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Hyphen
Why do you insist on a hyphen, as in 1781-1789, rather than an en-dash, as in 1781–1789, the latter being prescribed by WP:MOS? Michael Hardy (talk) 00:47, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- I didn't even notice that, but to be honest, that's a guideline I don't pay much attention to anyway. I can barely even see a difference between a hyphen and an en-dash on my tablet screen, my eyes are so bad. I normally just use hyphens when I type, and leave it to others to sort it all out. It's all too confusing, and so different from what I was taught in English and typing classes over 30 years ago. And it seems to change every few years here anyway. IIRC, the n-dash between dates was only put in the MOS in the last couple of years, but I could be wrong on the timing. But I'll try to be more careful in the future. - BilCat (talk) 01:42, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- I'm astonished that you think it was only in the last couple of years. It goes back at least 15 years. I remember in about 2009 wondering why some people were _still_ not aware of it. Michael Hardy (talk) 18:41, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- If I can interject here, I often see the same issue. There has never been any degree of actual day-to-day "editing consensus" on hyphens, vs endash, vs emdash vs etc, regardless of MOS, policy or guidelines. My keyboard doesn't have an endash or emdash key, only a hyphen key. Oh, I know how to write them in HTML5, but that is not appreciated here, so, like Bill, I write my articles with hyphens only. Often other editors appear and change everything to endashes, emdashes, double hyphens or something else, always quoting some MOS page or other. I just leave them. Then, soon, another editor will show up and change them again, quoting some other MOS interpretation. And, then, some time later, another editor will appear, MOS in hand, and change them all back to hyphens. I just watch and get on with writing articles. Outside my window the trees sprout leaves in the spring, are green all summer and then they fall to the ground in autumn, the trees sit dormant all winter and then the leaves grow back in the spring. So it is with hyphens and dashes. Perhaps my next computer will have an endash or emdash key on it. Perhaps the hyphen and dash warriors will call a truce and come up with a policy that makes some sense. Perhaps the leaves will stop falling in the autumn, too. - Ahunt (talk) 19:05, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- I'm astonished that you think it was only in the last couple of years. It goes back at least 15 years. I remember in about 2009 wondering why some people were _still_ not aware of it. Michael Hardy (talk) 18:41, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- Exactly. - BilCat (talk) 19:18, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
There actually a number of questionable guidelines I'm no longer enforcing. I'm not purposefully violating them, but I'm not expending any effort to revert them when I see them. We have far too many guidelines in the MOS as a whole, and unfortunately many contradict each other. There are also far too many users in Misplaced Pages whose sole or primary purpose appears to be to write as many new guidelines as possible. Most of them are trying to enforce their own narrow prescriptivist grammar rules, and they really have no interest in actually writing for an encyclopedia. I tend to ignore those users and their rules. - BilCat (talk) 21:40, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
Sometimes enforcing the MOS is just tedious work, especially to enforce guidelines I really don't agree with in the first place. I already reverted this user once today, only to subsequently discover that they've been making the same types of edits to dozens of articles for several days. I'm beginning to remember why I retired last year! - BilCat (talk) 01:04, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
Welcome back
Last time I checked your user page, it showed that you were retired. The reason I remember your username is because you were the first one to 'thank' my edits back in 2017 (diff/767857493 and diff/767847280) when I was very young and naive on this project. I hope you well soon and would like to take the opportunity to welcome you back. Stay safe. Regards, Field Marshal (talk) 20:35, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
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AFD on the Bigsworth Board
Dear BilCat - sorry to bother you. Could you have another little look at your contribution to the Afd on the Bigsworth Board (- a little page I made)? I think you might have "voted" twice... which might not be what you meant to do. I am struggling a bit with aging so might not be right ... Anyway. Best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 08:23, 2 August 2020 (UTC))
- Thanks, I forgot to strike out my original comment. I'm struggling with aging too! - BilCat (talk) 14:57, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
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