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The other part you restored I agree is well sourced. I didnt think it was needed for the section and their reaction so I thought it could be trimmed for space but there was no problem with it Softlemonades (talk) 15:03, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
Since Wikileaks no longer works and documents can no longer be pulled up whether through search or direct links, all descriptions of Wikileaks should be changed to past tense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.1.63.216 (talk) 02:08, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
I think MOS:TENSE says we describe events in past tense but the article is in present
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Always use present tense for verbs that describe genres, types and classes, even if the subject of the description (e.g. program, library, device) no longer exists, is discontinued or is unsupported/unmaintained.Softlem (talk) 10:35, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
We don't need to include the time, or the time after death, that a quote from JFK was reported by The New York Times. If it's on the page it should be sourced and given accurately. But such a detail is not relevant to the article. Cambial — foliar❧12:36, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
Sources like the one about the password and the quote use the word reportedly to describe the quote. It uses that word twice and brings up the timeline
The password is a reference to a famous quote by former US President John F. Kennedy, reportedly given to a senior administration official one month before he was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald in 1963. According to the official, quoted in a New York Times report published three years after his death, Kennedy said he wanted “to splinter the CIA in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds”.
I agree it should be sourced and given accurately, and an inflammatory quote should have context. Saying who published and that it was years after the person died is normal Softlem (talk) 12:42, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
That source usefully points out the provenance of the password in the quote. More reliable sources, including The New York Times and the academic work cited, simply give this as a quote. The claim of three years is factually incorrect. There's no indication that it's "inflammatory". What do you think is the relevance of the date it was published to this article about Wikileaks? Cambial — foliar❧12:52, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
There's no indication that it's "inflammatory" A President allegedly saying the CIA should be shattered is not inflammatory? Am I understanding a word wrong again? Softlem (talk) 12:58, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
It's a quote from the US president about a proposed internal policy decision. What do you think is the relevance of the date it was published in a US newspaper of record to this article about Wikileaks? Cambial — foliar❧13:04, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
Any quote first published years after someone died is questionable because they can't respond to it or deny it. If its inflammatory and we attribute it we should say when it was published or link to a wiki article that has context Softlem (talk) 13:10, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
Move or rename Inadequate curation and violations of personal privacy