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Removing evidence

Artaxiad, before you revert the page, you shall discuss your changes and provide an explanation why relevant referenced information is just being removed. Garabedian was one of the leaders of ASALA, and came to prominence carrying out attacks on behalf of this organizations. So, you should not be removing this material. Atabek 09:59, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Just because its referenced doesn't mean it stays, I checked the references there irrelevant no mention of Varoujan what so ever that was my purpose for the removal, thanks. Please check them yourself or at least clarify or else it counts as original research, because they don't mention him, also not reliable sources. Artaxiad 16:52, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

The references provided only state that ASALA was considered as terrorist organization by US State Department, which is absolutely relevant. It only adds to well-sourced information in the article. Garabedian was one of the main leaders of ASALA, in fact, he was even suspected of being Hagop Hagopian, whose claimed murder in Athens remained in controversy. Garabedian would not be known otherwise if he wasn't a functionary and executor of ASALA's agenda. Atabek 08:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Corrected with minor edit the title of category Armenian Terrorism. The article should refer to that, while category is still there. Atabek 18:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Evidence

Atabek do you have any sources confirming his membership in ASALA? Vartanm 20:13, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

hri.org source claims to gotten the news from Noyan-Tapan News agency. When searching the archives of NT for the said news article, claiming that he was greeted at a highest state level, I couldn't find anything. ,,Vartanm 20:19, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Atabek I removed all 3 sources because they were irrelevant to the article. None of them proved what you were claiming. Vartanm 20:40, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Vartan, first of all, you should not remove sources without discussion. What do you mean it's irrelevant? The person was caught and charged with terrorist attack, killing scores of people at Orly Airport. He served jail sentence for it. Why is there a confusion about the facts and/or references being removed? Adding everything back. Also, I don't understand why Fedayee removed the Turkophobia tag. Was ASALA created and Garabedian committed his attacks out of love of Turkey? Atabek 11:01, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

First source.

ASALA had not conducted terrorist attacks in several years, however, and it is unclear whether the attack was carried out by ASALA, individual Armenians with no terrorist affiliation, or another terrorist group--such as the Kurdistan Workers' Party--using Yanikian as a covername. ASALA has been inactive since 1986.

Second source.

A Report on the PKK and Terrorism. what does PKK has to do with ASALA?

Third source

On December 19, in Budapest, unknown assailants fired several rounds at a car carrying Bedrettin Tunabas. unknown means it could have been my grandmother who was shooting.

You see Atabek none of the sources you provided say ASALA was named as a terrorist organization by the U.S. State Department Vartanm 15:36, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Garabedyan was greeted at highest level in Armenia. Even Armenian human rights activists criticized the Armenian government for that. I forgot the name of the guy (I think it was Danielyan), but I can find the quote from Armenian sources about this. I think his info should remain in the article. Grandmaster 17:04, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Vartanm, stop removing references and engaging in edit wars. The reference you remove from HRI without reading containt 1997 Department of State Report on Patterns of Global terrorism, which clearly, includes the sentence: "...a covername used by the Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia (ASALA), terrorist organization during the 1980s". Another reference you removed with State Departmen Briefing says:

• Q An Armenian terrorist organization, ASALA, 6 years

later, they started shooting again -- the Turkish diplomat in Budapest. Do you have anything about that?

• MR. SNYDER: Yes. On December 19, in Budapest, unknown

assailants fired several rounds at a car carrying Bedrettin Tunabas, the Turkish Ambassador to Hungary. Fortunately, the Ambassador, his security guard, and his driver all escaped injury. The attack was reportedly claimed by ASALA -- that is, the Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia."

With all due assuming of good faith, I think you're clearly engaging in an edit war taking advantage of being excluded from the recent ArbCom case. I shall inform you, that per ArbCom decisions, the ArbCom case is open ended, and can be reopened at any time with inclusion of new users clearly engaging in an edit war. So follow the guidelines, discuss your edits and stop removing references. Atabek 16:31, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

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