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== Objections to recent additions ==

] recently added two paragraphs to this article and I have objections to them.

The first paragraph was added in a new "COVID-19" section:
:Librarians and other library workers in the ] who weren't stationed inside the library due to library closures were deployed as work from home ] contact tracers to aid in contacting individuals believed to have contracted Covid-19, encouraging them to ], while also educating them about safety during the pandemic.<ref>{{Cite web|title=Librarians Recruited as COVID-19 Hunters|url=https://americanlibrariesmagazine.org/blogs/the-scoop/contact-tracing-librarians-recruited-as-covid-19-hunters/|access-date=2020-10-25|website=American Libraries Magazine|language=en-US}}</ref>

I object to this material because it implies that many or all "librarians and other library workers" were employed as contact tracers. The supporting reference doesn't support that claim; it only describes a couple of libraries.

The second paragraph was added in the "Popular culture" section:
:In popular culture it has become a trend to say, "Librarian, the original search engine." It was has gained quite a lot of traction in social media and among librarians but some simply loathe the slogan or comparison.<ref>{{Cite web|date=2012-11-30|title=You would not say, "Astronomers: The Original Telescope"|url=https://litwinbooks.com/you-would-not-say-astronomers-the-original-telescope/|access-date=2020-10-27|website=Litwin Books & Library Juice Press|language=en-US}}</ref>

The cited source is a blog post entirely insufficient to support the broad claims made in the paragraph. We need much stronger sourcing to support claims made in an encyclopedia article. ] (]) 02:29, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

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Top picture

The top picture does not reflect a librarian. It's not even a person and would be better in the section about librarians in popular culture (which I also think needs an update). I think the article would be better served by showing librarians doing actual librarianship. I'm looking into more pictures. There's quite a few nice ones of librarians "in action" on commons. I hope others weigh in, otherwise, I'll be bold and pick something out. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:31, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

I agree! This photo shows two librarians from San Francisco Public Library "in action" but honestly I'd be happy with anything you pick out. https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Librarians_at_Bay_Area_WikSalon_-_2.jpg Merrilee (talk) 19:04, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
@Merrilee: I do like that picture. I think we could use it in the article (which I think needs a lot of work!). But for the top picture, I really want to see an "action shot" of people in a library doing library stuff, and bonus for diversity! I haven't found the pic I'm "in love with" yet. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 02:13, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
I also just noticed that there's no section about librarians and Misplaced Pages! This article needs major work!!! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 02:15, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
No thanks. ElKevbo (talk) 06:18, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
Except that librarians have helped improve Misplaced Pages through #1lib#1ref. It's not navel gazing if it's noteworthy. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:57, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Objections to recent additions

LibraryTea recently added two paragraphs to this article and I have objections to them.

The first paragraph was added in a new "COVID-19" section:

Librarians and other library workers in the United states who weren't stationed inside the library due to library closures were deployed as work from home COVID-19 contact tracers to aid in contacting individuals believed to have contracted Covid-19, encouraging them to self-quarantine, while also educating them about safety during the pandemic.

I object to this material because it implies that many or all "librarians and other library workers" were employed as contact tracers. The supporting reference doesn't support that claim; it only describes a couple of libraries.

The second paragraph was added in the "Popular culture" section:

In popular culture it has become a trend to say, "Librarian, the original search engine." It was has gained quite a lot of traction in social media and among librarians but some simply loathe the slogan or comparison.

The cited source is a blog post entirely insufficient to support the broad claims made in the paragraph. We need much stronger sourcing to support claims made in an encyclopedia article. ElKevbo (talk) 02:29, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

References

  1. "Librarians Recruited as COVID-19 Hunters". American Libraries Magazine. Retrieved 2020-10-25.
  2. "You would not say, "Astronomers: The Original Telescope"". Litwin Books & Library Juice Press. 2012-11-30. Retrieved 2020-10-27.
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