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- @Moheen: Is the IP address that you are editing from a Proxy or VPN service? A user was spamming prescription drug sites from the same address yesterday. ST47 (talk) 06:11, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
- @ST47: No, I didn't use any Proxy or VPN service. I am just using this IP from my office. ~Moheen 06:14, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
- Moheen, tcp port 1723 is open using ptpp, eDonkey is on tcp port 4662, gnutella is on tcp port 6346, and napster is on tcp port 6699. Those are from my port scans...there are more filtered ports. IPQualityscore reports proxy, TOR, recent abuse and active bots from this address. Port 1723 indicates that this is indeed running proxy services. The range is blocked here as having likely compromised servers. You should perhaps have a word with someone in IT if that isn't the department where you work.
— Berean Hunter (talk) 09:18, 25 December 2019 (UTC) - Adding that there are a total of 13 open ports. In addition to the four tcp ports that I have labeled above, the following udp ports are of interest.
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— Berean Hunter (talk) 10:26, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
- Moheen, tcp port 1723 is open using ptpp, eDonkey is on tcp port 4662, gnutella is on tcp port 6346, and napster is on tcp port 6699. Those are from my port scans...there are more filtered ports. IPQualityscore reports proxy, TOR, recent abuse and active bots from this address. Port 1723 indicates that this is indeed running proxy services. The range is blocked here as having likely compromised servers. You should perhaps have a word with someone in IT if that isn't the department where you work.
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January 2020
Dear Moheen! I liked your contributions of Kourosh Yaghmaei article, can you make an article about Iranian actor Cihangir Gaffari (جهانگیر غفاری) and find references from Iranian and Turkish sites, and old photos, he also played in some Hollywood movies include Hundra and Bloodsport 1988 which was credited as John Foster? Thank you! --95.54.103.156 (talk) 14:46, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
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A request
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April 2020, Volume 6, Issue 4, Numbers 150, 151, 159, 160, 161, 162
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A big thanks
@Moheen:, Thanks for creating the article Sab Kichu Bhene Pare, will you please create English-language version article of একটি খুনের স্বপ্ন? Also I am requesting you to say something in Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Ahmed Rajib Haider (3rd nomination).
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Request for deletion of Murang people
Hello Moheen, The topic is already on wikipedia as https://en.wikipedia.org/Mru_people_(Mrucha). Thanks Goldflakes (talk) 20:11, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
July 2020 at Women in Red
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Regarding Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Fahim Saleh
Hi, Moheen your AFD nomination has brought attention of many WP:SPA. I just cleaned up some spamming, tagged the WP:SPA and added {{notavote}} tag for a better and clear discussion. Hope it helps. Thank you ~ Amkgp 💬 18:05, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
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- @Sphilbrick: I am working on it Brother and will correct all those things asap. ~Moheen 11:42, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
August 2020 at Women in Red
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Thank You!
Thanks a lot For making Avash. Before the article existed, Avash used to redirect to its front-man (Tanzir Tuhin)'s article. They deserve their own article, so THANKS!--Suborno Sabbir (talk) 04:10, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Suborno Sabbir: You are welcome! ~Moheen 08:23, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
September Women in Red edithons
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October editathons from Women in Red
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Misplaced Pages Asian Month 2020
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November edit-a-thons from Women in Red
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