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Restored page from obvious POV edit unfairly favoring the Iglesia Ni Cristo.

I'm a member, and I think that quote describes the INC succintly and perfectly. It has created its share of controversy, and mainly focuses on discrediting Presbyterian and Catholic ideology.

Does this part sound NPOV? "Noted for its distinctive church architecture of narrow pointed spires, it is a controversial organization that seeks to disestablish the doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church, which is the predominant religion in the country."

"and many say that the Church administration was told to stop by Internal Revenue Service agents": sounds like a rumor to me. Isn't this supposed to be an encyclopedia?

Just Church of Christ

I think there is some confusion here. Unless this is talking about a different group, Iglesia ni Christo is just "Church of Christ" in another language. This article sounds like it more or less describes the Church of Christ, with some confusion from people who probably don't understand it. The Church of Christ was certainly not established in the Philippines! 69.148.82.46 17:29, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The name Iglesia Ni Cristo specifically refers to the organization created by Felix Y. Manalo.

Two Points

First of all, this group is an indigenous Filipino group and is not identical to the Church of Christ of the American Restoration Movement, which also has a major mission work in the Philippines, adding to confusion regarding the two groups. Also, both claim to be nothing more than just the continuation or restoration of the original church established by Jesus Christ; whether either group or any such group has the actual right to claim such a thing must be of needs left to a higher Authority than myself, or Misplaced Pages.

Second, yes, the name is no more than "Church of Christ" in Tagalog (Filipino).

Rlquall 23:59, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

"Disestablishment"

This term needs to be cut from the article in my opinion as well. This improperly implies that the Catholic Church is officially recognized in the Republic of the Philippines as the state religion, which I do not believe to be the case. "Disestablishment" is a term of art meaning to abolish a denomination's status as an official state church. Perhaps the terms "disprove" or "dispute" should be used instead? Rlquall 00:07, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Perteinence

Does it matter that much whether a Filipino-centered group has 501(c)(3) status in the U.S. or not, or whether it endorses candidates in U.S. elections to make that a focus of the article or even merit a mention. Obviously there are Filipinos in the U.S., including members of this group, as there are in almost every country in the world, but is this really worth mentioning in an encyclopeida article about this group? Also, the alleged resemblance between its buildings and LDS buildings should either be demonstrated with (noncopyrighted) pictures or deleted IMO. Rlquall 00:02, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

This article is biased

It's quite difficult to understand the INC by just leaning on what you see on the internet. While this article tries to be NPOV, certain points suggest the authors' bias against the INC:

  • suggestion that the INC is a cult ("some say...")
  • suggestion that the INC's chapels are copied from LDS chapels (again, "some say...")
  • suggestion that the INC tries to meddle with US politics ("it has tried...")
  • questioning the supposed "questionable move" of publishing congratulatory messages from American political leaders
  • suggestion that the INC sacrifices church unity in exchange for a tax-excempt status ("many say...")

Even publishing a magazine titled "God's Message" did not escape this absurd piece of "factual" junk. "Found controversial by some"?!?

I respectfully want this article to be in a disputed status.