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It is not normal to include birth names of famous people in the first line of an article? Frankly I trust Soviet records after Soviet collapse over North Korea's claims if there is any doubt there. ] (]) 04:17, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
It is not normal to include birth names of famous people in the first line of an article? Frankly I trust Soviet records after Soviet collapse over North Korea's claims if there is any doubt there. ] (]) 04:17, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
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Kim Jong-il (officially transcribed Kim Jong Il; Korean: 김정일; Korean pronunciation: ; 16 February 1941 or 1942 – 17 December 2011) was the second leader of North Korea. He ruled from the death of his father, Kim Il-sung, the first leader of North Korea. His son begun his rule in 1994 until his own death in 2011. ] (]) 02:04, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
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What to do with the mostly unsourced "Official titles" section? It seems to mix actual political offices with epithets without any context. Both types of titles should be (and already are) discussed in prose. Those that are, are also rightly duplicated in the infobox and the succession boxes. I'd prefer if we removed the section and moved the link to List of Kim Jong-il's titles to the "See also" section. Thoughts? – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 17:41, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
It is not normal to include birth names of famous people in the first line of an article? Frankly I trust Soviet records after Soviet collapse over North Korea's claims if there is any doubt there. Kylesenior (talk) 04:17, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
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Kim Jong-il (officially transcribed Kim Jong Il; Korean: 김정일; Korean pronunciation: ; 16 February 1941 or 1942 – 17 December 2011) was the second leader of North Korea. He ruled from the death of his father, Kim Il-sung, the first leader of North Korea. His son begun his rule in 1994 until his own death in 2011. Kimjontom (talk) 02:04, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
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Done Thanks! RudolfRed (talk) 20:24, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Kim_Il-sung#How_to_handle_presidency_status. Sdkb (talk) 07:16, 29 February 2020 (UTC)Template:Z48
