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==Terrorism in country categories==
I saw you created the Terrorism in Sri Lanka category a while back. A new user is upset by the use of the word terrorism and is removing categories from pages at random. I would appreciate it if you would take a look at, and consider reverting the user's edits to, ], ], and ]. Thanks, ] 02:45, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

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Raveen, I think you should be part of this regarding the Arsath case .

An interesting article I read

Hi Raveen S. I wanted to pass on an article I read. It's called Double standards and appeared on this site, as well as on here. . It talks about the massacre in Kathiraveli and another massacre in Beit Hanoun. It cites the Asian tribune on one occasion - a site that is hardly a benchmark of credible journalism, but anyway I thought you might want to read the article. I think it's good.Citermon 08:12, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Kumar Ponnambalam

I created the initial article about kumar, although I do not anyway agree with his controversial political views, as a person he was a well articulated who had many singhalese friends. I have run into trouble citing sources, maybe you can continue to improve on it. I do not think that it qualifies as state sponsored terrorism however as it appears to be a personal issue with regard to kumars political views by the despicable Mahen Ratwatte. Ratwatte's sons as a whole are a national disgrace and there actions should not constitute as a expression of the sinhala viewpoint. Kumar was towing the LTTE line for many years quite freely in the heart of colombo, this appears to be more of a personal vendetta rather than a state event. Kerr avon 14:19, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks I will look into it. Agree we should be very careful about the word State terrorism as you have find a RS that says it was. I learnt that much from the debateRaveenS 14:21, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
I made some more modifications citing newspapers excerpts regarding Kumar and tried to maintain a NPOV with regard to the parties involved. Please feel free to edit it, as it needs polishing and more research to make a good article, regardless of his political views he was a good man who as a lawyer defended sinhalese people too sometimes appearing free of charge when he saw social injustice. You have shown yourself to be a good editor and with your knowledge of Tamil affairs you should be able to improve it considerably. Thanks.Kerr avon 18:34, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Project page vandalism

Check this Sudharsansn (talk contribs) 11:20, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

what for ??

Why should i apologize for something which i dint do ?? please,kindly,stop making false accusations or otherwise i'm going to warn for you civility and report you to appropriate authority. --Iwazaki 11:41, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I said IF you had. Well read it properly before beliving that I accused you, we simply have to follow Wiki process then. ThanksRaveenS 17:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
though u said IF, you sounded like pretty much sure it was me.Please follow the wiki process instead of having baseless accusations on a fellow wikipedian

--Iwazaki 01:59, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

well..you sounded like pretty much sure it was me..And since then,you have emphasizes the IF part, and these accusations are completely irrelevant to me, i simply choose to ignore the whole things..For creating new articles, having seen what happened to the article "terrorist attack carried out by the LTTE" and seen how biased are some "decision making people", i guess i need to think a million times before doing anything here.anyway, thanks for the idea.--Iwazaki 03:47, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Notable attacks attributed to the LTTE

Hi. For your information, and further to the DRV discussion, I've restored Notable attacks attributed to the LTTE. Proto::type 14:25, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I thought you had a message to me or to Sebastian Raja, but I cannot find it. Sebastian is one of my students. You can send the message to meor to Sebas. Thanks

Permission to edit and add too

You have my permission to edit and add too Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Seabhcan/Evidence#Evidence_presented_by_User:Travb as you see fit. Travb (talk) 15:20, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Rajkumar Kanagasingam

Though the Rajkumar Kanagasingam was posted by me to the wikipedia originally but wrongly as a newbie (and still feel so), it was actually created by Wackymacs and subsequently shaped by others , , , and .

After they all have given notability for Rajkumar Kanagasingam only, I started to shape the Rajkumar Kanagasingam.

The Daily News of Sri Lanka is a Sri Lanka's National Newspaper since 1918 and the widest read newspaper in Sri Lanka and overseas.

Rajkumar Kanagasingam has published articles over the years and the following articles , , and are available online since 2002.

Though the articles have been written by the subject Rajkumar Kanagasingam, the facts he has mentioned in those articles might have well accepted by the populace without any complaint before he published the next article over the years and might have established some credibility within the Editorial circle as well.

I wonder why those articles can't be considered as Reference for Rajkumar Kanagasingam.

The Press Release in Daily News could speak for Rajkumar Kanagasingam's association with leading Sri Lankan and international personalities and adding notability for Rajkumar Kanagasingam.

The US State Department's Office of Weapons Removal and Abatements "Safe Passage" Newsletter carried a news on "Night of A Thousand Dinners" which was organised jointly by Asian-German Sports Exchange Program and PDIP, A Think Tank which was founded by Rajkumar Kanagasingam.

As the PDIP's Secretary-General, his activities in the available publications (on-line) will speak for his achievements.

All of his above attempts are substantial enough for a fair testimony for his notability among Sri Lankans and gives weight of his book German Memories in Asia which is about-to-be-released.

Ezine Articles may be "Vanity Press" but the contents in most of the articles by Rajkumar Kanagasingam are falling in the lines of well-researched and well-documented articles than those of mere Search Engine Optimization (SEO) ones.

After all his Ezine Articles are linking to his Book/Author Info. Page in AGSEP, which is an NGO and not to his personal or affiliated sites with ulterior motives of Ad Sense and click-gimmicks. As an author he is trying his fair attempt for his book without any hidden baits.


Some of the linkings might be Link Farms as I am a newbie of mere three months, but you should consider few of the internationally prominent people I have so far created and those have been left out in the wikipedia so far, especially Dr. Gamani Corea and others.

I have spent lot of my time to keep Dominic Jeeva from deletion with rest of my creations Arumaipperumal and Pandara Vannian which are not falling into the Link Farms.

The Internet is introduced after the mid nineties and still most of the news items are not falling into the web-world. By expecting reference for testing a person's notability with on-line reference materials might be some times misleading where the particular persons' references are mostly in off-line media archives.

Internet is mostly weighing a person's prominence based on the Internet availability in English and few other languages and not in all other world or local languages.

I don't have any objections if suitable and appropriate deleting Rajkumar Kanagasingam from wikipedia, but my kind expectation is at least wikipedia should attempt to have a survey among Sri Lankans through its available means whether Rajkumar Kanagasingam is prominent enough or not among Sri Lankans.

User:Rajsingam 2 December 2006

Special Task Force

Hey there, There has been a flutter of POV and un-wikipedian editing going on at the Special Task Force page and I can't handle it alone. --Sharz 02:51, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

LTTE mediation

Mediation on Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-10-20 Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam will resume in 24 hours. We still don't have a representative for the position that the proscription should be removed from the intro. You seem like a good editor, so please consider signing up under "Other parties". — Sebastian 22:01, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

'Thanugulen'...?

I'm actually not Thanugulen, just one of his fans... thank you for the kind words though. :)Willlaister 11:55, 15 December 2006 (UTC)Meyv.

Kilinochchi

Hi Raveen,

I altered Kilinochchi as it becomes too controversial.

Rajsingam 16 Dec. 2006



Kilinochchi

Hi Raveen,

I will add the source in the coming days for Nagas.

I will complete Vipulandha very soon.

Rajsingam 17 Dec. 2006


Jaffna

Hi Raveen,

I altered Jaffna.

Rajsingam 17 Dec. 2006

Deceptive block message

You left a message for User:Mithunan saying that he had been blocked () when, in fact, his block log shows that he has never been blocked: . While it is true that his edits are inappropriate for Misplaced Pages, that doesn't give you permission to lie about such things, or to pose as someone who has the authority to block him. These actions are disruptive in themselves. Please be sure not to do so in the future, regarding Mithunan or any other editor. FreplySpang 15:45, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry I was not ware that I could'nt use the template {{|Blocked}} Thanks RaveenS
Okay, just don't do it again. Using the template doesn't actually block the person. Only admins can actually block someone. Thanks for being careful about the 3RR rule, too. I've done a bit of cleanup on Anton Balasingham, removing the message that Mithunan posted. FreplySpang 17:57, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
I've blocked him for 24 hours; perhaps that will get his attention. The note you left on his page was very nice - thank you for taking the time to try to help a newbie! In the future, you may get a quicker response by reporting a case like this to WP:AIV instead of to just one admin. Regards, FreplySpang 22:05, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Massacres

Thanks for the help organizing and stratifying the cat.Bakaman 04:13, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

They were all sinhalese my dear friend

It was good that you created a separate article for "Pothuvil massacre" ,as it clearly exposed the true nature of the LTTE agenda.Having said that, I must say, that you are quite wrong in calling the dead Sinhalese fishermen at Kent and Dollar farm, tamil speakers. Negombo may have had, a minority tamil community which became sinhalized. But the vast majority of the "negombo" sinhalese are certainly do not have a tamil origin..Or I could say ,this is actually the other way around.as North and East was predominantly Sinhalese for centuries(Esp East which had a certain sinhalese majority as late as 1815),there is a huge possibility that many tamils have sinhalese origins. I have read an article by an English Gentlemen ,in which he said many sinhalese lived in east became tamilised during the British time..Since almost all the public workers were tamils and they were the ones who were directly had contact with british rulers and tamil was exclusively used in every aspect of life, many sinhalese had no choice but to give up their language(and customs). A sad truth !! Have you noticed that the many place names of north and east are Sinhalese origin ?? --Iwazaki 10:07, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

well,while accepting some of the karava and durava cast have south indean root, i must its hypothetical to generalize this to all the people belong to those casts. Actually i've done quite bit of reading about these things, esp the durava cast(there are plenty of books at vajirarama temple),and i couldnt find out a single evidence to prove that, the first duraves or karaves are actually tamils.Thought the fact that, they have come from south indea is true, you have to remember that there is a good portion of south indeans who are actually have "north or central indean" roots.DO you know the legends say that the first duraves refused to disembark from the ship ,unless the sinhalese king come and welcome them personally ?? Also, pls bear in mind , that even in Present tamil nadu, esp in madras, there are many teligu speaking people who dont consider them selves tamil..I have met around 10 native tamils(all are friends now) here, and none of them consider them selves tamil, coz they all have "teligu"roots.--Iwazaki 05:05, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
raveen brother, read your lengthy description at my talk page.well, I must tell you that, Iam indeed surprised and obviously impressed of your knowledge of certain things,which many sri lankans happily ignored for a quite a long time.Though some of your knowledge is flawed ,there is a chance for you to learn some and hopefully I ll get the same opportunities here.

coming back to one of the main issues here, I must again ,should say with confidence that, many of the present day Sinhalese karaves and duraves do not have any south Indian roots at all..Though the beginning of these casts may have south indian origin ,and its quite certain as in the legends and for certain extent history , earliest karaves came from south india, there is absolutely no evidence to prove that they were in fact tamils. Not only were buddhist from the very beginning ,their physical characters were quite of not totally different to that of ordinary tamil people..Please, read the books written about sinhalese people by foreign travellers such as philip baldeaus.He had clearly stated that sinhalese and tamils(malabar) are not only different in the language they spoke, but also different in their complexes,skin colour and etc..And having seeing all my karave friends and relatives,I must say, I'am so far unable to see any similarities of them and tamils..But that doesnt mean, the original karaves were north indians..Why would i even say that ?? Though the migration of north Indians to the south during the time of mugal empire is a known fact for everyone, you must also remember that, there are south Indian people, who have been living there for centuries and yet do not consider them selves as tamils.And, teligu speakers are the best example.Actually, I met two of my teligu friends who are working as IT engineers in nagoya ,last weekend, and they assured me that, most of them do not consider them selves tamils!! I really hope some day ,there will be a proper DNA test, so we can put everything into rest..And I am sure the test will prove Sinhalese karaves and duravas are quite different to tamils in tamilnadu. BTW, I didnt know M. Karunanidhi is a teligu..But what I know that he is using the tamil racist card very well.We all know what happened to that famous tamil actor ,who had none tamil roots,when he tried to run for an election,don't we ??

As for your comments of muslims, why would you even think they are native tamil speakers ??!!! When most of the muslims in western coast do not consider tamil as their native language at all !! Muslims in Sri Lanka have various origins.Some may have come from the land of Arabia and some may have actually sinhalese origins..And since they live in Sri Lanka ,where the majority speaks sinhalese and historically a sinhalese land, I dont see any reason for them not to take sinhalese as their mother tongue.thanks--Iwazaki 16:18, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Cat

Hi Raveen, how are you? why are you changing categories on Sukhumi Massacre and Ethnic cleansing of Georgians in Abkhazia? Was there any complaints regarding the categorizations? Thanks in advance, best regards. Ldingley 16:49, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

I wasn't accusing you of being provocative by calling them war crimes; I was suggesting that you were being provocative by calling them war crimes committed in Georgia. I didn't realise that this was part of a broader recategorisation project, however; my mistake. The article editors can work out what to do with this situation on a local level. Rebecca 23:01, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi!

Hi Raveen, looks like you are really enjoying with my two title bars on your userpage. They fit your userpage beautifully too. No offense, you can always use anything I create since we all release everything under GFDL. --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ 11:10, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Anton Balasingham image

I don't know and I don't want to know the content of that picture(Balaannanswiss 2.jpg), but I'm pretty sure that it can be categorized as SPAM because it was released by LTTE. I don't mind if you can crop that picture and upload it in to the article, or else you can change the license of Anton Balasingham1.jpg into Misplaced Pages:Image_description_page#Fair_use_rationale rationale. --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ 21:09, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Dominic Jeeva

Hello!

I have done a extensive copyedit to the article on Dominic Jeeva (diff). However I have not been able to address the fundamental issue of whether or not he is still alive. Could you perhaps bring some clarity on that point?

Sincerely, --Oden 06:42, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Anton Balasingham

Thousands of Tamils in London and from overseas paid their last respect to Anton Balasingham, their one time hope for peace in their home land and the LTTE’s theoretician and chief negotiator at Alexandra Palace in north London.


Image:Anton Balasingham.jpg

Balasingham’s casket was placed at the front of the Palace’s Great Hall was escorted in by an honour guard, white gloved and dressed in black suits. After a brief initial ceremony, where hundreds of Tamil activists around the world participated by placing flower petals on Balasingham’s body, followed by a long line of families with children, youth and older Tamils and distinguished personalities internationally.

While paying respects, many wept openly, others prayed and some lifted their young children so they also could place petals. Community organizations from across the world have sent representatives and they placed dozens of wreaths and bouquets alongside the casket. While one said ‘Voice of the Nation’, the title bestowed on the LTTE theoretician by the movement, another said ‘Uncle’, the title by which many LTTE cadres used to address him affectionately.

Thousands of people from far away places arrived in several coaches and flights from Switzerland, France, Canada, US, Australia, Norway and Germany were waiting outside the venue on a freezing cold day and the queue snaked back from the Great Hall.

Balasingham was cremated shortly afterwards at a private ceremony leaving the people for whom he was fighting for by his intellectual wisdom.


I have well placed the reference for the above article, please let me know where I stand.

Rajsingam 24 Dec. 2006

C.C:

Oden RaveenS Bakasuprman SiobhanHansa Wackymacs Seraphimblade

Anton Balasingham

Hi, Can you do few editing on "Funeral in London" to make more NPOV.


Rajsingam 26 Dec. 2006

Fair use image in user namespace

Hello!

A fair use image has been used in this user namespace (Image:Anton Balasingham.jpg in User talk:RaveenS). Criterion 9 of the Misplaced Pages:Fair use criteria states that "Fair use images may be used only in the article namespace. Used outside article space, they are not covered under the fair use doctrine." I have removed it on these grounds.

Sincerely, --Oden 20:09, 26 December 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for caring me. But I used to forget personal attacks after some time.

Rajsingam 02:46, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

hi

Of note to you may be this.Bakaman 05:47, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Rajkumar Kanagasingam

Hi,

I kindly request here Jimmy Wales, Administrators and other senior editors to verify the good faith of the User:Nv8200p for placing AfD tag than "This article needs expansion" just two days after my controversial discussion for my community in the discussion page of Anton Balasingham. Rajsingam 11:31, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Oden RaveenS Bakasuprman SiobhanHansa Wackymacs Seraphimblade

References (off-line media archives) on Rajkumar Kanagasingam

Oden RaveenS Bakasuprman SiobhanHansa Wackymacs Seraphimblade Rajsingam 16:24, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Rep

No, actually I didn't. If you look at carefully on my userpage you will notice an userbox called "This user is a newpage patroller." --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ 16:15, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

It is a damn good excuse:))), one even I would use but I will keep an eye on this situation in the future but as needed in resolving conflicts I have made my request to you. Thanks

Sinhala massacres

I wanted to compliment you on your job relating to articles on Sinhala massacres. I suggest you watch carefully for many Buddhist fanatics who will put in racist propaganda in many articles.Thank you and keep up the good work. Rumpelstiltskin223 18:55, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Brother, I consider them civilian massacres both the SL gov and LTTE does a good dose of them. As I am primarily here to improve content about SL Tamils, it will look like I am only writing about SL gov massacres. But when LTTE kills Tamils, I will also write about them. But overall, dont take anything personally, dont react to personal attacks. carefully document them. Warn people using correct policies such as WP:AGF, WP:Civil, WP:NPOV, WP:RS...etc as soon as you seem them in the place you see them. Once you have a collection including evidence about sock puppetry then you can take it to Admin to get the person banned. It is that easy but mots of the time those who usually offend change their behaviour that is if they can read and write English. Take careRaveenS 22:06, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Raveen

At first glance I would say that the references to the Sri Lanka Monitor are a little shaky. The Sri Lanka Monitor just does not look like a credible news website to me, because it looks very simple, and I'm pretty sure there is no contact information. This source, however, is rich with articles, has contact information, and appears very professional:]. I would suggest using this reference instead. Then I can copyedit. Thanks for thinking of me before things escalated. Nina Odell 13:07, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm doing a million things at once, it seems. I'll get to these articles today, okay? Thanks for bringing them to my attention. I know these things happened, there are plenty of sources. Nina Odell 18:18, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Princess Diana Institute of Peace

Hi,

I kindly request you to have a look on the Princess Diana Institute of Peace whether the details I have submitted are meeting the criteria for citation. Thanks Rajsingam 11:08, 8 January 2007 (UTC)



Oden RaveenS Bakasuprman SiobhanHansa Wackymacs User talk:Seraphimblade User talk:Freedom skies User talk:Rumpelstiltskin223 User talk:Dangerous-Boy User talk:Ccscott User talk:Dennisthe2 User talk:DoDoBirds User talk:Mariano Anto Bruno Mascarenhas User talk:Tarinth

Hi Raveen

I've copyedited the first article, and have a reference for the second:]. Try using this reference in addition to the Sri Lanka Monitor. If only because it's prettier and more professional-looking. That does, unfortunately, make a difference to some people. Nina Odell 13:34, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Note!

Raveen, this may be the way you assume WP:AGF.first it was sharz, labelling me as a sock puppet of Snowolf..Then you ! Well, at least you tried to keep things transparent by commenting at my talk page.Oh, One more thing..Please stop telling stories about stalking..I have no reason to follow your edits..BUT I certainly keep a close eye about "State terrorism" and that Dubious template..I closely follow anything in those..And I do want to make edits at those controversial pages..I am just waiting for a reply from User sebastian, before making my decisions..Hope I made my self clear..--Iwazaki 21:24, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I am always as open as possible in these circumstances. I just felt that you both are the same because of the way you are reacting to me and the past history of Lahiru_k. I will try to find more evidence. If it is false, I will withdraw the case and apologize to both. Atleast then I know that I am dealing with 2 different people not one. If there is evidence then the Wikiprocess will take over. Hope you understand. And I agree that the dubious template should be replaced with one that Netmonger made. ThanksRaveenS

No need

Yeah no need to apologies, you are trying to make sure what you are thinking and you are just follow the basic actions. But I know who I am and I hereby I ask from you to take back that request and post it after the TFD was over with along the Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser. Because its says "Vote fraud on ongoing vote - Wait until vote closes before listing". We all have been vote there and and if you ask for a checkuser now they will decline that. Checkuser is the easiest way to prove me that we not sockpuppets. I hope that you will reconsider about my above requests. Thank you --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ 21:34, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

OK I will do that but check user alone does not catch sock puppetry, behaviors , edit patterns, times etc all together is decided. In good faith I am removing this request.RaveenS

Terrorism in country categories

I saw you created the Terrorism in Sri Lanka category a while back. A new user is upset by the use of the word terrorism and is removing categories from pages at random. I would appreciate it if you would take a look at, and consider reverting the user's edits to, East Turkestan Islamic Movement, Grey Wolves, and Kurdistan Workers Party. Thanks, KazakhPol 02:45, 9 January 2007 (UTC)