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Genetic origins
This information has been removed, with the following edit summary: "Removed vandalistic revision." I think it is relevant and should be included.
The modern Uzbek population represents varying degrees of diversity derived from the high traffic invasion routes through Central Asia. Once populated by Iranian tribes and other Indo-European people, Central Asia experienced numerous invasions emanating out of Mongolia that would drastically affect the region. According to recent genetic genealogy testing, the genetic admixture of the Uzbeks clusters somewhere between the Iranian peoples and the Mongols.
From the 3rd century B.C., Central Asia experienced nomadic expansions of Altaic-speaking oriental-looking people, and their incursions continued for hundreds of years, beginning with the Hsiung-Nu (who may be ancestors of the Huns), in ~300 B.C., and followed by the Turks, in the 1st millennium A.D., and the Mongol expansions of the 13th century. High levels of haplogroup 10 and its derivative, haplogroup 36 , are found in most of the Altaic-speaking populations and are a good indicator of the genetic impact of these nomadic groups. The expanding waves of Altaic-speaking nomads involved not only eastern Central Asia—where their genetic contribution is strong, —but also regions farther west, like Iran, Iraq, Anatolia, and the Caucasus, as well as Europe, which was reached by both the Huns and the Mongols. In these western regions, however, the genetic contribution is low or undetectable (...), even though the power of these invaders was sometimes strong enough to impose a language replacement, as in Turkey and Azerbaijan (...). The difference could be due to the population density of the different geographical areas. Eastern regions of Central Asia must have had a low population density at the time, so an external contribution could have had a great genetic impact. In contrast, the western regions were more densely inhabited, and it is likely that the existing populations were more numerous than the conquering nomads, therefore leading to only a small genetic impact. Thus, the admixture estimate from North-East Asia is high in the east, but is barely detectable west of Uzbekistan..
Another study shows that the Uzbeks are closely related to other Turkic peoples of Central Asia and rather distant from Iranian people. The study also analysed the maternal and paternal DNA haplogroups and shows that Turkic speaking groups are more homogenous than Iranian speaking groups. According to a recent study, the Kyrgyz, Kazakhs, Uzbeks, and Turkmens share more of their gene pool with various East Asian and Siberian populations than with West Asian or European populations. The study further suggests that both migration and linguistic assimilation helped to spread the Turkic languages in Eurasia.
References
- ^ Tatjana Zerjal; et al. (2002). "A Genetic Landscape Reshaped by Recent Events: Y-Chromosomal Insights into Central Asia". The American Journal of Human Genetics. 71 (3): 466–482. doi:10.1086/342096. PMC 419996. PMID 12145751.
- Heyer, Evelyne; Balaresque, Patricia; Jobling, Mark A.; Quintana-Murci, Lluis; Chaix, Raphaelle; Segurel, Laure; Aldashev, Almaz; Hegay, Tanya (2009-09-01). "Genetic diversity and the emergence of ethnic groups in Central Asia". BMC Genetics. 10 (1): 49. doi:10.1186/1471-2156-10-49. ISSN 1471-2156. PMC 2745423. PMID 19723301.
{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link) - Villems, Richard; Khusnutdinova, Elza; Kivisild, Toomas; Yepiskoposyan, Levon; Voevoda, Mikhail; Osipova, Ludmila; Malyarchuk, Boris; Derenko, Miroslava; Damba, Larisa (2015-04-21). "The Genetic Legacy of the Expansion of Turkic-Speaking Nomads across Eurasia". PLOS Genetics. 11 (4): e1005068. doi:10.1371/journal.pgen.1005068. ISSN 1553-7404. PMC 4405460. PMID 25898006.
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Thoughts? -- Tobby72 (talk) 16:38, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
The references cited here are primary research concerning genetic origins of human populations. The consensus (at WP:SCIRS is that such material should be sourced per WP:SCIRS, meaning, among other criteria, that it should be a secondary source. The lengthy quotation from the author is also WP:UNDUE. That's why this section was removed in the first place. - Hunan201p (talk) 02:25, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
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- Not done, Facebook is not a reliable source, please cite a published WP:RS. – Thjarkur (talk) 13:20, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
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Sogdiana and Sasanid empire
- There is no evidence that the Sogdiana was a part of Sasanid Empire.Khorazmiy (talk) 16:51, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
RfC on what the primary topic of this article should be
People of Uzbek ethnicity and people of Ubzek nationality are both referred to by the term "Uzbeks". This conflation of ethnicity and nationality is also characteristic of other ethnicities and nationalities. The implications of these conflations for the primary topic of Misplaced Pages articles has been discussed at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Ethnic groups#"Germans", "French people" etc - ethnicity vs nationality. This issue is also of relevance to our article on Uzbeks. That leads to the question: What should be the primary topic of this article?
- People of Uzbek ethnicity
- People of Uzbek nationality (i.e. people with Uzbek citizenship)
- The term "Uzbeks" itself (per WP:WORDISSUBJECT)
- There is no primary topic for the term "Uzbeks"
- Something else (feel free to elaborate)
Krakkos (talk) 15:43, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
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