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Re: Blackmagick5.jpg

See why it was deleted. My guess is they you selected "For Misplaced Pages use only" (or something of that phrasing) in the dropdown box on the upload page. We don't want images that only we can use, we want images that are so free, anyone can use them for any reason. Now, you said you got an email from the owner. What did the owner say as far as you being able to publish the image? We may still be able to reupload (or undelete) the image and get it saved through another method, depending on what the painter said. Lemme know, and that'll determine our next step. --MECU≈talk 14:44, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

For how-to on archiving, see Misplaced Pages:How to archive a talk page. This not only applies to your talk page, but any talk page. I use a bot to do it for me, but I read that it's broke right now and haven't looked into the other one yet. But you don't need that capability yet, but you certainly can use it if you want to have it done for you automatically.

As for the image, it appears you don't want to try and get it freely licensed. We must then use it under fair use, which requires a few more rules and things to do. See WP:FUP for the policy and guideline. Be sure to read the criteria (mid-way down, numbered list) for the rules. I believe this would meet all of them, but you should be familiar with all of them. Before you upload the image, scale it down so you meet the FUP; I like 300px wide as a maximum (keep the aspect ratio), but there isn't a hard rule, but 300px no one will complain about being too large. If the image is already smaller than 300px wide, (like 250), then definitely still reduce it further, at least to 200 or 150 wide. When you re-upload the image (this is easier than going through deletion review), you can re-upload under the same filename, but this time, type {{Art}}, and write the rationale. Be sure to provide the source (URL). You don't need to do anything with the drop-down box. Click "watch this" before you upload. You'll probably get an error after you click upload saying that a file under this name was previously deleted, just click "save" anyways and you'll be done. Then, you should immediately go into the article and insert the item. Lemme know when you get done and I can take a look. See Misplaced Pages:Image copyright tags/Fair use for all the fair use tags if you are going to upload another image that isn't art. --MECU≈talk 15:02, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I see two major problems: One, you give a source of photobucket.com, but there's a watermark on the image from another website (of the artist perhaps) so you should give that as a source. Two, it appears merely decorative in the article, since this artwork isn't specifically talked about at all. As it stands now, the image would likely fail to remain upon a fair use review. See #8 in the fair use policy. --MECU≈talk 22:47, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, emailing and asking for information might be considered WP:NPOV (since it's from the author) and WP:OR since we can't verify the information anywhere. You would need to find a (fairly) neutral reliable source somewhere talking about this work. --MECU≈talk 23:08, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, you may want to re-upload the image (under the same name) because the new source you gave has the (c) watermark slightly different. You should also provide a link to a HTML page where the image is being used. (Be sure to reduce the image again) --MECU≈talk 23:10, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to VandalProof!

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, The undertow! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. Betacommand 03:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Yup, I realised I was using the wrong version of VandalProof. Jammy Simpson | Talk | 00:34, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Latest Kappa Alpha Order Revert

Undertow- thanks for the latest rv. I too believed it was nonsense, however, did not know whether or not it should have been removed (it was not really "harming" the article, however I did come to the same conclusions you did). D-Hell-pers 01:58, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: James Earl Salisbury

My first thought was to try and prod the article, but after reading the talk page (which you should read), I don't think that's a good idea. I would however support deletion at AFD. It does seem to be written by his son and the arguments on the talk page for notability are fairly weak: He died of SARS. Not enough for an article, perhaps being part of a list on American deaths of SARS. So yah, go through and list at WP:AFD, if you need help, let me know. It's fairly simple, just follow the directions. Be sure to notify the two users that have been discussing it on the talk page on their talk pages. --MECU≈talk 12:46, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

The ironic thing is:

Five minutes ago, Bigguyjim probably thought 'oral sex' meant talking dirty... HalfShadow 03:35, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Borat

It nice! --BaseballDetective 09:38, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Firefox

Aren't we all? :) You can change it back if you like, no worries. Fvasconcellos 02:56, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Getting burnt out

This is a problem that many encounter. I'm semi-burnt out, and the solution I've found is to write articles. I started/expanded a few articles recently and the satisfaction from that is greater than going on vandal patrol, or image patrol (as I named it). If you want to help out with images, the first thing you should do is install this script: User talk:Howcheng/quickimgdelete.js. Next, try and understand what each button you'll click will do to an image. It should be fairly self evident, but if not, please ask. Take a look at WP:IFD and read the information about what to do and no do there, and then also the WP:CSD criteria for images (and the general and article sections won't hurt either, since many times I come across articles that have images that should be speedied). Then, go look for images. You can either go through the list of orphaned images (I'll recommend this) or look at new images Special:Newimages (which are typically from new users, for which WP:BITE still applies).

Things that are commons that you'll come across:

• Redundant images. New users don't realize they can edit the image page, so they typically will just reupload an image. I've seen the same image uploaded up to 7 times before. Look for the one that is used, and mark all other redundant to that one. I'll do this even if there are other deletion notices on the page since speedy deletion for redundant is better than deletion in 7+ days for no license, etc.
• Replaceable fair use. Images of current people in their current state, or existing buildings, be sure to look for a source and fair use rationale (and read that first!) as well.
• No source/no license/both. No license is the easiest to spot. No source is harder, and if someone claims GFDL-self, you have to count that as a source. Logos and albumcovers are typically given a pass (by me, but you can fight this if you wish).
• Orphaned fair use. (a little more rare now thanks to User:BJBot, but still occurs. If any fair use tag is not used in an image, you mark it with this.

That's probably enough to get you started. If you have questions, the best way would be to contact me on IRC so I can help you immediately with that specific image, but through talk pages will certainly be fine as well. Sorry for the delay in the reply, my internet has been out at home for the first time in years. Good luck! --MECU≈talk 13:24, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

This is all you need (It's all I have in my script page, for this script). You installed the whole script when you just need one small part to refer to it. I dunno if you even need the "required" add-ins anymore:

/**** quick image delete ****/
/**** required add-ins ****/
/*
*/
//addlink function
document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="'
            + 'http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:Omegatron/monobook.js/addlink.js'
            + '&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>');
/*** second required add-in ***/
/*Returns the name of the page. For example, if you were browsing the "]" WP page, getPname() would return "foo".*/
function getPname() {
  return wgPageName.replace(/_/g, ' ');
}
/*** end required add-ins ***/
/**** main quickimagedelete script ****/
document.write('<script type="text/javascript"' +
  'src="http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:Howcheng/quickimgdelete.js' +
  '&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>');
/* This is to keep track of who is using this extension: ] */

Be sure to refresh your browser to get it to update. --MECU≈talk 12:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

RE: VP

Hello. Which version of VandalProof were you approved for, and which were you trying to use when you got denied? Thanks. —Xyrael / 21:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

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Re: your comment

No worries! It honestly took me four or five goes before I came up with a way to word it that felt right. I guess it wasn't as simple as I thought. :-/ Pleasure to help. —GrimRevenant 00:57, 22 March 2007 (UTC)