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Battleground

May I ask who you're calling a "notorious anti-Trump editor" here? Please recollect that Misplaced Pages is not a battleground. The words "(R-Arizona)" were first added in June 2019 by Parkwells. Is that who you're referring to? Bishonen | tålk 19:24, 24 July 2020 (UTC).

Sure. WikiBlame attributed it to (name deleted, see next comment) who added the whole Trump section. He is one of the handful of most active anti-Trumpists on the site Sesquivalent (talk) 19:30, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Correction. Trump's comments were in the first week of October 2016 and a POV section about them including the opinion of "Republican Senator John McCain" was originally added 10 Oct 2016 by another user who is also very active in anti-Trump and pro-leftism editing, but not the one I had mentioned. Then another likeminded user made it more POV, calling the section "False Accusations by Donald Trump" and amplifying the language. Much later, the user I had in mind was part of an edit battle over this section, which I think is what showed up in Wikiblame. It should not surprise anyone that are multiple anti-Trumpers patrolling these pages (as opposed to editors who happen to dislike Trump but are not specifically monitoring or seeking to influence pages on American politics). Sesquivalent (talk) 08:29, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

In regards to this, please don't edit war. If you are reverted, you are expected to start a discussion on the talk page. Your link in the edit sum goes nowhere and with your response above, this is a POV laden edit that shouldn't stand. Valeince (talk) 19:46, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

One reversion is not an edit war. The link works; it goes to https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:Search&limit=500&offset=0&ns0=1&search=%22senator+john+mccain%22&advancedSearch-current={} , which is a search for "Senator John McCain" showing how few of those have actually listed him as R-AZ outside of legislation and elections. @Valeince: Sesquivalent (talk) 20:02, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

As to "POV laden edit", the whole section is somewhat POV, and my edit either rolls that back very slightly toward neutrality (but not reaching it yet), or, according to your view that the removed R-AZ is perfunctory POV-free information, is irrelevant to any POV matters one way or the other. Sesquivalent (talk) 20:07, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Look, I'm not going to argue with you what an edit war is or what is considered POV editing. But you cannot make edits based on reasoning like you gave above or say.. defend new users that are making pro white supremacy edits from being blocked, less you want to be prevented from editing the AP area. I'm not going to revert on the page again but you really need to rethink your approach here. Valeince (talk) 20:10, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Good luck convincing the topic banners that the current discussion at another user's Talk page can be honestly summarized as "defending... pro white supremacy". Whether instant unilateral blocks of new users with one (immediately reverted) edit are proper is a distinct issue from the content of the edits.

Do you have any disagreement with the conclusion from the McCain search link, that it's not routine to include the information? Sesquivalent (talk) 20:45, 24 July 2020 (UTC)