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Reversion

Chris, please explain the reason for this reversion — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.51.26.18 (talk) 17:49, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Regardless of what you claim BBC says, Misplaced Pages is not going to say what militant Muslims are trying to do. I didn't look at your source but we need to have solid sourcing for making a claim like that. Chris Troutman (talk) 17:52, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

that "source" was already in the article (the last citation in the section titled, "In modern times"), so can you restore that sentence? I don't want any edit war here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.51.26.18 (talk) 18:02, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

As the material is already in the article, it doesn't need to be added. Although it is in the article, it's doesn't need to be in the lede per WP:UNDUE. Jizya has existed for millennia and one BBC report saying Daesh is imposing it doesn't require a mention in the lede. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:33, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Nope

To editor Arsi786: I reverted you. Please discuss before attempting to do again. Chris Troutman (talk) 23:50, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

To editor Chris troutman:The reference given lead's you no where and you cannot know if that part of the text was actually in that reference given also if you read above and read the consituotion of medina how can you class them as second class citiens if they had the same rights as muslims?~Arsi786 (talk)

@Arsi786: First, the Constitution of Medina only applied to that particular time. Clearly, dhimmitude was discriminatory. Second, the source cited is a book by Majid Khadduri and you can find it in a library and check pages 196-198. That's what we mean by verifiability. I can only wonder why you think it appropriate to removed cited material with such a flimsy excuse. Chris Troutman (talk) 03:00, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Dhimmi communities incomplete

There's sections to early Christian and Jewish communities in the Levant and Hindu communities in India (Buddhists aren't really covered), but where's the data on Christians in North Africa and Spain, Zoroastrians which were a major religious group in the early caliphates, Jains, African polytheistic religions and the old Arab polytheist religion? J390 (talk) 01:06, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Hindus and Buddhists section

This section doesn't seem to be directly connected to the topic. There does not seem to be any discussion of Hindu or Buddhist Dhimmi communities (though there are references to them elsewhere in the article) and infact the term is not even used once.39.37.185.43 (talk) 02:56, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Unsourced claims of second-class status

I placed the unreliable source and citation needed tags on the claims of second class status in this argument months ago and since there has been no effort to add sources I am now leaning towards deletion. The only source provided is a link to a much less reputable wiki page, which is not a scholarly source. If you want to source what that page says you have to follow the sources from that page and link those. You cannot just cite an ideologically biased wiki page as definitive evidence on a historical topic. Those who wish to keep the references to supposed second-class status would do well to add a real source before it is deleted. Puma6374 (talk) 16:46, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Edits by IP

This edit by IP is problematic. It adds to the lead something that is not covered in the body. The lead is for summarizing, not adding new information. It also doesn't capture the nuance in the sources.

Finally, linking "non-Muslim" to kafir is controversial at best.VR _talk 15:51, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

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