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ClockworkSoul 04:20, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Great job on the EVO article.
It looks great. Very good article for a diamond-in-the-rough game. Siv0r
ERC article
Heh, thanks Paul. I had a little time that should've been spent at the beach instead, but it happens. Were you at the leadership thing today?
ERC article
Heh, thanks Paul. I had a little time that should've been spent at the beach instead, but it happens. Were you at the leadership thing today? Elefuntboy 02:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Wikimedia Canada
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Death List
Perhaps you can start by explaining to me exactly what it is that makes Death List notable? If I am not mistaken it is a web forum with a relatively small amount of traffic, and it has had a negligible impact on culture -- you use the example of a Simpsons episode but each one of those has a viewership over 10 million and is *far* more notable than a lightly trafficked webforum. And yes, Death List is lightly trafficked, the Alexa ratings for it have it in the dumps. There are HUNDREDS of celebrity dead pools just like Death List (or similar variants), and none of them are notable, either. Such forums simply don't belong in Misplaced Pages as anything more than a mention, if at all. Quatloo 07:39, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
You wrote: "Your view on significance is a bit skewed I think. Why should numbers be the be all and end all? Should we do a seperate page for every episode of every show that has more than X amount of viewers? I don't think it's necessary, because Misplaced Pages is an informational source, not a fanclub for TV shows."
- You ask why numbers matter. The Death List is a creature only of the web and only of the web, and because of that, its relative significance can be easily measured by comparing its ranking with that of other websites. And it falls well into the range of non-notable websites: if something lives only on the web and few people see it, it is almost by definition not notable. If it had a life outside of the web, you might have a point, but it does not. And you act as if I did not consider keeping the text from the old article. That text added very little value to the understanding of a Dead Pool. The right thing to do here is exactly what I did, give a passing mention to it and move on. Quatloo 11:23, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Hello from Gretnagod
Greetings and good luck with your fight to restore the Death List to its once proud position of having a unique entry. Gretnagod 12:52, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Oldest people
Thank you for correction, it was my error with supercentenarian list. Greetings. Berasategui 19:10, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Regarding the 'oldest people' list: the source used is
Birthday Table Announced by Ministry of Welfare and Labor Sept. 16, 2005 The announcement calculates the age as of Sept. 30 of the current year.
22 1895/10/12 Choho Fukuhara (M, Okinawa, Japan) Choho Fukuhara (M, Okinawa, Japan), now 109 years 11 months 10 days old
27 1895/12/19 Hiromi Minakata (M, Wakayama, Japan) Hiromi Minakata (M, Wakayama, Japan), now 109 years 9 months 3 days old
Thus Choho (or Chojo) Fukuhara was born Oct 12, 1895 and was Japan's 22nd-oldest living person, as of Sept 30, 2005. Hiromi Minakata was born Dec 19, 1895 and was Japan's 27th-oldest living person, as of Sept 30, 2005.
Regarding the GRG list: This is Misplaced Pages, I don't think the lists have to be exactly the same. Note, for example, Misplaced Pages includes articles like Florence Reeves, 111, not (yet) on the GRG list. I think the GRG list uses a slightly higher standard.
In the case of Choho/Chojo Fukuhara, we were told that the oldest living Okinawan male was '110' years old in Oct 2005. As there was only one candidate, it must have been Chojo. Yet we never received official word of his turning 110. So, he's not on the GRG list. But I think for practical purposes we shouldn't short-sheet the bed just because we don't have a willing and capable Japan correspondent at the moment.
The Japan lists are updated once a year, every September, so unless we have a correspondent report from Japan the cases are 'presumed' to be living until the next year's list, when those who are not on the new list are presumed to have passed away.
Sincerely, Robert Young Senior Claims Researcher for the Gerontology Research Group and Gerontology Consultant for Guinness World Records → R Young {łtalk} 10:23, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Cat:Living People
Hi I incorrectly used the same category then ended up on a category page with only two entries... for your future info the category is "Living people" NOT "Living People" as you had used on the William Nyhan article. Garrie 22:34, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Oldest Living Actor
The title of oldest living actor refers to the oldest living actor still working.
Dante August 15, 2006
Robert Earl Jones
No. Sorry. GusF 20:13, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
recent deaths
Hi, when you wikilink people's names from Deaths in 2006, best to check it's the right person, eh? Norman Kelley is not the tenor but a journalist. Richard Dyer is not the actor/singer but the noted queer theorist. If it's already been delinked in the history, there's probably a reason for that. - W guice 02:08, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Estelle Getty
NOT dead ... as of this minute. Thank you for correcting that. When she does expire, I would be the one to verify it. MrEguy 04:19, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
your favourite movies
consider watching the Shawkshank Redemption, that should make your top 10 easily Somemoron 17:43, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
Article- Leon Davidson
CanadianPaul-
I am the grandson of Leon Davidson. His obit was published in the newspaper on January 6, 2007 for White Plains, New York. I guess no one really cared to put it up on the internet. The family has been trying to keep it low-key; none of his friends know. We just moved his wife, Doris, to a nursing home close to our house. Any other comments, put them on the discussion page of my grandfather's article, okay? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.225.107.2 (talk) 22:22, 24 January 2007 (UTC).
re: Category:Date of birth missing
Good evening. Per the discussion about privacy concerns expressed at Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons#Privacy of birthdays, date of birth should generally not be added to the biographies of living non-public or semi-public figures. So far, that policy has been interpreted fairly strictly with a pretty high bar being set for the definition of "public figures" who are assumed to have given up their rights to privacy.
By the same token, we should not be adding Category:Date of birth missing to articles unless we have made the case that the person meets the "public figures" threshold. Otherwise, we're just baiting new users into adding content even though the community has already said that we shouldn't include that particular data point. Category:Year of birth missing is okay but the exact date is often not. Thanks for your help. Rossami (talk) 00:01, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
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Discussion at Talk:List of the Oldest People
There is a discussion about whether the article should be merged with Oldest people. Squirepants101 19:21, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry Canadian Paul. I deleted your Emma Bodie Begay entry in error. (Deaths in 2007) The topic of "oldest" is ripe with confusion. For example, I don't think Ms. Begay had been listed on this page: Living national longevity recordholders Que-Can 20:11, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Otto Natzler
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Don Tuzin
Sorry, I am a former student of Don's and if I have any of his books they are in storage. I've been meaning to read Cassowary's Revenge for a while. Please feel free to add to the bio entry if you can. Mccajor 23:54, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
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Why did you undo my revision to Aden Abdullah Osman Daar?
Seemed perfectly legitimate and compliant with WP:MOS--h i s r e s e a r c h 20:16, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Response.
Nintendo's involvement stops at "allowing this game to exist on their console". It is not a part of the Nintendo project. Nintendo spent $0.00 on advertising, publishing, production, and development on this game. Their involvement would be equal to mine if it weren't for the fact that they had to approve of its existence. - A Link to the Past (talk) 18:28, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Hannah Williams (actress)
Do you have any reccomendations on how to fix "does not assert notability" for Hannah Williams (actress)? I'd have thought her stage and recording career added to the famous marriages to two of the best known people in the nation of their generation would have done so. Apparently not? Thanks for any help. Cheers, -- Infrogmation 20:25, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
World's Oldest People
Greetings,
In regards to THIS comment:
+ :I like this page, I think it could be a useful reference, but I agree that is heavily marred by speculation. If no citations are found soon, I plan on removing all unreferenced entries INCLUDING John Campbell Ross (a World's Oldest People is NOT sufficient).
Please bear in mind that:
A. I am the editor, moderator, and founder of "World's Oldest People", which has now existed for 5+ years. B. Yahoo used "World's Oldest People" for its main-page link for further information (for example, the Tomoji Tanabe story in June). It is also the #1 hit on Yahoo (coincidence? I think not).
Thus, I think this is a reputable source. That said, this entire 'living national longevity recordholders' is a speculative venture, and it is difficult balancing the need for citation with the reality that there often isn't much information available. No one at "world's oldest people" has asserted that John Campbell Ross is the 'oldest man' in Australia. However, I believe that once age 108 is reached, especially for males, the chance is at least 50% that such a claim is true; therefore, it should be accepted unless otherwise challenged.Ryoung122 03:03, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
As for others, I didn't want to ruffle feathers by removing all of those with vague citations (Christmann, Rustad, Moreira, Helldal, Rein and Gremion) but if Robert Young (or anyone else) wants to remove these entires, I certainly won't revert the edits. Ideally, each person would have a citation that flat out says that they are the country's oldest (like anyone referenced on the GRG, or the Czech cases) Canadian Paul 18:13, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Controversy!
http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Robert_Young_%28gerontologist%29
Yea or nay...
131.96.70.164 04:48, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- For you (or anyone else) watching this space, I am aware of the debate now and am waiting to make a more informed and useful opinion (hopefully before the debate closes!) Canadian Paul 06:06, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
"No Original Research"
Canadian Paul, I'm a bit surprised at the below edit:
18:23, 4 August 2007 Canadian Paul (Talk | contribs) (2,489 bytes) (Removing WP:NOR violation) (undo)
Again, this is NOT original research...the research was done and posted on a separate website. Merely referencing that is the appropriate thing to do.
Moreover, when one considers what this woman is 'famous' for...being promoted as the 'mother' of an organization. In other words, she is famous for her age. As such, what her age actually is becomes central to the article's worth. Note that the general concensus is that age 110 is the threshold where one is accorded 'supercentenarian' status. Given that it has already been claimed (by Wikipedians) that she is '110', it becomes important to let the reader know that this may not be the case. The burden of proof should be upon the claimant, and so far the evidence suggests that she is not. Note the research was done by Portuguese researcher Filipe Prista Lucas.
Also, in regards to 'sourcing': first, it should be noted that Yahoo is one of the four biggest portals in the world (along with Google, MSN, and AOL). Running a search for 'world's oldest people' turns up the below results. Note the COMPUTER...NOT ME...ranks the group #1. Like any organization, a group is what you and others make it. The group was started in 2002 mainly to be a picture gallery, but it has grown into a premier place for discussion of claims regarding the world's oldest persons.
Also try: world's oldest person, world's oldest people nursing home more... WEB RESULTS Worlds_Oldest_People : World's Oldest People ... and photographs regarding the world's oldest people (108+). Only proven cases ... The "world's oldest person" according to Guinness World Records and the ...health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Worlds_Oldest_People - 17k - Cached Oldest people - Misplaced Pages, the 💕 ... and lifespans of the world's oldest people are continually increasing due to ... World's Oldest People hosted by Yahoo! Groups. Wikinews has news related to: ... Quick Links: Official oldest living person - Official oldest living man (since 1961) - Among the oldest ever (115+) en.wikipedia.org/Oldest_people - 118k - Cached FORCES - THE EVIDENCE - World's Oldest--All Smokers The oldest people on Earth are all smokers. ... Calment, who was listed as the world's oldest human whose birth date could be ...www.forces.org/evidence/hamilton/other/oldest.htm - 20k - Cached Digg - World's Oldest People Dropping Like Flies World's Oldest People Dropping Like Flies " ... the world's oldest-known living ... "World's Oldest people dropping like flies" Dugg for the title. ...digg.com/world_news/World_s_Oldest_People_Dropping_Like_Flies - 55k - Cached Photographer's search for world's oldest people - Books - Entertainment ... says tracking down 'supercentenarians' - people at least 110 years old ... trotting search, Friedman needed a compass to find the world's oldest people. ...www.theage.com.au/articles/2006/01/02/1136050351746.html - 41k Science Museum | Your life-cycle | The world's oldest people Shirechiyo Izumi of Japan, was the world's oldest man when he died aged 120 ... the world, there have been unconfirmed reports of people living even longer. ...www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/exhibitions/lifecycle/29.asp - 8k - Cached World's oldest person dies at 116 - U.S. Life - MSNBC.com ... "Lizzie" Bolden, recognized as the world's oldest person, died early Monday, the ... that tracks the ages of the world's oldest people, lists Toro's date of birth as ...www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16157420 - 49k - Cached 1975 World's Oldest People Last Updated on November 30, 2002. World's Oldest People 1975. Age. Rank. Nation. Name ... Mito Umeta. Mar. 27, 1863. 111* 280* O. F. 2. Japan. Niwa ...www.grg.org/Adams/1975WOPeople.HTM - 11k - Cached NPR : Interviews: Mapping the Human Race's Journey The National Geographic Society, in partnership with IBM, ... People & Places. Interviews. Remembrances. Radio Expeditions. Health & Science. Your Health ...www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4597357 - 46k People's Daily Online -- Japan becomes world's oldest country: census A website by the People's Daily newspaper; China, business, world, science, ... third oldest country was Germany, where the elderly defined as people aged 65 ...english.people.com.cn/200607/02/eng20060702_279293.html - 23k - Cached
Also try: world's oldest person, world's oldest people nursing home more... 12345678910Next
I also note that you are still undecided in regards to the prior post I made on your user page ('Controversy'). Let me just say this: the situation is akin to a discussion regarding which are the two best football teams (remember the year Auburn when undefeated and was left out of the title game)? We humans can argue all day long about which team was 'better' or more deserving. However, a dispassionate consideration that turns to a computer to decide pointed to LSU as the best team. Likewise, it becomes hard to argue that I am not having a major impact on the subfield of demographic gerontology when one considers that, remove my Guinness title and my GRG title and leave me to my own devices (world's oldest people webgroup) and I still rose to the top. Many persons simply don't realize yet that I am actually a quite objective and fair individual. It was not vanity but reality that led me to create my own article, as I saw a need to link to cases such as Mary Ramsey Wood, William Coates, Charlie Smith (centenarian), etc.
Please note that with or without me, I have already created articles on other notables in the field and plan to continue to do so. That does not mean 'oversatuation'...currently we have only 5 persons listed. Expanding to an appopriate number...about 10-15...seems reasonable to me. As an historian, I see the need to lay out the 'history' of things, which is often forgotten. For example, we often hear about the 'New England Centenarian Study' today, but how many realize it was founded in 1994? Sometimes we believe that institutions have been around 'forever', but a simple search will find that they are, in fact, of recent vintage. However, they may well be on their way to becoming a venerable institution.
Finally, in the Australia dispute, my Australian correspondent (Dr. John McCormack) is currently on vacation. I do realize that naming 'John Campbell Ross' as the oldest man in Australia on Misplaced Pages is, in fact, 'original research'...by Bart Versieck. However, if you wish to be consistent, there is quite a bit of material out there that needs help. Tonight I just discovered that someone started an article on Pierre Darcourt in Feb. 2007...the article had the wrong country (France instead of Belgium) and though based on facts, remains unsourced/ unreferenced.
Sincerely, Robert Young Ryoung122 09:04, 7 August 2007 (UTC)