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	I'm sorry... what? I must say, I've seen some tenuous Armenian claims but this really takes the cake. At least with Urartu there's no attempt at falsifying an actual lineage. If anyone can actually provide a credible, unambiguous source supporting this and other claimed Armenian descent for rulers of Commagene and/or Sophene, please provide details first. Thank you :] ] (]) 18:40, 25 November 2010 (UTC)		I'm sorry... what? I must say, I've seen some tenuous Armenian claims but this really takes the cake. At least with Urartu there's no attempt at falsifying an actual lineage. If anyone can actually provide a credible, unambiguous source supporting this and other claimed Armenian descent for rulers of Commagene and/or Sophene, please provide details first. Thank you :] ] (]) 18:40, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

			== Armenian origin of Ptolemaeus of Commagene ==

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			'''Samus,Arsames,Xerxes(c.260-.212BC)'''

			The connection between these Armenian Orontid kings and Commagene evidently very close. So much so that Armenia might well occupied part of that extensive principality. This theory is supported by presence of two large cities in Commagene, Samosata an Arsameia, built respectively by two successive Armenian kings. Furthermore, it was Ptolemaeus, the grandson of Arsames, and perhaps the nephew of Xerxes, who founded the royal dynasty of Commagene(c. 163BC).

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Quite frankly, much that is written on this page is unsupported speculation. The pedigree on the Nemrud Dag can by no means be taken as an actual genealogy. The "Greek" side does for instance start with Alexander the Great, followed by Seleukos I and a list of all the Seleucid kings. Alexander and Seleukos I were not related, and some of the Seleucid kings (such as Seleukos III) belonged to sidelines who were not at all ancestors of Antiochus I of Commagene, whose mother was a daughter of the Seleucid king Antiochus VIII. 84.216.46.242 (talk) 18:14, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Claims of Armenian/Orontid descent

I'm sorry... what? I must say, I've seen some tenuous Armenian claims but this really takes the cake. At least with Urartu there's no attempt at falsifying an actual lineage. If anyone can actually provide a credible, unambiguous source supporting this and other claimed Armenian descent for rulers of Commagene and/or Sophene, please provide details first. Thank you :] ZanLJackson (talk) 18:40, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Armenian origin of Ptolemaeus of Commagene

Chahin, Mack (2001). The Kingdom of Armenia. Caucasus World. Routledge. pp. 190, 191. ISBN 978-0700714520.

Samus,Arsames,Xerxes(c.260-.212BC)

The connection between these Armenian Orontid kings and Commagene evidently very close. So much so that Armenia might well occupied part of that extensive principality. This theory is supported by presence of two large cities in Commagene, Samosata an Arsameia, built respectively by two successive Armenian kings. Furthermore, it was Ptolemaeus, the grandson of Arsames, and perhaps the nephew of Xerxes, who founded the royal dynasty of Commagene(c. 163BC).

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