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Question.

Hi Raul, I don't mean to be annoying, but I didn't get an answer.. Sorry if you're busy, I don't mean to say "hurry up" or anything.. just reminding you.. I'll wait :)

Intellipedia

Comments about Intellipedia? Last I heard they were looking at a HTML-based "wiki"...

Permission To Land Section

Hey Raul, just thought I'd leave you a message to say that someone had messed around with the section on Permission to Land part of the darkness page, I tried to put in stuff from the actual album page but it needs defaulting, I left a message on the discussions part of that page, but I thought I would contact you, hope thats alright, anyways keep up the good work.

Link -> http://en.wikipedia.org/The_Darkness#Permission_To_Land

Theming Icon 20:27, 3 November 2006 (GMT)

Featured Article of the Day Guide Request

Raul654 can you make a guide on how to request a Featured Article of the Day, because I can't understand all the tech terms that you use in the forms. Thanks Jeffmister

Iran-Iraq War Abrbitraion

Mark, Mark here. My level of stress is high over this article. My concern is factual information in context. What we have here is one partisan ramrodding his view into the article. Many have noticed a pro-Iranian slant. It's no accident. No one is disputing the actual US actions in this conflict, only the inflationary puffery propaganda as arranged and selectively sourced in the article as it stands now. No one can add context and sources without having it reverted repeatedly and with insults to anyone trying to participate as a "POV Pusher." I'm an Internet crap magnet when it comes to bluntness. It's a family trait. I say what I think, but this is beyond the pale. Look at the evidence and weigh in if you would. Thanks. Marky48

Problem with an image of Harold Pinter that you uploaded (tagged for speedy deletion due to lack of rationale for fair use as claimed)

Would you support putting the number of FA's on the front page?

Hi there Raul, I know this has come up before but I was wondering what you thought of putting the number of FAs on the front page just after the total article count? I would appreciate it if you could comment on the talk:main page topic entitled: "Number of FAs mentioned as well as total number of articles, please" thanks, Witty lama 04:32, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Replied there. Raul654 22:21, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Raul, There seems to be support for putting an FA ticker on the Main Page, and even more support for placing it in the FA box. I'm willing to take the plunge. As an initial step, I have created {{FA number}} to see what the suggested wording would look like plugged into {{TFAfooter}}:

Archive – By email – All 6663 featured articles

You are obviously the key person in this and, before I implement it, I wanted to see if you are OK updating {{FA number}}. I would of course protect the template and replace the occurrences of the number at Misplaced Pages:Featured articles, allowing one-stop updating. Thanks, BanyanTree 22:10, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm in favor of the idea, but as I said on talk:main page, I'm not especially keen on adding yet another step to the (already time-consuming) promotion process. Any thoughts on the matter? Raul654 20:45, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

We can modify WP:FA, so you only need to edit {{FA number}}, and don't have to update the number of articles at the top. How does that sound? Titoxd 21:02, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

It's definitely another page to add to the watchlist. However, it doesn't require any more edits than already used. For the counter idea to work without a template would require admins to watch for changes at WP:FA and then directly modify {{TFAfooter}}, but that seems to clearly add to the number of edits required, and duplicates effort. Given the benefit of one-stop updating allowing other users to transclude the number for use in other pages, and finally getting a counter on the Main Page, I would say that using a template would be much more elegant. Cheers, BanyanTree 21:38, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Given what appears to be a clear consensus in the discussion and no firm opposes, I am being bold and implementing Zocky's modification of Witty lama's original proposal. Thanks, BanyanTree 21:26, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Raul, one major use of documentation subpages, as Template:FA number/doc, is that it allows non-admins to add categories and interwikis to protected templates without asking an admin to do it for them. - BanyanTree 20:30, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Realistically, how often do they need to do that? It doesn't seem like a huge imposition on them, versus having yet another page to keep track of. Raul654 20:34, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Operation Downfall

Hello,

I have a habit of asking stupid questions. Comes from being a PhD student. Moreover, my questions are frequently so stupid that people almost invariably take them as sarcasm, instead of the straightforward requests for information that they actually are.

So if you wanna drop a line on my talk page and explain to me why the prettiness of a page is more important than its verifiability, I would be sincerely grateful. I also promise I won't respond, except perhaps to ask for amplification or clarification.

--Ling.Nut 03:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

(Replied on his talk page). Raul654 22:14, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/December 7, 2006

Just a heads up that I recorded a spoken version of the article Extrasolar planet just then, which is the featured article for tomorrow, so you may have to add something to the FA synopsis text. Thanks. enochlau (talk) 14:13, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

No, it's all right - we don't link spoken versions from the main page. Raul654 22:23, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah ok, cool, just checking! :) enochlau (talk) 23:27, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Dien Bien Phu

Hey, hope you don't mind me adding some citations and whatnot from the Bernard Fall book. I had to be careful, though, since we both know the book tends to be a little biased towards the French :) — Deckiller 06:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, please do. I also have that book sitting in my lap (I stopped at my Uni's research library the other day and cleaned out the Dien Bien Phu shelf) but any help would be greatly appreciated. Raul654 06:08, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

BOT - Regarding your recent protection of Extrasolar planet:

You recently protected this page but did not give a protection summary. If this is an actual (not deleted) article, talk, or project page, make sure that it is listed on WP:PP. VoABot will automatically list such protected pages only if there is a summary. Do not remove this notice until a day or so, otherwise it may get reposted. Thanks. VoABot 23:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I've fixed it; looks like you removed the edit protection and left the move protection, which made it look like you'd move protected without a summary. I unprotected and reprotected to leave log entries and keep the bot happy. Essjay (Talk) 00:34, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Time-sensitive question

I hope you recognize what this refers to. May I have a speedy reply? Durova 01:58, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

DB-Nonsense Article

Hello Raul I originally reported this to another admin but it seems that they may be away at the moment. The creator of this db nonsense article has created several articles with nonsense content. Could you take a look at them please? Thank you.¤~Persian Poet Gal 03:58, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

All fixed. Raul654 03:59, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Nice work!¤~Persian Poet Gal 04:02, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Harassment and FA hijacking

Dear Raul, sorry to bother you with wiki-politics, but at my RfC I have just been accussed of 1) harrassing you; 2) using WP:FA for propaganda and 3) hijacking WP:FAC voting with canvassing votes from a Polish cabal :> I thought you, as a person I presumably harrassed into having close to 20 FACs approved, may want to take an opportunity to comment there :) -- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  16:10, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

This message is what the RFC is about. Piotrus, please look at your contributions and estimate how much of them are "requests for input", "Ghirlandajo said... so I search for your opinion", "I know that you have had conflicts with Ghirla, so please comment on his latest outburst...", "thanks for reporting on Ghirla's actions", etc, etc. I don't know how others feel in such situations, but I regards such actions as unseemly and incivil. --Ghirla 17:10, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

If you use somebody as an example to back up your 'case', I believe they have the right to know they are being used. Your 'Piotrus harasses Raul' example has already been criticized at the above link by several users; and indeed, your posts lacking any diffs like above to show quite nicely what this RfC is about.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  19:47, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

FA of the day request

Raul, could you possibly tell me how I should request a featured article to become "Featured Article of the Day"? Much thanks, Absecon 59 00:35, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/requests -- ALoan (Talk) 14:15, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

FAC list Template

Hey Raul,

As u r more competent in stuff related to FAC, I thought I'd post this here. Is there a way links to all the current FACs from the FAC page can be auto generated into a template (which would be automatically updated when a new FAC comes in and when successful FAC listings are archived)?? Such a template could be of great use in userpages, so that interested people would know what articles are up for discussion in their talkpage itself and could actively participate in the current FAC discussions which are of interest.

It requires some technical knowledge. Cheers. -- Chez 03:03, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

RE Khe Sanh

Raul (I love that name) thanks for the complement on the K.S. article. I could't even slip that one into A-Class. Check out it's assessment review, I think you will find it quite interesting. RM Gillespie 14:55, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: FAC

Dear Raul,

I had a question regarding the FAC for Ohio Wesleyan University. We just addressed a major concern regarding the Activism section by restructuring the section, trimming it down and removing POV language. There are several but minor issues related to copyedit, references and a few other things brought up. I wanted to ask you (1) how we can relist the FAC for the page once we address the remaining issues (2) if you might be willing to provide advice on how to improve the page. Thank you so much for your time! WikiprojectOWU 18:48, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

FA schedule

Hi Raul, sorry to bother you...I was just wondering when we can expect the aldol reaction page to appear on the front page? Thanks. Eugene Kwan 01:39, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to butt in here. I did a chemistry degree, but that article has brought back bad nightmares... :-) I don't mean that in a bad way. It is a great article, but very, um, technical. But hey, that shows the diversity of Misplaced Pages, from Bulbasaur to History of erotic depictions via aldol reaction! Carcharoth 01:53, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks...I think.  :) Eugene Kwan 02:59, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks re California Gold Rush FA

Special thank you for your continuing contribution and for your kind selection of California Gold Rush as an FA. NorCalHistory 02:23, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Featured Media

As FA director you may be interested in a proposal to change Featured Pictures to Featured Media. see here: Wikipedia_talk:Featured_picture_candidates#Proposal The idea is to keep a high amount of traffic to the candidates page while having separate criteria and listing pages for each type of media. -Ravedave 05:06, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

RE Khe Sanh Again

Raul, I put that article up again for an A-Class review. See if you can get your two cents worth in. RM Gillespie 15:18, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Semi-protection of Germany

Hi. I was wondering whether you would reconsider your unprotection of the Germany article. The article is currently an FA candidate and so there's quite a bit of work going on and the constant vandalism is a distraction. Pascal.Tesson 14:54, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok, if you consider it a distraction on working on FAC suggestion, I'll leave it semi-protected for the duration of the FAC nom (but without the obscene 'this article is semiprotected' template at the top of the article). Raul654 19:47, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Semi-protection of templates in FA

Hi Raul, I was one of the major contributors to Enzyme inhibitor. This article is now in the main-page queue. I was wondering if it was now advised to semi-protect the templates and images before the normal wave of vandalism? Thanks. TimVickers 19:17, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, if you are so inclined, you can protect the templates and images. Raul654 19:45, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Hero of Belarus

Saw your note as I was trying to clean up the talk page - should I also remove the old FAR from Bodyline? I thought we would need a complete record of arhived FACs and FARs, in case they ever went to FAR again. Second noms (for FAC or FAR) often seem to be messed up. Sandy (Talk) 21:47, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I think it should be removed. I also agree 100%, that for second noms, the system is sub-optimal. My way of dealing with repromtoed articles has been to strip them clean, with no mention of the first FA/FARC nom, and treat them as new FAs. It's not perfect, but I think it's the least likely to confuse people. Raul654 21:49, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

ok, done, thanks - will check list of all 11 re-promoted articles, from Misplaced Pages:Former featured articles. Sandy (Talk) 21:51, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Excellent, and thank you. Raul654 02:13, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Converting media?

Hi Raul654,

You were listed as being able to transcode media. Can you convert a .mov into a suitable format for inclusion here? Please respond on my talk page; I'll respond on yours. Thank you! Triddle 04:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

(Replied on his talk page) Raul654 05:26, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

WP:TFA suggestions

I see that the TFAs for the Christmas period are not yet selected. If I may be so bold, some suggestions:

• United States Bill of Rights for 15 December (date when ratified in 1791)

• Cretan War for 24 December (per request)
• Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope for 25 December(seems appropriate for Christmas day)
• Arthur Ernest Percival for 26 December (born on that date in 1887)

• Kroger Babb for 30 December (born on that date in 1906)

• Operation Auca for 8 January (51st anniversary of attack in 1956)

There are another 102 (!) candidates at Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/requests, though. -- ALoan (Talk) 12:18, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh - I see 15 December has gone already. Never mind. The 215th anniversary seemed appropriate, though - it is a WP:SA anyway. -- ALoan (Talk) 12:21, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Project Mainpages

Hi, I think its a great idea for each project to have it's main page, to start with im working on WikiProject_Judaism, and the draft is here. I would very much apprecaite your help in getting the coding right. At the moment I'm at a bit of a standstill, please have a look. Thanks FrummerThanThou 23:49, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikilogos

This has already sparked allot of interest and you where mentioned. Check out my proposal for Misplaced Pages to use logo variations created by members of the wiki community to mark national and international awareness days, Remembrance Days, notable anniversaries, and observance days. Please comment on Misplaced Pages:Village_pump_(proposals)#Logo Variations and on my talk page. Thanks! FrummerThanThou 11:12, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Spam.jpg

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Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Misplaced Pages page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Abu Badali 17:53, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/December 24, 2006

Hi Raul,

When we took Banksia integrifolia through FAC, it was pointed out that what was then the opening sentence,

"Banksia integrifolia is a species of tree in the plant genus Banksia."

is largely redundant to readers who are familiar with binomial nomenclature. i.e. after reading the first two words, they already know that it is a species in the genus Banksia, so the rest of the sentence tells them very little. We fixed that for the B. integrifolia article, and I had been meaning to fix it in the B. brownii article too. Your selection of B. brownii for TFA has prompted me to do so. If my change to the article is not rejected, then I would like to update Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/December 24, 2006 too. Any objections to that?

Hesperian 01:25, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Hesperian 02:45, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Notification of Featured Picture delisting nomination

Hi Raul, an image which you created, Image:Wfm stata center.jpg, has been nominated for delisting from Featured Picture status. You may wish to contribute to the discussion here. All the best, --YFB ¿ 02:19, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Oliver Smith

I see this article you started on June 3 2004 hasn't got a references section. Did you use that bio or the external link as a ref in writing this? By the way, I think I'm going to move the article since there's a whole lot of people by that name, so I think it makes sense to have the dab at this page instead. - Mgm| 21:38, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I used the external link to the Marine Corps biography of him to write the initial stub. After that, Looper appears to have done most of the writing. Raul654 23:08, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Piotrus

Concerning this statement. I'm not surprized that Piotrus asked you to comment: that he constantly asks dozens editors to comment on my edits is one of the reasons for the RfC. I'm suprized that you mention some claims of "sockpuppeting" on his part. Could you clear up who made such claims against Piotrus and on which page? By Piotr's meatpuppets I mean a group of users who would support him whatever he does or says. From what I have read on WP:SOCK, meatpuppets are accounts which "may have been solicited by someone to support a specific angle in a debate". There is incontrovertible evidence that Piotr regularly solicits support for his actions on Poland-related noticeboard. This is quite different from sockpuppetry, no? --Ghirla 16:58, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

TFA

Raul, is there any chance of asking you to change your chosen Today's Featured Article on December 19 from that Muslim guy to Jake Gyllenhaal? I don't know what connection the guy has to December 19, but Jake's birthday is tomorrow and it would be really great if we could put him on the front page instead. How do you decide, generally, what to put on the front page when? Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 06:39, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

FA

Thanks for reverting me. Someone got their fix in just before I did, I think. Was that a template hacker? It seemed like the only thing was to go back to an unhacked version, but someone got there before I did. Thanks again. Cheers, Moreschi 17:06, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

A question

Hello Raul654, I have the following question concerning Misplaced Pages, if you could help me solve it, I'd appreciate:

I want to include a reference in an article, from a known academic. The reference is not from the academic's university professional homepage, but from his personnal homepage, which indeed contain references. Can I refer to his personnal homepage, or is it not considered as valid for Misplaced Pages ? I haven't found a way to solve this up to now.

Thanks !

TwoHorned 11:37, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

If you are referencing something he's an expert on, I don't see why a reference to his personal page would be unacceptable. Raul654 03:01, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Question about music

The source link on http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Handel_-_messiah_-_44_hallelujah.ogg is dead. Do you know where I can find the original site?

Asmeurer 07:01, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

I think the internet archive has some of it backed up. Raul654 03:00, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

BOT - Regarding your recent protection of Template:TFAempty:

You recently protected this page but did not give a protection summary. If this is an actual (not deleted) article, talk, or project page, make sure that it is listed on WP:PP. VoABot will automatically list such protected pages only if there is a summary. Do not remove this notice until a day or so, otherwise it may get reposted. Thanks. VoABot 23:02, 20 December 2006 (UTC)