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What needs to be added?
i can do the research.Mashedpotatoes52 02:15 PM, 29 January 2021 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 20:16, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Gangs and Filters
I created the section for gangs and filters, please help me include some information on these as I'm fairly new to the tuner world and most of the tuners listed on fmtunerinfo.com were made in the decade before I was borned. Your wisdom (you know who you are!) are needed! =) Dept of Alchemy 08:05, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
Merge?
I suggest that this article (alongside Tuner (television)) be merged to Tuner (electronics). - Fanatix 06:45, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
I Disagree, the other terminology that has been introduced leads readers to other wikis. A tuner in electronics can tune more radio and video. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JordoCo (talk • contribs)
Merge from Tuner (electronics) and Tuner (television)
This article seems to be the best one the merge the stub Tuner (electronics) and the narrow Tuner (television) into. Yes? Dicklyon (talk) 03:50, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
Digital Tuners - A Misnomer
There is no such thing as a digital "tuner". Digital is a modulation scheme that is applied to a frequency. You "tune" to a frequency, and demodulate the encoding AM/FM/Digital, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.47.126.236 (talk) 17:33, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
Image gallery
@Fountains_of_Bryn_Mawr, I don't want to edit war, but I think your removal of the new images I added were a bit too extensive. Misplaced Pages:Image_use_policy#Adding_images_to_articles doesn't place a limit on the number of images. I think the different images are informative. Andre🚐 21:58, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- I restored the 2 images I had removed earlier, the Game Gear and the crystal radio set. I also converted the tuner images except for 2, one with tubes one front of a panel, to a gallery. Hopefully that is a reasonable compromise. The images are all a bit different and are not the same thing - some older, some newer, some wood, some Japanese, some American, etc. Andre🚐 22:10, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- I've now added some years for chronology to illustrate why I have so many images. Per
A gallery section may be appropriate in some Misplaced Pages articles if a collection of images can illustrate aspects of a subject that cannot be easily or adequately described by text or individual images
Andre🚐 22:21, 2 October 2024 (UTC) - I added a few images of the insides of Luxman and Sony to show the capacitors, gangs, filters, and other components, a German tuner so we now have German, Japanese, and American tuners, and now links to Hifiengine catalog pages and Radiomuseum, which has links to catalog, service manuals and schematics. While sort of a primary source, I think reasonable for a page like this. Hopefully the new gallery, which demonstrates aspects of tuners not readily explainable in text, and a chronology from tube tuners in the 1950s to digital tuners in the 80s and 90s, is acceptable. Andre🚐 23:45, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- The reason to remove the images is that Misplaced Pages is not a repository of images. Images should be placed in context and against descriptive text (MOS:PERTINENCE), and be readable at thumbnail. 10 redundant images of radio tuner face-plates, some scattered across unrelated sections, have no encyclopedic value. The current version of the article still has the same problems, (un-readable) thumbnails of redundant images (pictures of radio tuner face-plates). When you have to read a caption to even find out what the image is it points to little encyclopedic value. And they are still scattered around as decrative images unrelated to text. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 15:16, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- I disagree. The images aren't redundant. They illustrate a chronology and different aspects of the evolution of design. And they are related to the text. Andre🚐 20:15, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- I tend to agree with @Fountains of Bryn Mawr. I have tried to arrange the images in the first section per MOS:PERTINENCE and found only two images to be useful. I will make another pass and delete the others if we can't get a good consensus here to keep the extras currently at the top of the section.
- The gallery is more problematic. If we think readers are interested in a collection of images like this, we can put a WikiMedia link to them in an External links section.
- Another alternative is to write more text describing the chronology; just the addition of years to the captions isn't connecting for me. I am, however, skeptical that a detailed timeline of product development would be a helpful addition to the article. ~Kvng (talk) 15:58, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- The images show the evolution of tuner design from tube tuners, to analog solid state tuners, to digital tuners. I don't see what isn't useful or illustrative about that. Some show the inside of the tubes or the circuit boards. Some show how the Japanese tuners began to be more prevalent with the digital tuning design, and how they originally copied the American design but eventually went their own way. Are the images really bothering anyone? I originally created this article back in 2004 and it languished in a very poor state for many years. I've just recently updated it with references. Would you mind at least giving me some time to see if I can source more statements that back up my product development chronology? And why exactly wouldn't that be helpful? Andre🚐 19:58, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- The reason to remove the images is that Misplaced Pages is not a repository of images. Images should be placed in context and against descriptive text (MOS:PERTINENCE), and be readable at thumbnail. 10 redundant images of radio tuner face-plates, some scattered across unrelated sections, have no encyclopedic value. The current version of the article still has the same problems, (un-readable) thumbnails of redundant images (pictures of radio tuner face-plates). When you have to read a caption to even find out what the image is it points to little encyclopedic value. And they are still scattered around as decrative images unrelated to text. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 15:16, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
TV tuner
As I was cleaning up this article and adding references, I realized that the section on TV tuners, which was merged here back 13 years ago, is basically an entirely separate article. Also, it has no real references. While technically older CRT TVs all include a TV tuner analogous to the radio tuners that this article is really about, I'm not entirely sure that this article belongs here, and not at TV tuner card in the modern day, or as part of television set. I'm going to keep trying to find some references or useful material for it, but I wonder if I should just excise the section. Alternatively, I could try to reference it and then WP:SPLIT it off if the article gets too long. However, I'm not thrilled with it being there with a bunch of ancient technical info that was essentially added as WP:OR. Anyone with thoughts, or other general thoughts on my big rewrites, please drop 'em in the thread. Andre🚐 05:33, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- The title and a lot of the lead are sufficiently general that one can make an argument for covering both audio and video forms in the same article. I'm not sure this is what readers would be expecting. There are editors who would not hesitate to remove unsourced suspected OR material like this. I prefer to try and salvage but I'm not yet seeing an obvious way to do that here. ~Kvng (talk) 16:04, 8 October 2024 (UTC)