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@Drmies: Looking at your edits , it seems like most of those fall under WP:BLPSELFPUB? I'm just starting a thread here to open up a discussion. 〜 ⠀snowy🌼meadows˙ 14:49, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

SnowyMeadows, thanks, but I don't think SELFPUB is a license for us to beef up (or fluff up) biographies. Like, "Stallman is a world traveler and has visited at least 65 countries"--there really is no way in which this should be in a BLP in the first place, and that it's self-sourced doesn't help. Similar with the other stuff. Opinions are great, but to be encyclopedic a secondary source will have to argue that it is. This biography is huge, and contains, IMO, way too much ... well, it's very peacocky. (BTW I'm having a hard time reading your signature, sorry.) Drmies (talk) 15:24, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

@Drmies: But the quote you are specifically referencing about Stallman being a world traveler was not from a self-published source It's from Boston magazine. Did you remove that by mistake? 〜 ⠀snowy🌼meadows˙ 15:35, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Oh, was it? I thought most of them were--then I removed that one because I think it's too fluffy, or see the point of it. Drmies (talk) 15:45, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

@Drmies: I do agree "world traveler" is maybe a bit fluffy. But also, the fact that Stallman travels the world as a "free software evangelist" is mentioned in the source, and seems to go towards his notability. I guess we're getting a bit off-topic though. I see you've made subsequent edits that try to give an example, but I guess I'm specifically talking about the diffs above. Not generally. Can you explain the rest of these edits? 〜 ⠀snowy🌼meadows˙ 16:47, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

are edits that claim grandiosity and board membership, based on the GNU Bulletin, not an independent secondary source, and to his own personal calendar (!); ditto--with a pretty self-explanatory edit summary, since this is in fact common practice; and and these are unused citations, to primary sources and his own calendar. BTW I still can't easily read your signature. Please have a look at WP:SIGAPP, fifth item. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 17:38, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

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@Drmies: You should make a post to my user talk page about it. I'm honestly happy to make changes based on specific concerns, especially if it's a color contrast issue of some sort. I just don't want to discuss my signature on a BLP talk page. 〜 ⠀snowy🌼meadows˙ 18:02, 13 October 2022 (UTC) You could just change it--you could have done so already. Drmies (talk) 18:12, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

@Drmies: Concerning this paragraph specifically , maybe we could ascribe notability with the following two secondary sources 〜 ⠀snowy🌼meadows˙ 19:57, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

References

Tozzi, Christopher (2017-08-11). For Fun and Profit: A History of the Free and Open Source Software Revolution. MIT Press. ISBN 978-0-262-34118-9. (Even less potent was a campaign in 1988 by Stallman and some fellow hackers to distribute buttons bearing the inscription "Keep Your Lawyers Off My Computer" to combat Apple's actions.) Still, the confrontation was notable for the precedent it set.
Williams, Sam (2010). Free as in Freedom (2.0): Richard Stallman and the Free Software Revolution. Free Software Foundation. ISBN 978-0-9831592-1-6. then followed up the ad by helping to organize a group to protest the corporations filing the suit.

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"GNU Zealousy"

Doesn´t it belong in here somewhere, the phrase "GNU Zealousy". It was very commonly used around 2000, and to describe "GNU Zealots" and their abusive behaviour. (very known). RMS has later had opinions pro-pedophilia! GNU could indeed be a pro-pedophilia statement. 84.215.119.50 (talk) 14:27, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

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