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For my future knowledge

How exactly do you close a nomination for deletion (in relation to this page Skip Heller -- Gudeldar 07:33, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

There's probably an easier way to do this, but I just picked an old AfD and copy and pasted from it. Pablo Talk | Contributions 15:53, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Polite notice

Please refrain from making unfounded allegations against me in the future. Mujinga 02:26, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm not making any allegations against you. I don't think that you read that very carefully. Pablo Talk | Contributions 02:30, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Hello? For some reason you wrote ... "Abureem=Mujinga=Striver". This is not true. I've been here 1.5 years, I've made nearly 2000 edits. I'm me. I have no other accounts. Stop harrassing me. Happy editing. Mujinga 02:38, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Harrassment? This is the first time we've ever encountered one another. You approached me. I wrote "Abureem=Mujinga=Striver?" Note the question mark. I have not accused you of anything. Pablo Talk | Contributions 03:02, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Warning?

Read the guys comments and contributions . He is an obvious troll who hasn't gotten blocked because it would be more trouble than its worth. 128.227.43.42 03:34, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

WP:TALK says that troll comments not pertaining to helping the page can be deleted so please remove your warning. 128.227.43.42 03:34, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

I've never encountered this particular user, so I'm not sure whether or not he/she is a troll. I'm going to go ahead and assume that the editor in question is not a troll. Regardless of alleged past trolling, the comment I restored was not an example of trolling and you should not have deleted that comment. Pablo Talk | Contributions 03:38, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

The whole thing is written sarcastically and he obviously has no respect for how Misplaced Pages works. The post is bait for anyone to try to go against him so that he can continue his whole Misplaced Pages = Olbermann propoganda. 128.227.43.42 03:41, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

I briefly skimmed his contributions and it doesn't appear that he's acting in bad faith. I'd just let it go. Pablo Talk | Contributions 03:43, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

OMG please read what he writes to other IPs. Geesh. 128.227.43.42 03:45, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, he/she probably could be a bit nicer towards IPs, but once again I suggest you let it go. If you want to complain about Haizum to someone who can actually do something (read: not me) then I suggest you go to WP:ANI. I still maintain that Haizum's comment was legitimate and that you shouldn't have removed it. Pablo Talk | Contributions 04:04, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

If you go to ANI, you're going to get blocked for 3RR'ing all over the place. I have plenty of constructive edits and comments, but I don't take kindly to rogue IP editors that don't think the rules apply to them. --Haizum μολὼν λαβέ 04:21, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Would you two please take this conflict elsewhere? Pablo Talk | Contributions 04:23, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey, I'm sorry you were even bothered with it. You'd think simply reading the rules would be enough. --Haizum μολὼν λαβέ 04:25, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Warning

Misplaced Pages guidelines dictate that you assume good faith in dealing with other editors. Please participate in a respectful and civil way, and assume that they are here to improve Misplaced Pages. Thank you. Divestment 01:56, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Do you think that I'm taking this "warning" seriously? Pablo Talk | Contributions 01:58, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Same old pattern, accusing/warning established editors of pretend violations. He should stay blocked.  MortonDevonshire  Yo  · 04:38, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I am thoroughly amused that he followed through on his threat to report me to WP:ANI--which led to him being indefinitely blocked. Pablo Talk | Contributions 05:43, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Hilarious, aint it. Travb (talk) 23:00, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Yup. Pablo Talk | Contributions 00:01, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Zeitgeist the Movie

May I just have a lowdown on what the heck is going on? And should I request protection on this? -WarthogDemon 04:28, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

The same IP keeps removing stuff from it. He's been reported to WP:AIV, so I wouldn't worry about requesting protection unless other IPs join in. Pablo Talk | Contributions 04:30, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

What IS this movie anyway? I've seen it peppered in the Recent Changes for many days now. o.O -WarthogDemon 04:31, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

It's 9/11 conspiracy nonsense. The film fails WP:NOTFILM quite obviously, but there was an influx of IPs and SPAs that kept cluttering up the AfD. Pablo Talk | Contributions 04:34, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Assume good faith and calm the heck down

I'm tired of people like you getting in my face typing messages on talk pages as though you were yelling in my face. If you looked at my edit history yo u would see that I HAVE NO INTENTION WHATSOEVER to push a POV and I am extremely offended by your comment.

I am curious as to why you have such a short fuse. What about my OPINION sets you off? — Selmo 22:08, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

First, please don't type in all caps (even if it's just a tiny bit of your message); it's rude. Second, I'm not sure why you think I have a short fuse. Third, you accused me of trying to own the article, so don't lecture me on WP:AGF. Pablo Talk | Contributions 22:20, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, you would think after many people have been giving you a hard time someone would be angry. You blew a short fuse since you decided to "fight me until I stop editing". That, by definition is intimidation. Intimidation comes from anger. I accused you of owning the article because you came onto me on the talk page of the article as though you were the boss. — Selmo 22:28, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

That's not at all what I said, straw man. Pablo Talk | Contributions 22:31, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

You have anything better to do than insult people? — Selmo 22:36, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

"Straw man" is an attack on your arguments and not you. Pablo Talk | Contributions 22:39, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

I haven't pretended to reject the 9/11 truth movement. — Selmo 22:40, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Huh? Pablo Talk | Contributions 23:01, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

That's what a straw man argument would look like in this case. — Selmo 00:41, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

The straw man argument was this: "you decided to `fight me until I stop editing'." Pablo Talk | Contributions 03:35, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Indeed. — Selmo 05:34, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't want you to stop editing, I want you to stop POV-pushing. Pablo Talk | Contributions 05:50, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Funny I wasn't. I simply objected to the source used and you come off and call me a POV Pusher, a term that is normally used to discredit anyone's views. If I said The Olympics will be hosted in Tokyo in 2028Geocities{/ref], someone removes, it, and I said "you no good POV Pusher! Your attempts to DELIBRITLY violate WP:NPOV will be defeated!" I would come off as unreasonble wouldn't I? — Selmo 06:53, 2 August 2007 (UTC) Here's another one "John Smith from NYTimes says Paris Hilton is a spoiled "brat".nytimes - editorial. Oops! We have person who breaches policy on purpose. Now, he oughta be blocked, right? Now since you still say my intention is to push a POV despite my previous comment, you are essentially calling me a liar. I feel this is a reasonable conclusion. — Selmo 06:58, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I called you a POV-pusher for wanting to add Prison Planet as a source, not for removing that other source. You're becoming incoherent, and I think it would be best if you ceased engaging me here. Pablo Talk | Contributions 15:26, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Steven Jones

Hi Pablo!

You undid my addition to Steven Jones page stating that David Griffin's book was peer reviewed.

The book in question is David Griffin's "9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out". When asked by Steven Jones whether the essays collected in the book, including his, were peer reviewed, this was David Griffin's response (email addresses have been removed to protect privacy):

On 8/1/07, David Griffin wrote: Steven,

Yes, all the essays were peer-reviewed. Most of the contributors were, in fact, asked to revise their essays on the basis of the reviews. And not all submissions were accepted.

Cordially,

David

On 7/31/07 9:44 PM, "Steven Jones" wrote:

Hello, David and Peter --

About the book holding my article, i.e., 9/11 and American Empire, Intellectuals Speak Out -- were all the essays in this particular book peer-reviewed? If so, does the book say so somewhere?

This seems to be important -- someone is asking me, and we find the peer-review issue arising again.

Thanks, Steven J

Since the authors of the book describe a peer review process and indicate that on the basis of this process most of the manuscripts had to be revised (typical for any peer reviewed publication) or ommitted, what is your basis for claiming that the author's are lying?

You may peronsally disagree with the contents of these essays, but please do not remove my accurate inclusion describing this book as peer-reviewed unless you can provide me convincing evidence that David Griffin included Steven Jones' essay (and the other essays in the book) without asking anyone to review them. Please call or contact me if you would like to discuss this further.

Thank you!

Respectfully,

Mark Patterson 434-326-0180 Mark@MarkCentury.com

Where did you get these e-mails? Pablo Talk | Contributions 22:24, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Elonka 2

Thank you for your support in my Request for Adminship. Unfortunately the nomination did not succeed, but please rest assured that I am still in full support of the Misplaced Pages project, and I'll try again in a few months! If you ever have any questions or suggestions for me, please don't hesitate to contact me. Best wishes, --Elonka 03:48, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. Pablo Talk | Contributions 06:40, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

RFA for Haemo

When you create Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Haemo, please copy the text of User:Shalom/Drafts and archives/Nomination for Haemo as my nomination. (Link to the original page in the edit summary so that people know it's from me.) Thank you. Shalom 12:35, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

WPOR Collaboration of the Week

Greetings WPOR member, we are starting a weekly collaboration project where we will announce two articles that are currently stubs that we hope to work together to improve. No pressure to help, but if you would like to, just stop by one of the articles and see if you can find information to expand the article with, copy edit what is there, help with formatting, or add some images. This week’s articles are: Alis volat propriis and Fusitriton oregonensis. Aboutmovies 22:31, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Accepted

Okay-dokey; I've accepted the nomination. Wish me luck! --Haemo 06:07, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

2nd warning for your NPA

Please do not attack other editors. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. Link and Link Do not remove this warning, it is frowned on to do that. Bmedley Sutler 08:04, 15 August 2007 (UTC)