision as of 20:28, 8 April 2020

Current business

What needs to be done:

  • And DJ report for LTT Pure Trance https://img.discogs.com/YWLqQUTTOl75qCnEIF6mTlzkph8=/fit-in/600x856/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-37802-1104642993.jpg.jpg ; might then be able to better use or give better context to the Record Mirror review
  • reorder list/possible focus on one article (The KLF)/see if is now time for a break/move on to off-wiki duties
  • Justified & Ancient has some easy citation opportunities (AV media in places), and some sources on the talk page which would make for nice additions
  • If not already used, this ref from the LTTT article might be useful in career overviews or elsewhere Ewing, Tom (28 October 1999). "42. KLF – "Last Train To Transcentral"". Freaky Trigger. Retrieved 24 March 2020. (although it's arguably already used more an as career summary than a review of the song in LTTT, so may want to adjust tjhat if use in KLF too) Alsohttps://web.archive.org/web/20160916113500/http://www.libraryofmu.net/display-resource.php?id=445 possibly of use for career retros, if not already used and provided we don't already have too many positive reviews
  • Burning: the source https://web.archive.org/web/20160916111652/http://www.libraryofmu.net/display-resource.php?id=416 may be better used in that article and perhaps others as it includes some interesting reflections from Bill and Jimmy and interactions with various figures (some of whom may even be blue-linked)
  • K Foundation art award formatted all refs in the Context section, but then it gets difficult as there are lots of passims which should probably become inline citations
  • I saw in Jeff Jones (music industry executive) that there is a 'new' way of grouping all the refs together as named refs in a parameter to reflist, which would might make maintaining them much easier (as can just edit the references section). I wonder if there is a script modify to this format and if not how hard would it be to write one?: Pros, cons (harder to ADD a new ref, for example) and a script are at Help:List-defined references
  • If possible, dig out my copies of 45 and Disco 2000. The latter's article either contradicts or expands on FTM, with a mention of grinding down the Rollright Stones which would fit in nicely with their reported attempts to buy them. Also, either the same story is in 45 or Bill writes about writing it. Are there any news articles about B&J trying to buy the stones?
  • Properly format references in the other remaining FAs:
    • All You Need Is Love: All references formatted. Not checked if there is anything which is unreferenced
    • 1987: All references formatted. Not checked if there is anything which is unreferenced
  • Expand lead of K Foundation art award
  • https://web.archive.org/web/20070827182704/http://www.libraryofmu.org/display-resource.php?id=549 (bluelinked author, bluelinked publication, ref name "Sandall-ads"; written after start of art awards ad campaign but before the Turner Prize/KF award, to which the author was a witness (double check this)) might be useful for an additional quote in K-Foundation or art award but I can't think how or if to work it in atm. Relevant section:
“ With Drummond and Cauty incommunicado, the future moves and motives of the K Foundation are as clear as mud. Quite possibly to themselves, too, a friend said last week, although he thought the K Foundation award would carry on in some form after this year.

Money isn't what they're after. They've made, lost and walked away from piles of that already; and boredom with the successful marketing of pop music was what drove them out of the pop ghetto in the first place. It's our minds, particularly where the consumption of culture is concerned, that interest Drummond and Cauty. Perhaps this childish but effective commando strike into the citadel of high culture is designed to expose complacency and greed. Perhaps it merely exercises their impish sense of mischief. Either way, this year's Turner prize is guaranteed to attract a far wider audience than usual which fulfils one of the KLF's old maxims: making the unthinkable happen.

”

Longer term

The KLF

  • At some point possibly reply on KLF talk and ask for help. Also:
    • Copyedit KLF, in particular the text about the 23 enigma and Illuminatus!. Are there better refs explaining how the JAMs are similar to the JAMMs? (possibly Higgs. Longer term - perhaps as holiday reading - I need to read this book and if it is useful, make notes and quotes with page numbers if don't have a computer with me, or cite in the relevant articles if I do) This article says Bill never finished reading Illuminatus; I think it is based on the Higgs book though
      • First impression after reading some pages: Clearly the author has read the wiki articles and/or the Library of Mu, but covers ground we don't and offers lots of opinion and commentary
    • Comparison between WikiProject approved version and current version of KLF
    • Besides the Higgs book, there is Fried & Justified: Hits, Myths, Break-Ups and Breakdowns in the Record Business 1978-9 (Bill wrote the foreward and Jimmy designedthe cover, which may be worth a sentence in their respective articles). I have already quoted this book without page numbers (because it is on Google Books but doesn't snow page numbers) in the following articles; if I get a copy I should go back and fill in the page numbers: Bill Butt, Shine So Hard, The KLF, Doctorin' the Tardis
    • And there is Turn up the Strobe
    • Consider GA nom and/or peer review of The KLF. Not sure which should come first. Need to read up on it and current processes.
  • Does the FA userbox have a field to display additional text at the end (i.e. twice)? :)

Other

  • Propose Motorsport Mag db entries for driver, team, race and circuit at wikidata:Wikidata:Property_proposal/Sports? (Magazine founded 1924; arguably a better source than driverdb)
  • Johnny Sharp aka Johnny Cigarettes is probably worth an article (and is probably cited on Misplaced Pages numerous times but but not linked). Interesting source article to start with: https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2008/jan/08/musicalhackattacks
  • Article or userspace draft on Dr Cressida Bowyer? Can start it with material from Disco 2000 and Jimmy Cauty and add new material from recent news articles about her (trajectory: early years and Angels 1-5, KLF/Jimmy/Disco 2000, science career) Don't fall foul of WP:SPOUSE (and be sure Cress is actually notable before doing anything)
  • I've listed a few delisted GAs as salvageable. They'd need references formatted, citations added where there are none, and any failure points from last time addressed (and this all noted on the talk page)
  • Consider undeleting and salvaging (besides Google, probably there are sources in the linked articles): In the City (festival). Should be an article, but would need some more references and obviously indicate important so that A7 does not apply (also, on what years was it held?) RAHaworth gave a blanket permission for festival articles speedily deleted at the time to be undeleted, at Wikipedia_talk:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion/Archive_53#Speedy_deletion_of_articles_about_music_and_film_festivals at 22:47, 7 June 2014 (UTC) There's probably also plenty of other articles which mention the event but don't link to it (or link to a deleted red link :/)
  • K Foundation Burn a Million Quid from GA to FA? ...because it's a fascinating article
    • Review article and citations. Ask Sandy Georgia if she thinks it's already ready for FAR? Or maybe ask WP FILMs or a modern arts project if they would be interested in getting K Foundation Burn... to FA? (tell them I can help in an advisory role but as WP:KLF is now a one-man band and The KLF article was demoted and there are other FAs to save I'm spread too thin to do it myself .
    • There is an interesting documentary series on YouTube link to episode 2 (ep 1 is missing at the time of writing). It is fan-made so can't be cited, but would be worth watching again with a studious eye rather than for entertainment, and if anything we don't cover adequately comes up, track down and cite the original source.

Possible Talk KLF reply

{{ping|John}} (or anyone else) If you come back, please ping me and maybe we can work together. Whilst my head has been saying "no", the heart says I'd like to see this cleaned up. In my humble opinion that needs at least 2 people. If you're not a fan, more the better. Whether or not to remove content is something which really needs to be bounced off a collaborator rather than done unilaterally. In the meantime, I've done some copy-editing, brought the article up to date with coverage of the 2017 return of The JAMs, removed a little cruft, and probably added some too. I think the 2017 section is perhaps too long but doesn't warrant a separate article other than about the book (I won't be doing one anyway). --~~~~

-- before send this, I want to compare FA version with current; also I should bear in mind that the Bill reviews were in the FA version (doesn't mean they shouldn't go of course)

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